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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Peachy on 20 May 2010, 13:26:37
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What a Topsy Turvy world in which we live......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10130274.stm
When will Senior Judges and High Court Judges learn to Agree.
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I'm made up. If people have a legitimate grievance, and want to withdraw their labour, so be it.
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Legal again but still doomed to failure. The company will probably either beat Unite once and for all or go bust trying. Which is exactly what it should do imo. :-/
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For those of us who never fly, this is good sport. :y ;D
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BA is an awful company, just read Richard Brandsons Autobiography about their tactics when Virgin Atlantic was formed.
They deserve to go bust!
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Personal likes or dislikes shouldn't come into it, but I can't stand Willie Walsh, so I hope he loses his job.
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I read that book, a very interesting read. To be fair to BA though, it is run by a completely different set of people these days though. I have a fair bit of respect for Willie Walsh tbh. ;)
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I read that book, a very interesting read. To be fair to BA though, it is run by a completely different set of people these days though. I have a fair bit of respect for Willie Walsh tbh. ;)
He's Irish!! Obviously knows nowt. ::)
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He was the only one with the 'dangle berries' to jump in a plane and fly around the UK to prove that the elf,n sayftee wimps were talking crap about the volcanic ash. I think he also knows its pointless trying to talk to those two idiots who run unite. They have a political agenda which belongs in the 7o,s and arent worth wasting time on imo. ;) :P
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He was the only one stupid enough to jump in a plane and fly around the UK to prove that the elf,n sayftee wimps were talking crap about the volcanic ash. I think he also knows its pointless trying to talk to those two idiots who run unite. They have a political agenda which belongs in the 7o,s and arent worth wasting time on imo. ;) :P
He's Irish :y
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break orft. :P :P :P
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He was the only one stupid enough to jump in a plane and fly around the UK to prove that the elf,n sayftee wimps were talking crap about the volcanic ash. I think he also knows its pointless trying to talk to those two idiots who run unite. They have a political agenda which belongs in the 7o,s and arent worth wasting time on imo. ;) :P
He's Irish :y
So says STM O'123 ;) ;D ;D
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Perhaps when they are all unemployed they will be happy
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if people want to strike they have the right then go for it, but, when 1000s are buggered by the ash , then they strike, they dont get much confidence, they could have postponed it a while, and said, right so as to help the passengers, we will strike later in the year, but no.
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if people want to strike they have the right then go for it, but, when 1000s are buggered by the ash , then they strike, they dont get much confidence, they could have postponed it a while, and said, right so as to help the passengers, we will strike later in the year, but no.
Yeah. They should have gone on strike just overnight, when there weren't any flights. That would get them what they wanted.
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glad the appeal courts saw sense - it was a ludicrous and immoral decision in the first place, how dare a judge take away the basic right to withdraw labour - thats what made me mad :o
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glad the appeal courts saw sense - it was a ludicrous and immoral decision in the first place, how dare a judge take away the basic right to withdraw labour - thats what made me mad :o
Oh God, I'm not agreeing with you, am I? :(
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those aren't pillows!!!!!!!! ;D ;D :o
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Anyone who's ever flown BA will probably testify that they are simply, the best.
If people wanna "withdraw their labour" then that's up to them, but let's see who's laffing at the judge's decision when they all get fired as BA try to claw some money back................which they need to.
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Anyone who's ever flown BA will probably testify that they are simply, the best.
If people wanna "withdraw their labour" then that's up to them, but let's see who's laffing at the judge's decision when they all get fired as BA try to claw some money back................which they need to.
i've flown BA a few times, they were good but I know friends who fly regularly say they've definitely gone downhill since walsh took over - i wouldnt assume every passenger backs the management 8-)
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BA are haemoraging customers.
This strike will just hasten their demise and quicken the workers trip to the dole office.
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BA are haemoraging customers.
This strike will just hasten their demise and quicken the workers trip to the dole office.
Yes, exactly! :'( :'( :(
BA will go the same way as the other great names. With airlines, remember PAN-AM and TWA? No firm is too big for the fall. ::) ::)
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glad the appeal courts saw sense - it was a ludicrous and immoral decision in the first place, how dare a judge take away the basic right to withdraw labour - thats what made me mad :o
He didn't take away the right to strike.
He merely ruled that, in his legal opinion, Unite had not fulfilled their obligations correctly under the law. OK, so today, Appeal Judges ruled 2-1 that they DID fulfill their obligations. It was a legal ruling over a technicality.
Both employer and employee have the right to challenge each others' actions with regard to the law.
What has this to do with the right to strike?
Absolutely nothing. ::) ::)
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glad the appeal courts saw sense - it was a ludicrous and immoral decision in the first place, how dare a judge take away the basic right to withdraw labour - thats what made me mad :o
He didn't take away the right to strike.
He merely ruled that, in his legal opinion, Unite had not fulfilled their obligations correctly under the law. OK, so today, Appeal Judges ruled 2-1 that they DID fulfill their obligations. It was a legal ruling over a technicality.
Both employer and employee have the right to challenge each others' actions with regard to the law.
What has this to do with the right to strike?
Absolutely nothing. ::) ::)
if the ruling had been upheld it would have, in effect, made it practically impossible for a legal strike to ever have been called again :o
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glad the appeal courts saw sense - it was a ludicrous and immoral decision in the first place, how dare a judge take away the basic right to withdraw labour - thats what made me mad :o
He didn't take away the right to strike.
He merely ruled that, in his legal opinion, Unite had not fulfilled their obligations correctly under the law. OK, so today, Appeal Judges ruled 2-1 that they DID fulfill their obligations. It was a legal ruling over a technicality.
Both employer and employee have the right to challenge each others' actions with regard to the law.
What has this to do with the right to strike?
