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Title: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 09:50:19
I have seen some lovely looking caravans down here which I am going to see into when I get home.
The ones that have taken my eye are
a Bailey Senator Wyoming and an Elddis Crusader Sandstorm.
Do any of you caravaners know anything about them?
The Bailey I have seen the owner used to tow it with an Omega Estate no problem he says... It does look a big i thought although would need to check the weights out.


 


Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Peachy on 24 May 2010, 09:57:21
Here you go VERY NICE DAZ

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Twin-axle-BAILEY-SENATOR-WYOMING-Caravan-2008-Fixed-Bed-/110526211850?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Campers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item19bbe0270a

And the Elddis Crusader Superstorm.. Could not find a Sandstorm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2006-ELDDIS-CRUSADER-SUPERSTORM-6-BERTH-CARAVAN-/290437376501?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Campers_Caravans_Motorhomes&hash=item439f6aa9f5

Off to do some screaming at underlings be back later, much later.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: hoofing it on 24 May 2010, 10:00:56
A workmate sayed to me once when buying a van when you go in it if it smells foosted/musky walk away.
and make sure it has documents(log book) as vans from 1992 have a chip in them somewhere also the usual check chassis no matches window etching :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 10:02:41
I can't open those links with my phone Di but thanks anyway. Think you might be right about it being a Superstorm too ....
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 May 2010, 10:04:36
Just let me know when your leaving Massive for the lakes meet so I can set off before you ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 May 2010, 10:08:13
How much? :o

Have recently bought a very nice, spacious piece of canvas holiday accommodation for about 1/50th that money.

The MV6 can still be driven as it deserves with it sitting in the boot and I don't end up with a large tupperware box to store somewhere for the 50 weeks of the year when I'm not on holiday. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 10:10:07
We have been looking for a site that we would love to keep returning too and this is one of them. But also we like Anglesey plus that is closer if you wanted to go at the weekend too but have not found a site there yet which I would keep returning too.
Does anyone recommend a site in Anglesey?

Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 10:10:21
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How much? :o

Have recently bought a very nice, spacious piece of canvas holiday accommodation for about 1/50th that money.

The MV6 can still be driven as it deserves with it sitting in the boot and I don't end up with a large tupperware box to store somewhere for the 50 weeks of the year when I'm not on holiday. ;)

Kevin
And there is *STILL* more room in my tent, even with Dundee's car parked in it :o
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 10:16:39
No one will get stuck behind me infact I have overtaken more cars than you can imagine towing a caravan.
Kev I also have a tent which I will also be bringing to the Lakes which takes all the room of an estate and more.... But you still can't get betond the fact that a caravan has more luxuries than any tent.
Just to add to that, I will also be keeping my tent plus hopefylly be leaving my future caravan at a site I eventually find that we want to return too. X x x  x




Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 10:20:04
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How much? :o

Have recently bought a very nice, spacious piece of canvas holiday accommodation for about 1/50th that money.

The MV6 can still be driven as it deserves with it sitting in the boot and I don't end up with a large tupperware box to store somewhere for the 50 weeks of the year when I'm not on holiday. ;)

Kevin
And there is *STILL* more room in my tent, even with Dundee's car parked in it :o

And you talk out of your ring peace lmao there is no way you would have more room, for start you have the biggest airbed I have seen lol
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 10:21:42
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No one will get stuck behind me infact I have overtaken more cars than you can imagine towing a caravan.
Kev I also have a tent which I will also be bringing to the Lakes which takes all the room of an estate and more.... But you still can't get betond the fact that a caravan has more luxuries than any tent.
Just to add to that, I will also be keeping my tent plus hopefylly be leaving my future caravan at a site I eventually find that we want to return too. X x x  x

But £13k is a lot of years in a hotel room, which has even more luxuries, and doesn't get in the way of traffic ;)
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 10:27:39
Go for it Daz! You can laugh from the warm & dry of your caravan at all those in tents when they're ankle deep in water. We've used our 'van when there was 4" or 5" of snow on the ground, & still nice & warm  :y  :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: YZ250 on 24 May 2010, 10:32:21
The handbook for my 2006 Bailey Senator shows the Wyoming at:
Internal Length 6.4m
Shipping Length 7.89m
Maximum Technically Permissable Laden Mass 1714kg
Mass in running order 1454kg

Obviously this would vary very slightly depending on model year.

