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Title: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 10 March 2010, 11:46:44
I know some hate it and some find it dull but personally I love it!

I've watched F1 for over 30yrs  :o and can't remember looking forward to a season more you've got the returns of Schumacher and Lotus, ditching refuelling, Button vs Hamilton, Alonso vs Massa, Alonso vs Hamilton, Schumacher vs everyone 19 tracks, 9months....it's the reason I never work Sundays  :y

Who's going to win? Off the top of my head I can see Hamilton, Button, Massa, Alonso, Vettel, Webber, Rosberg and Kubica easily capable of winning races, of them I think the two Ferrari cars will be the ones to beat - I don't see Schumacher taking any chequered flags, I reckon Button will be a firm no.2 at McLaren - i've read a lot of rubbish about how Button is better placed to win at McLaren because Hamilton's style of driving is more damaging than Button's smooth style on the tyres - I seriously doubt Hamilton and his team haven't sorted that out for this seasons heavier cars - they're not idiots  :y

Heart says Massa to win WDC (losing the championship by a single point on the last bend of the last race at your home GP 2 years ago, losing with supreme dignity and then that crash that nearly killed him last year) but my head says Alonso - best driver in the field, in one of the best cars this year  8-)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 March 2010, 12:34:29
Am rooting for any of the Brittsh drivers.

Would be nice for a 1-2-3 between in the drivers championship at the end of the year, and if it was then hopefully schuey might break off once and for all, too much revolves round his whims.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 10 March 2010, 13:51:19
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Am rooting for any of the Brittsh drivers.

Would be nice for a 1-2-3 between in the drivers championship at the end of the year, and if it was then hopefully schuey might break off once and for all, too much revolves round his whims.

hopefully Mercedes allow both Schumy and Rosberg to race as equals - but knowing Schumacher he will dominate the team to the detriment of his teammate, and anyone else who gets in his way  :o
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Ddraigcymro on 10 March 2010, 13:53:45
Although it would be a good to see brits on top im going with an outsider and backing Teimo gloc (is that haw its spelt well folowers should know who im on about)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Dan1005 on 10 March 2010, 14:00:31
Being an Aussie im backing Webber all the way... behind that I like the look of the mclaren team..
Will be an interesting season. Hope I get to catch some races. I hope Bahrain with the heat and use of tires throws up some suprises late in the race  :D that would be good  ;D
ohh and I hope Shoe me crashes out in the first few corners.. :P
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Radar on 10 March 2010, 14:07:24
I think it will be an interesting season too.

Personally, I think Schumacher's neck will still give him problems and i reckon the championship will finish alonso 1st, vettel 2nd, hamilton 3rd.


Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 10 March 2010, 15:52:47
Watching one of the races last season and Mrs Albs asked me "who drives for team O,glock?". ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Radar on 10 March 2010, 16:55:11
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Watching one of the races last season and Mrs Albs asked me "who drives for team O,glock?". ::) ;D ;D

Very Good!
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 10 March 2010, 17:07:17
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Watching one of the races last season and Mrs Albs asked me "who drives for team O,glock?". ::) ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D is that an irish team then?  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 10 March 2010, 17:11:26
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Although it would be a good to see brits on top im going with an outsider and backing Teimo gloc (is that haw its spelt well folowers should know who im on about)


Timo Glock's had a couple of good podium finishes, but this year I can't see his new Virgin team "doing a Brawn" unfortunately  :(
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 10 March 2010, 22:33:48
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Although it would be a good to see brits on top im going with an outsider and backing Teimo gloc (is that haw its spelt well folowers should know who im on about)


Timo Glock's had a couple of good podium finishes, but this year I can't see his new Virgin team "doing a Brawn" unfortunately  :(

He's also one of the few drivers to overtake on the outside at Interlagos at the first corner in the wet and get away with it.(Few seasons ago though)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: bob.dent on 11 March 2010, 09:50:59
I agree it should be the most interesting season for some time with the new teams, driver line ups and regulation changes. Not so sure that any one team is going to run away with the title but without a doubt, Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes and Red Bull are likely to be the teams to beat. Nice to see a few a few new teams including Lotus coming in this year but think it'll take them a while to move up the grid.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Lazydocker on 11 March 2010, 17:28:50
I know we seem to say it every year... But this year's changes really should make it interesting :y :y

I'll certainly be watching to see what happens
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: webby23 on 11 March 2010, 20:10:39
First practice on BBC Online around 6.35am tomrw I think

Day off work so will be watching both sessions tomrw.

F1 is back.........SUMMER IS COMING.........!!!!

 :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: cmeonthemove on 11 March 2010, 21:20:44
Being local to me I'm rooting for Team Lotus. It's just a shame they couldn't employ any British drivers this time.

Really looking forward to Sunday's race. It wuill be interesting to see who gets a good start to the season. I think the McLarens will do well.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: webby23 on 12 March 2010, 08:47:59
Just watched first practice

Cars look alot better proportioned this year, the McLarens are gorgeous

 :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 12 March 2010, 13:07:26
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Just watched first practice

Cars look alot better proportioned this year, the McLarens are gorgeous

 :y

last couple of years the Mclarens have looked amazing 2008 especially :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: splott on 12 March 2010, 13:12:39
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Just watched first practice

Cars look alot better proportioned this year, the McLarens are gorgeous

 :y

last couple of years the Mclarens have looked amazing 2008 especially :y

There you go Banjax, post transfered.......................... :y
Latest from practice session
1 Rosburg
2 Hamilton
3 Schumacher
4 Button
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/default.stm
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 March 2010, 14:22:11
Just checked, nothing but the Sky HD preview on the BBC channel on sunday.  FFS, why cant we have F1 in HD.