Absolutely nothing. ::) ::)
if the ruling had been upheld it would have, in effect, made it practically impossible for a legal strike to ever have been called again :o
Not at all. You've been listening to Woodley too much.
BA had argued in court that Unite failed to follow the correct procedures in notifying its members of the result of the ballot.
So, in the event of a ballot, a union writes to each one of its members to advise them of the result. Job done.
How difficult would that be? ::) ::)
Hardly impractical.
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Getting away from the legal side, there seems to be some really nice people amongst the strikers:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/815230/Union-militants-waged-sinister-campaign-of-abuse-and-threats-against-British-Airways-cabin-crew.html
:o ::) ::) ::)
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glad the appeal courts saw sense - it was a ludicrous and immoral decision in the first place, how dare a judge take away the basic right to withdraw labour - thats what made me mad :o
He didn't take away the right to strike.
He merely ruled that, in his legal opinion, Unite had not fulfilled their obligations correctly under the law. OK, so today, Appeal Judges ruled 2-1 that they DID fulfill their obligations. It was a legal ruling over a technicality.
Both employer and employee have the right to challenge each others' actions with regard to the law.
What has this to do with the right to strike?
Absolutely nothing. ::) ::)
if the ruling had been upheld it would have, in effect, made it practically impossible for a legal strike to ever have been called again :o
Not at all. You've been listening to Woodley too much.
BA had argued in court that Unite failed to follow the correct procedures in notifying its members of the result of the ballot.
So, in the event of a ballot, a union writes to each one of its members to advise them of the result. Job done.
How difficult would that be? ::) ::)
Hardly impractical.
luckily the appeal courts rule and not your good self Nickbat :y
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
So making personal threats and intimidating fellow staff are all legitimate "rights of the workers"? ::) ::)
I've been reading quite a few comments from staff at BA and the vast majority are against the antics of BASSA/Unite.
Still, tomorrow, BA will publish it's annual report. Maybe, with a loss of c. £600m predicted, it will force the militants to face reality. But, then, I doubt it. ::)
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
So making personal threats and intimidating fellow staff are all legitimate "rights of the workers"? ::) ::)
I've been reading quite a few comments from staff at BA and the vast majority are against the antics of BASSA/Unite.
Still, tomorrow, BA will publish it's annual report. Maybe, with a loss of c. £600m predicted, it will force the militants to face reality. But, then, I doubt it. ::)
and yet.....i read similar reports of management bullying and intimidation in other, less pliable, organs ::)
BA spend enough on planting spin in a friendly press, they really don't need you defending them, i'm sure its appreciated tho....fingers crossed eh? :y
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
So making personal threats and intimidating fellow staff are all legitimate "rights of the workers"? ::) ::)
I've been reading quite a few comments from staff at BA and the vast majority are against the antics of BASSA/Unite.
Still, tomorrow, BA will publish it's annual report. Maybe, with a loss of c. £600m predicted, it will force the militants to face reality. But, then, I doubt it. ::)
and yet.....i read similar reports of management bullying and intimidation in other, less pliable, organs ::)
BA spend enough on planting spin in a friendly press, they really don't need you defending them, i'm sure its appreciated tho....fingers crossed eh? :y
Links?
Or just hearsay? ::)
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
So making personal threats and intimidating fellow staff are all legitimate "rights of the workers"? ::) ::)
I've been reading quite a few comments from staff at BA and the vast majority are against the antics of BASSA/Unite.
Still, tomorrow, BA will publish it's annual report. Maybe, with a loss of c. £600m predicted, it will force the militants to face reality. But, then, I doubt it. ::)
Jesus Christ - Nick did you take the bait or what :o :o :o
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
So making personal threats and intimidating fellow staff are all legitimate "rights of the workers"? ::) ::)
I've been reading quite a few comments from staff at BA and the vast majority are against the antics of BASSA/Unite.
Still, tomorrow, BA will publish it's annual report. Maybe, with a loss of c. £600m predicted, it will force the militants to face reality. But, then, I doubt it. ::)
Jesus Christ - Nick did you take the bait or what :o :o :o
Always a bit of fun playing with Citizen Smith Banjax, especially when there's not much on TV! ;) ;D ;D
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BA has just announced annual losses of £535 million. Its shares have dropped 24% in two months. Its staff are the highest paid in the industry, yet they want to go on strike. Which planet are these people living on ? :o >:(
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Can you imagine yourself sitting around a table with Willie Walsh discussing working conditions.
The mans mind is set on destroying the union,and he will be the man who will be responsible for the demise of BA.
Alfie.
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BA has just announced annual losses of £535 million. Its shares have dropped 24% in two months. Its staff are the highest paid in the industry, yet they want to go on strike. Which planet are these people living on ? :o >:(
As far as I can tell, most of the issues have been resolved, it's just that Oor Wullie won't reinstate the travel perks that were in place before the strike.
In other words, he is severely penalising people for legitimately taking union-backed industrial action. Silly old Wullie, he'll break his company.
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the News of the World is biased against the rights of workers? :o :o :o
whatever next? an examination of the popes religion? ;D ::)
So making personal threats and intimidating fellow staff are all legitimate "rights of the workers"? ::) ::)
I've been reading quite a few comments from staff at BA and the vast majority are against the antics of BASSA/Unite.
Still, tomorrow, BA will publish it's annual report. Maybe, with a loss of c. £600m predicted, it will force the militants to face reality. But, then, I doubt it. ::)
Jesus Christ - Nick did you take the bait or what :o :o :o
Always a bit of fun playing with Citizen Smith Banjax, especially when there's not much on TV! ;) ;D ;D
precisely - altho i've never been to Tooting :y ;D
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Does this not show that this dispute is more about politics than a genuine grievance between employer and employee?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10140911.stm
:o :o ::) ::) ::)