When I bought mine new in 2006 the dealer did a Towsafe check (compatability between car and caravan) and my 3.2 Elite Estate came out as an OK match. It tows well and the car averages 17mpg with general driving conditions. Don't do much more without the van on the back. :'(

Hope this helps.

Regards
Alan
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 10:32:58
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No one will get stuck behind me infact I have overtaken more cars than you can imagine towing a caravan.
Kev I also have a tent which I will also be bringing to the Lakes which takes all the room of an estate and more.... But you still can't get betond the fact that a caravan has more luxuries than any tent.
Just to add to that, I will also be keeping my tent plus hopefylly be leaving my future caravan at a site I eventually find that we want to return too. X x x  x

But £13k is a lot of years in a hotel room, which has even more luxuries, and doesn't get in the way of traffic ;)

I agree that it is a lot of money, but, if I can find a site that i like, we or at least the kids and Mrs Loo-knee will go the whole of the school holidays to it.
Seems worth it to me anyway 



Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: MickAP on 24 May 2010, 10:40:15
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I have seen some lovely looking caravans down here which I am going to see into when I get home.
The ones that have taken my eye are
a Bailey Senator Wyoming and an Elddis Crusader Sandstorm.
Do any of you caravaners know anything about them?
The Bailey I have seen the owner used to tow it with an Omega Estate no problem he says... It does look a big i thought although would need to check the weights out.


Got one here for sale Daz, an Abbey Vogue (2007), fixed bed jobbie, single axle. My Miggy TD estate tows it with ease.

(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp18/Abbeyman/rick/IMG_1231.jpg)


Will be selling it shortly (beginning of June) and will include all the gear with it. It's got one of those motor movers on it as well :y.

Mick ;)

Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: tunnie on 24 May 2010, 11:27:27
the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 24 May 2010, 11:32:41
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it.  ::)
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 11:32:59
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.
Not everyone is you. Some people like vans (because they are pikeys), some like tents, some won't do any form of camping because they are incapable or are toffs.

Mrs TB's folks, for eg, use their pikey wagon for 10-12 weeks of the year.  Therefore it works for them.  They are a bit long in the tooth to use a tent (plus he cannot be away from his Sky TV for more than a few hours), and hotel costs would be prohibitive.  They have no real ongoing costs to consider - occasional tyre once in a blue moon, maybe a battery (though they always go places with hookups).
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Sixstring on 24 May 2010, 11:49:56
My pikey hook is generally only used for trailers, but.....might buy a pikey wagon this year if I can persuade SWMBO its a good idea (some hope, but I'll try.....) had tents for years, and bloody good fun, but no fun to pack up after a couple of days of rain, or even packing down in the rain........
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 11:55:04
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had tents for years, and bloody good fun

Agree 100%, we love camping.....


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but no fun to pack up after a couple of days of rain, or even packing down in the rain........

Now thats not the British Stiff Upper Lip attitude, is it  >:(


:P ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 11:57:25
Oh Tunnie Lad, I must say I am looking forward to see you backpedal and squirm out of this one now your Puppet Master has really said in so many words that "Your Wrong" lmfao x x x x 
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Sixstring on 24 May 2010, 11:58:39
What? smile and wave bye to everybody puling out of the pitches with their nice dry caravans, whilst rain is running down your collar as you TRY to fold a dripping wet 9 man canvas tent into a bag through gritted teeth???

MMm........not quite stiff upper lip situation IIRC!!!
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 12:04:03
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Oh Tunnie Lad, I must say I am looking forward to see you backpedal and squirm out of this one now your Puppet Master has really said in so many words that "Your Wrong" lmfao x x x x 
Technically, he did say that caravans don't add up for him.  Which I guess is fair comment.  They don't add up for me either (though I have access to Mrs TB's parents one for free anyway) for similar reasons.

DLK - if its always at one site, what about a static?  Much nicer/spacious/warmer/comfortable imho, not sure on costs (guess you have service charges all year round), or if you like the 'roughing it' element of camping/caravanning
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 12:12:23
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What? smile and wave bye to everybody puling out of the pitches with their nice dry caravans, whilst rain is running down your collar as you TRY to fold a dripping wet 9 man canvas tent into a bag through gritted teeth???

