Just watched a Clint Eastwood movie on Yorksihre, advert came on from virgin saying they have stopped charging extre for HDThat's what I'm waiting for as well, already pay far too much for my telly >:(
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/websales/service.do?id=1
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When are Sky Going to STOP charging us to watch HD[/size]
they will have to at some point, however HD costs a lot more to broadcast. Hence BBC never did a mirrored HD BBC 1 unlike Sky.
Quotethey will have to at some point, however HD costs a lot more to broadcast. Hence BBC never did a mirrored HD BBC 1 unlike Sky.
Here we go, here come the excusses. ::)
My box is a year old next month, 1st thing I am foing is dropping the HD bit and save myself just short of a tenner a month.
They allways say they will mirror what virgin do, but only if they have to. Why dont they become leaders instead of followers. If anyone ever starts a new service that works dont they realise they would lose most of us bacause it seems all of those that dont work for shy are very unhappy with it.
Most of the buffy, angel, lie to me type programs are only 45 mins, so that means we put up with 25% of the hour we pay for watching advertising that we really are not interested in. ITV, Channel 4 and 5 do the same but we dont have to pay for it.
I'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
QuoteQuotethey will have to at some point, however HD costs a lot more to broadcast. Hence BBC never did a mirrored HD BBC 1 unlike Sky.
Here we go, here come the excusses. ::)
My box is a year old next month, 1st thing I am foing is dropping the HD bit and save myself just short of a tenner a month.
They allways say they will mirror what virgin do, but only if they have to. Why dont they become leaders instead of followers. If anyone ever starts a new service that works dont they realise they would lose most of us bacause it seems all of those that dont work for shy are very unhappy with it.
Most of the buffy, angel, lie to me type programs are only 45 mins, so that means we put up with 25% of the hour we pay for watching advertising that we really are not interested in. ITV, Channel 4 and 5 do the same but we dont have to pay for it.
All those shows require rights to broadcast which are not cheap, the cost millions to buy, costs have to be recouped.
Thats fine for other channels but as Sky has their own broadcast tech and rented satellites, those costs have to be factored in to.
Adverts Pay for shows, Subscription pays for tech, broadcast and development.
Sky have to pay for amount of data broadcast to and from sats, HD requires a lot more bandwidth. Virgin have their own cable tech, so its much cheaper for them to send out HD.
I'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
Cant remember the name before Virgin but they put in enough installations fo make a profit and cover thier outlay and then pulled the plug.
I cant compare the 2 side by side as I dont have access to virgin.
Sky are well on thier way to making profits of £1B a year. and thats proffit, after all over heads and delvelopement for the future have been paid for.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
I dont disagree with your reply, but I also feel we as custoners are exploited. If sky is growing as fast as they reckon, and profits keep going up, then why not benifit thier customers. Sky movies is split so they make 2 extra charges rather than just one as it used to be.
If I had the choice of Virgin or Sky, then I would dump Sky ASAP.
Used to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
Used to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
QuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
[edit]QuoteCant remember the name before Virgin but they put in enough installations fo make a profit and cover thier outlay and then pulled the plug.
I cant compare the 2 side by side as I dont have access to virgin.
Sky are well on thier way to making profits of £1B a year. and thats proffit, after all over heads and delvelopement for the future have been paid for.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
I dont disagree with your reply, but I also feel we as custoners are exploited. If sky is growing as fast as they reckon, and profits keep going up, then why not benifit thier customers. Sky movies is split so they make 2 extra charges rather than just one as it used to be.
If I had the choice of Virgin or Sky, then I would dump Sky ASAP.
I can sympathise with you Mr S as the availability of a fast optical network to deliver television services certainly is appealing - but as I'm presently living in the ass-end of nowhere, the likihood of getting such a service is limited for now and the forseeable future.
Sky provide the service and I'm happy to pay for it as there's no real alternative.
QuoteQuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
One option is iPhone TV (if you have one) at £6 a month its a bargin if you don't have Sky Sports
QuoteQuoteQuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
One option is iPhone TV (if you have one) at £6 a month its a bargin if you don't have Sky Sports
Will it work on my 46" TV....... ::)
PS Am not happy about being exploited as a motorist either, but this thread is not about motoeing and therefore an unfair comparison.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
One option is iPhone TV (if you have one) at £6 a month its a bargin if you don't have Sky Sports
Will it work on my 46" TV....... ::)
PS Am not happy about being exploited as a motorist either, but this thread is not about motoeing and therefore an unfair comparison.
Standard definition TV is 640 X 480, iPhone is only fraction under this :)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
One option is iPhone TV (if you have one) at £6 a month its a bargin if you don't have Sky Sports
Will it work on my 46" TV....... ::)
PS Am not happy about being exploited as a motorist either, but this thread is not about motoeing and therefore an unfair comparison.
Standard definition TV is 640 X 480, iPhone is only fraction under this :)
So the answer is no as I mentioned I did not have a standard TV.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
One option is iPhone TV (if you have one) at £6 a month its a bargin if you don't have Sky Sports
Will it work on my 46" TV....... ::)
PS Am not happy about being exploited as a motorist either, but this thread is not about motoeing and therefore an unfair comparison.
Standard definition TV is 640 X 480, iPhone is only fraction under this :)
So the answer is no as I mentioned I did not have a standard TV.
It will work, but it won't be HD. But it will cost £6 rather than £10 + sports
Phone Sky and tell them you want to cancel and that you are going to Vigin due to their free HD. I bet you get a deal from Sky ;)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteUsed to be NTL & Telewest, they merged, and then bought by Branson.QuoteI'm no champion for Sky (or Digger) but they seem to be a progressive company exploiting the readily useable extent of up to date technology - their investment in the technology required to do this costs money, so the investment has to be recouped in one way or another.
This does make me laugh, the government can exploit motorists in tax, so can company with their employee's
"as customers we are exploited" - You don't have to be with them, if you don't want the content, then go freeview, if you do want the choice, movies on demand and such, shows you cannot get on freeview then you have to pay for them!
I compare it to Tesco, no one forces people to shop there, people have a choice, they are then blamed for exploiting customers for profit ::)
You said it in one Tunnie.
I dont have the choice, so I have to pay for it if I want it.I dont have access to virgin and freeview does not give the choice either. in all honesty, if I got what I wanted I would have to pay another subscription to sky sports, but all I want to watch is wrestling (WWE) so I go without.
I refuse to shop at tescos, ASDA sell sell everything I need and deliverit to my door far cheaper than jumping in the Mig and fetching it myself.
One option is iPhone TV (if you have one) at £6 a month its a bargin if you don't have Sky Sports
Will it work on my 46" TV....... ::)
PS Am not happy about being exploited as a motorist either, but this thread is not about motoeing and therefore an unfair comparison.
Standard definition TV is 640 X 480, iPhone is only fraction under this :)
so whats 2560 x 1080 classed as.
720x576 is SDAssuming 576p, the actual resolution is 704x576.
HD starts at 1280x720That is DVD quality, and there are several framerates to take in to consideration. Official HD starts at 1920x1080i