MMm........not quite stiff upper lip situation IIRC!!!
Now come on, thats not the spirit! ;D ;D


We've always been generally lucky with weather when camping - rarely had to pack up a wet tent.  Besides, to make a pikey wagon usable, you need to bolt a bloody great tent to the side, which would also need to come down.

To be honest, currently, I prefer a tent, whatever the weather within reason. Admittedly a big tent, and she likes all the bits to go with it. I agree under canvas (well, nylon nowadays) in the hot weather, it gets HOT, and colder in cold weather.  For me, thats all part of the experience (up to a point, which is why I took a pikey van to the first ever OOF meet, as it was BLOODY COLD).
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: tunnie on 24 May 2010, 12:14:17
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it.  ::)

Motorbike, snowboarding, holidays to all over the states & europe, Japan in planning... sadly i personally cannot justify £10k on a plastic box!
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 12:17:03
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it.  ::)

Motorbike, snowboarding, holidays to all over the states & europe, Japan in planning... sadly i personally cannot justify £10k on a plastic box!
But rarely to OOF meets :P
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 12:21:16
A static was our first thought but have you seen the price of them on a site you like? Very expensive and would be cheaper by half if not more to buy a touring caravan and leave that at the site of choice. We are actually kicking ourselves as we did have a caravan an older one yes but was exactly what we needed but i hated towing it, so sold it not even considering putting onto a site...... We live and learn


Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: tunnie on 24 May 2010, 12:22:22
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it.  ::)

Motorbike, snowboarding, holidays to all over the states & europe, Japan in planning... sadly i personally cannot justify £10k on a plastic box!
But rarely to OOF meets :P

York, Telford & first lakes meet  :P
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 12:26:28
Think Jammie had to much Stella Tunnie as I saw you there ...... He is also getting to that forgetful age lmao
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: tunnie on 24 May 2010, 12:30:20
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Think Jammie had to much Stella Tunnie as I saw you there ...... He is also getting to that forgetful age lmao

Old age does that  ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Sixstring on 24 May 2010, 12:31:33
Hey! DAZ, you sad git....get off the forum and head over to Starcross and go on a nice train ride!
You know you want to.........................
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 May 2010, 12:59:50
Well the Mrs' caravan gets towed down to a very quiet site just above Newquay in the Easter break and stays there until October. The whole family get to use it so the rent of the space becomes chopped up into much smaller chunks. Fortunately it is stored for free at a family members farm out of season.

Don't get the electric hookup costs as we use a leisure battery (We don't go on holiday to watch the TV!) for the lights, electric start for the water heater etc and water pump. The site has a battery charger that's free to use on the rare occasion it needs recharging.

When you have no children it's easy to travel around the world and stay in hotels or take the tent, fair play you should take advantage of the situation! With children I find my budget has to be a little more closely monitored these days!!!!
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 14:53:05
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Hey! DAZ, you sad git....get off the forum and head over to Starcross and go on a nice train ride!
You know you want to.........................

I am at Cofton so literally up the road from Starcross. We went to the Ship yesterday for something to eat where I sampled Yellow Hammer and Tribute Beers which made me feel very good indeed lmao.......
If the weather goes off a bit I may try the railway but really aint my thing Yet lol



 



Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 14:57:27
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Well the Mrs' caravan gets towed down to a very quiet site just above Newquay in the Easter break and stays there until October. The whole family get to use it so the rent of the space becomes chopped up into much smaller chunks. Fortunately it is stored for free at a family members farm out of season.

Don't get the electric hookup costs as we use a leisure battery (We don't go on holiday to watch the TV!) for the lights, electric start for the water heater etc and water pump. The site has a battery charger that's free to use on the rare occasion it needs recharging.

When you have no children it's easy to travel around the world and stay in hotels or take the tent, fair play you should take advantage of the situation! With children I find my budget has to be a little more closely monitored these days!!!!
I think you have hit the nail on the head..... Children do make a difference.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Sixstring on 24 May 2010, 14:58:07
The Ship.......Is jerry still there?

Yellow hammer......yummy!

Glad you are having a good time, see ya on the return trip!!

Mike.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Seth on 24 May 2010, 15:13:12
Go for it Daz - you know it makes sense! :y

From a legal viewpoint, I'm pretty sure that any twin-axle 'van is too heavy for an Omega though.
The Maximum Totally Permitted Laden Mass (MTPLM), must not exceed 85% of the towing vehicle's unladen weight.
Entwood's 'well genned-up' on this very point, and can probably confirm further.
 ;)
Our single-axle 5-berth Bailey Ranger 500/5 is just within the Miggy's LEGAL capability.
Our preferred Bailey Pageant Auvergne model is a few kilos over that limit.
 :y
And dampness - the achilles heel of touring 'vans .....
It may be evident without any odours present - I know mate, been there and got the T-shirt!
Got a damp meter here if you want this checked-out.
 ;)
Oh, and siting it.
It's a 'seasonal pitch' that you'll be wanting!
 :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Sixstring on 24 May 2010, 15:17:11
Byron...
Isn't that different weights on an estate...i.e 85% of an estates weight means Bailey pageant auvergne is (just) ok??

Think Daz wants to tow it with an estate. (could be wrong???)
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Seth on 24 May 2010, 15:24:34
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Byron...
Isn't that different weights on an estate...i.e 85% of an estates weight means Bailey pageant auvergne is (just) ok??

Think Daz wants to tow it with an estate. (could be wrong???)
Aye, the Estates are indeed different weights.
Their Maximum Authorised Mass (MAM) as deemed by Vx; meant that the Auvergne was/is a tad too heavy due to it's MTPLM.

There are also the associated insurance implications too.
Don't want to put a 'dampener' on things, you understand - I just like things to be legal and safe.
 :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 24 May 2010, 17:21:51
As far i knew the 85% weight your talking about was something to do with the Caravan Club or something like that as a guide. I was told at a caravan dealer we went to said that you can tow the same weight  caravan as it has its own breaking system.
What puzzled me was when we had Range Rovers which dont weigh that much more than an estate, you could tow a 3.5 tonne breaked trailer! Is a caravan not a breaked trailer?
 

Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: sexydaz on 24 May 2010, 17:30:40
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it.  ::)
pmsl...he can put a price on goin for turd(well the average person uses 4 sheets per wipe but i find that cutting it down to three measured up over the whole roll you can have 7.8 more dumps per roll and save 13.9 pence) ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 May 2010, 17:45:28
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the sums don't add up for my for Caravans.

Huge investment in the van , £14k!? what.the? + service & maintenance costs + storage + insurance + heavy fuel consumption towing + pitch fee's + electric once your there, not forgetting depreciation of the van as well. Not to mention they are planet killing plastic tin boxes which block up the roads! /rant

The service costs, storage and extra fuel used will get you a lot of hotel rooms!

I like camping, just chuck tent in the boot and off you go, do quite a few blasts to Europe. Usual motorway cruise speeds, good fuel usage, and its cheap as chips for a tent pitch.

Tunnie do you ever have any fun without evaluating the finnacial implications to it.  ::)
pmsl...he can put a price on goin for turd(well the average person uses 4 sheets per wipe but i find that cutting it down to three measured up over the whole roll you can have 7.8 more dumps per roll and save 13.9 pence) ;D

More like 20 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: tunnie on 24 May 2010, 17:50:42
how do you think i managed to save 30k in less than 3 years?  ;)
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 18:19:06
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The Maximum Totally Permitted Laden Mass (MTPLM), must not exceed 85% of the towing vehicle's unladen weight.  ......

As daz quite rightly says, 85% is a Caravan Club GUIDE for inexperienced tow-ers  :y  :y You can to weight fro weight if you want, I really don't know if the law says yu can tow heavier, but you just need to be aware that you've to able to stop it. You don't want the tail wagging the dog.  :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: sexydaz on 24 May 2010, 18:42:48
my personal oppinion is stay away from baileys they have quite a few damp issues and cracked back panels and i always find them basic,the materials they use are chep and flimsy..elddis not that long ago had an issue with build quality and it was only if the dealer could be bothered did they reach the customer ok,but in the last 2 to 3 years i think they have pulled their act together and the vans leave the factory a lot better so if yer go down the elddis route you want a newish one and baileys you want an older one,theres some big old lunars out there called deltas which if theyre dry are a good big light van..and i would stay away from foreign vans as there hard to move on,dealers dont like adrias,dethleffs and so on if you see a nice big van thats cheap and too good to be true(it is)its somat nobody wants and you would struggle to sell it on or its nicked or damp as chuff,inj the trade swifts have the nick name soggy swift..if you ever see owt yer fancy let me know and il look the price up and if any issues :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: sexydaz on 24 May 2010, 18:54:20
although if i could afford i would buy a coachman and i love the lay out in this amara 570/6
http://www.coachman.co.uk/amara-range/interior

Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Seth on 24 May 2010, 19:02:01
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my personal oppinion is stay away from baileys they have quite a few damp issues and cracked back panels and i always find them basic,the materials they use are chep and flimsy..elddis not that long ago had an issue with build quality and it was only if the dealer could be bothered did they reach the customer ok,but in the last 2 to 3 years i think they have pulled their act together and the vans leave the factory a lot better so if yer go down the elddis route you want a newish one and baileys you want an older one,theres some big old lunars out there called deltas which if theyre dry are a good big light van..and i would stay away from foreign vans as there hard to move on,dealers dont like adrias,dethleffs and so on if you see a nice big van thats cheap and too good to be true(it is)its somat nobody wants and you would struggle to sell it on or its nicked or damp as chuff,inj the trade swifts have the nick name soggy swift..if you ever see owt yer fancy let me know and il look the price up and if any issues :y
Got to agree with your comments Herc ......

We had a 'soggy Swift' a few years back, and our latest Bailey, a 2005 Ranger (which was 2 years old when we bought it), had damp repaired last year. I was livid, as we'd parted with an 'as new' 1998 Ranger 440/4 to have this one.
 >:(
Whoever bought the '98 'van certainly got a bargain - grrrrrrr!
 :y
A caravan-dealing aquaintance reckons that we ought to be looking at a Coachman next.
He's full of praise for 'em, and says that there's no pre-delivery work to do when they arrive from the factory.
A tad pricey when compared with other 'premium brands', but you get what you pay for, I suppose ......
 ;)
 
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: sexydaz on 24 May 2010, 19:13:42
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my personal oppinion is stay away from baileys they have quite a few damp issues and cracked back panels and i always find them basic,the materials they use are chep and flimsy..elddis not that long ago had an issue with build quality and it was only if the dealer could be bothered did they reach the customer ok,but in the last 2 to 3 years i think they have pulled their act together and the vans leave the factory a lot better so if yer go down the elddis route you want a newish one and baileys you want an older one,theres some big old lunars out there called deltas which if theyre dry are a good big light van..and i would stay away from foreign vans as there hard to move on,dealers dont like adrias,dethleffs and so on if you see a nice big van thats cheap and too good to be true(it is)its somat nobody wants and you would struggle to sell it on or its nicked or damp as chuff,inj the trade swifts have the nick name soggy swift..if you ever see owt yer fancy let me know and il look the price up and if any issues :y
Got to agree with your comments Herc ......

We had a 'soggy Swift' a few years back, and our latest Bailey, a 2005 Ranger (which was 2 years old when we bought it), had damp repaired last year. I was livid, as we'd parted with an 'as new' 1998 Ranger 440/4 to have this one.
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Whoever bought the '98 'van certainly got a bargain - grrrrrrr!
 :y
A caravan-dealing aquaintance reckons that we ought to be looking at a Coachman next.
He's full of praise for 'em, and says that there's no pre-delivery work to do when they arrive from the factory.
A tad pricey when compared with other 'premium brands', but you get what you pay for, I suppose ......
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you can nearly roll a coachman off the delivery wagon and just clean it,thats how good they come and although a tad pricey you do get what you pay for..the materials are better than many caravans as in more wood and thicker but that comes with the price to pay of a heavier van but id rather have a well built sturdy van and a good record of staying dry :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: TheBoy on 24 May 2010, 19:50:44
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how do you think i managed to save 30k in less than 3 years?  ;)
By living at home ::) :P


Fair play, though, your tightness (in a nice sense) has allowed you to save a decent deposit :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: tunnie on 24 May 2010, 19:53:11
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how do you think i managed to save 30k in less than 3 years?  ;)
By living at home ::) :P


Fair play, though, your tightness (in a nice sense) has allowed you to save a decent deposit :y

10% looks like its going to be good enough, i was waiting till end of year to have 15% but it made sod all difference to the rates  :(
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: MikeDundee on 24 May 2010, 20:52:57
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I have seen some lovely looking caravans down here which I am going to see into when I get home.
The ones that have taken my eye are
a Bailey Senator Wyoming and an Elddis Crusader Sandstorm.
Do any of you caravaners know anything about them?
The Bailey I have seen the owner used to tow it with an Omega Estate no problem he says... It does look a big i thought although would need to check the weights out.


 



If you do buy one, just remember never to bring it to an OOF meet, as bread on the roof will only attract the seagulls and wake you up early ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Lazydocker on 24 May 2010, 21:06:58
There's nothing wron with caravans... Ours suits us down to the ground. It's around 20 years old, plenty big enough and only cost £200... Insurance is something like £60/year and no storage charges as it's on the drive... Which is also handy if we have lots of people visit :y We've slept in it for New Year a couple of years back and were plenty warm enough :y

As for towing weights... AFAIK you can tow up to the MATW for the Omega, which may or may not be more than 100% but the Caravan Club recommend 85% (as said above, for inexperienced towers) and no more than 100%. If you are aware of what's going on around you it's no problem :y

Go for it Daz... If it's what you want to do :y

Ours has paid for itself over and over again so we've got nothing to lose now :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Seth on 24 May 2010, 21:07:01
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my personal oppinion is stay away from baileys they have quite a few damp issues and cracked back panels and i always find them basic,the materials they use are chep and flimsy..elddis not that long ago had an issue with build quality and it was only if the dealer could be bothered did they reach the customer ok,but in the last 2 to 3 years i think they have pulled their act together and the vans leave the factory a lot better so if yer go down the elddis route you want a newish one and baileys you want an older one,theres some big old lunars out there called deltas which if theyre dry are a good big light van..and i would stay away from foreign vans as there hard to move on,dealers dont like adrias,dethleffs and so on if you see a nice big van thats cheap and too good to be true(it is)its somat nobody wants and you would struggle to sell it on or its nicked or damp as chuff,inj the trade swifts have the nick name soggy swift..if you ever see owt yer fancy let me know and il look the price up and if any issues :y
Got to agree with your comments Herc ......

We had a 'soggy Swift' a few years back, and our latest Bailey, a 2005 Ranger (which was 2 years old when we bought it), had damp repaired last year. I was livid, as we'd parted with an 'as new' 1998 Ranger 440/4 to have this one.
 >:(
Whoever bought the '98 'van certainly got a bargain - grrrrrrr!
 :y
A caravan-dealing aquaintance reckons that we ought to be looking at a Coachman next.
He's full of praise for 'em, and says that there's no pre-delivery work to do when they arrive from the factory.
A tad pricey when compared with other 'premium brands', but you get what you pay for, I suppose ......
 ;)
 
you can nearly roll a coachman off the delivery wagon and just clean it,thats how good they come and although a tad pricey you do get what you pay for..the materials are better than many caravans as in more wood and thicker but that comes with the price to pay of a heavier van but id rather have a well built sturdy van and a good record of staying dry :y

Great minds think alike Herc! :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 May 2010, 21:13:36
We have a 2003 Bailey Discovery

Build quality is OK but not great

Some small cracks in the front panel - advice required
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Vamps on 24 May 2010, 21:14:21
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No one will get stuck behind me infact I have overtaken more cars than you can imagine towing a caravan.
Kev I also have a tent which I will also be bringing to the Lakes which takes all the room of an estate and more.... But you still can't get betond the fact that a caravan has more luxuries than any tent.
Just to add to that, I will also be keeping my tent plus hopefylly be leaving my future caravan at a site I eventually find that we want to return too. X x x  x

But £13k is a lot of years in a hotel room, which has even more luxuries, and doesn't get in the way of traffic ;)

I agree that it is a lot of money, but, if I can find a site that i like, we or at least the kids and Mrs Loo-knee will go the whole of the school holidays to it.
Seems worth it to me anyway 




Then go for a Static, find a site within an hour of home making it easy for you to go at weekends and during the holidays you can commute to work :y
Darth, I know you travel all over, was talking in general :D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 May 2010, 21:15:46
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We have a 2003 Bailey Discovery

Build quality is OK but not great

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Get a very fine drill bit and drill each end of the crack then run a bit of sealant in the hole.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: CaptainZok on 24 May 2010, 21:21:01
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We have a 2003 Bailey Discovery

Build quality is OK but not great

Some small cracks in the front panel - advice required

Gallon of unleaded and a box of matches.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Seth on 24 May 2010, 21:24:05
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We have a 2003 Bailey Discovery

Build quality is OK but not great

Some small cracks in the front panel - advice required

Gallon of unleaded and a box of matches.
:D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Andy B on 24 May 2010, 22:01:43
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I have seen some lovely looking caravans down here which I am going to see into when I get home.
The ones that have taken my eye are
a Bailey Senator Wyoming and an Elddis Crusader Sandstorm.
Do any of you caravaners know anything about them?
The Bailey I have seen the owner used to tow it with an Omega Estate no problem he says... It does look a big i thought although would need to check the weights out.


 



If you do buy one, just remember never to bring it to an OOF meet, as bread on the roof will only attract the seagulls and wake you up early ;D ;D

Unless you're caught in the act!  :P :P
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: VXL V6 on 24 May 2010, 22:08:48
Don't worry, the Pink Crocs will frighten them off.
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Cliffo B on 24 May 2010, 23:34:29
Hello Darth, that Abbey's a super van specially if it's got GRP sidewalls a lot more durable than ally.Also see you have an MV6 I've got a rear suspension mod that I think you'd love way ahead of Monroes for an MV6. I had it on my MV6,and kept it in case I get an MV6, but now not likely, now growing older and like my auto too much. Just PM me if you decide and I'll fill you in as best I can :y :y :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Elite Pete on 25 May 2010, 09:10:55
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Hello Darth, that Abbey's a super van specially if it's got GRP sidewalls a lot more durable than ally.Also see you have an MV6 I've got a rear suspension mod that I think you'd love way ahead of Monroes for an MV6. I had it on my MV6,and kept it in case I get an MV6, but now not likely, now growing older and like my auto too much. Just PM me if you decide and I'll fill you in as best I can :y :y :y
He'll love that ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 May 2010, 19:31:42
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Hello Darth, that Abbey's a super van specially if it's got GRP sidewalls a lot more durable than ally.Also see you have an MV6 I've got a rear suspension mod that I think you'd love way ahead of Monroes for an MV6. I had it on my MV6,and kept it in case I get an MV6, but now not likely, now growing older and like my auto too much. Just PM me if you decide and I'll fill you in as best I can :y :y :y
He'll love that ;D ;D

Now, now you Bitch lmao


Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: sexydaz on 25 May 2010, 19:35:40
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We have a 2003 Bailey Discovery

Build quality is OK but not great

Some small cracks in the front panel - advice required
depends where they are and what your panel is(plastic or fibreglass..grp)if the cracks are by the awning rail then you have a possible water ingress problem if there by the grab handles thats the normal place to crack,with the grp panels you can dremel a groove out of the crack and repair with gelcoat and paint..if you want to be extravagant you could approach bailey and get colour matched gelcoat,ive known 2 companys this year to repair plastic panels and they both used normal filler and painted so ive yet to see if that works or lasts but iirc i think yours is grp so groove out the crack..gelcoat..sand and hey presto
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Martin_1962 on 25 May 2010, 21:12:27
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We have a 2003 Bailey Discovery

Build quality is OK but not great

Some small cracks in the front panel - advice required
depends where they are and what your panel is(plastic or fibreglass..grp)if the cracks are by the awning rail then you have a possible water ingress problem if there by the grab handles thats the normal place to crack,with the grp panels you can dremel a groove out of the crack and repair with gelcoat and paint..if you want to be extravagant you could approach bailey and get colour matched gelcoat,ive known 2 companys this year to repair plastic panels and they both used normal filler and painted so ive yet to see if that works or lasts but iirc i think yours is grp so groove out the crack..gelcoat..sand and hey presto


I used an ABS solvent and it didn't touch it so likely GRP

I'll dig down and check before summer holiday
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 May 2010, 17:44:18
I have but two words to say

Pie Key
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Andy B on 26 May 2010, 17:59:18
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I have but two words to say

Pie Key

how about another two?

warm      dry  :y :y
Title: Re: A Caravan maybe on the cards
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 May 2010, 18:10:55
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I have but two words to say

Pie Key

how about another two?

warm      dry  :y :y


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