[size=14]TUNNIE - Gerrit sorted.  ::) ::)[/size]
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 12 March 2010, 14:41:03
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Just watched first practice

Cars look alot better proportioned this year, the McLarens are gorgeous

 :y

last couple of years the Mclarens have looked amazing 2008 especially :y

There you go Banjax, post transfered.......................... :y
Latest from practice session
1 Rosburg
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3 Schumacher
4 Button
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/default.stm

nice one  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 12 March 2010, 18:19:27
The most georgeuos F1 car ever made imo. And often driven by the greatest racing driver ever to sit in a car imo. - Gilles Villeneuve.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/1978_Ferrari_312_T3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1978_Ferrari_312_T3.jpg&h=2592&w=3888&sz=4794&tbnid=7XLqeXs-9mSLUM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dferrari%2B312t3&usg=__W-6fopsqYv1NreiL9o61s3KYCTE=&ei=IoWaS4mLFp320wSZ1eXmAQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image&ved=0CA8Q9QEwAw
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: MikeDundee on 12 March 2010, 18:32:49
I do like formula 1 have followed it for some time now, and low and behold, whats his face is coming back this weekend, should be interesting ::)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: splott on 12 March 2010, 19:28:35
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The most georgeuos F1 car ever made imo. And often driven by the greatest racing driver ever to sit in a car imo. - Gilles Villeneuve.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/1978_Ferrari_312_T3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1978_Ferrari_312_T3.jpg&h=2592&w=3888&sz=4794&tbnid=7XLqeXs-9mSLUM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dferrari%2B312t3&usg=__W-6fopsqYv1NreiL9o61s3KYCTE=&ei=IoWaS4mLFp320wSZ1eXmAQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image&ved=0CA8Q9QEwAw
Yes it is a beautifull car :y
But I think this is a close contender for that accolade..........(http://[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/splott_album/78_Lotus_79_DV-06-WG_b011.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 13 March 2010, 16:16:11
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The most georgeuos F1 car ever made imo. And often driven by the greatest racing driver ever to sit in a car imo. - Gilles Villeneuve.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/1978_Ferrari_312_T3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1978_Ferrari_312_T3.jpg&h=2592&w=3888&sz=4794&tbnid=7XLqeXs-9mSLUM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dferrari%2B312t3&usg=__W-6fopsqYv1NreiL9o61s3KYCTE=&ei=IoWaS4mLFp320wSZ1eXmAQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image&ved=0CA8Q9QEwAw
Yes it is a beautifull car :y
But I think this is a close contender for that accolade..........(http://[IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/splott_album/78_Lotus_79_DV-06-WG_b011.jpg)[/img]

small and perfectly formed  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 13 March 2010, 16:20:18
jumped on Massa at 8/1 before he qualified 2nd - wished i'd gone e/w now  ::)

looking forward to Rubens picking off  a few tomorrow early doors on fresh tyres - if you're not going to qualify in the first 3 rows I reckon you're better in 11th and getting the shiny new boots, for some reason 1-10 have to use the tyres they qualify in  :-/ - still - it'll make the midfield interesting tomorrow  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: webby23 on 13 March 2010, 18:23:30
The whole race will be interesting tomrw....inc seeing if Schumacher can make any progress from 7th on the grid.

Roll on 12 noon..........

 :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 14 March 2010, 13:50:36
well done Ferrari solid 1,2 Vettel was unlucky - looks like it'll be a shoot-out between the Reds and the Red Bulls early on  :y

Mclaren well off the pace but well done bringing it home 3rd Lewis  :)

and the Lotus looks gorgeous - its so slow you get a good look at it - but they both finished(almost) which is a great result
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: mantahatch on 14 March 2010, 13:53:40
Really glad Lotus brought both cars home, interesting to see both cars tested using CFD failed to finish.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: webby23 on 14 March 2010, 13:55:00
Not the most exciting first race considering all the potential of it.......

 :-/
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: pedroMV6 on 14 March 2010, 14:03:49
Not a great fan of F1, but a fan of Lotus - OK, Lotus Racing is only very loosely related to team Lotus, but good enough for me.

So I'm happy! :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Entwood on 14 March 2010, 17:46:16
A pretty boring procession TBH .. :(
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 14 March 2010, 17:49:47
yup. watched a bit of it, sooo dull and boring. Got so bored took the dogs out for a walk instead.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 14 March 2010, 18:03:24
it wasn't the best race i've seen, maybe drivers are too concerned with the tyre wear so aren't going flat out.....DC was saying the teams discussed a compulsory minimum 2-stop strategy to alleviate this  but pragmatism won over spectacle......
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Varche on 14 March 2010, 19:49:55
Oh dear!
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 14 March 2010, 19:54:23
Total utter tedium. The only bright spot was Rosberg junior beating Scumacher, long may that continue.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 14 March 2010, 20:28:04
I had it on whilst soldering a few bits and bobs for about an hour.  I'm guessing I saw the boring bits, as it was mind numbingly dull
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 March 2010, 21:32:23
Not bad but I was expecting a bit more.

Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 28 March 2010, 06:40:39
hopefully Oz is a better race than the snoozathon in Bahrain - might be a wet one at the start too  :o




I'm the only one sad enough to be up aren't I  :-?
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 28 March 2010, 07:09:30
Nope, I,m watching at work for another 20 minutes. Worlds best drivers ? my @rse. ::) :-X :)

World Superbikes on Eurosport later - proper racing. :y :)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 28 March 2010, 08:16:14
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Nope, I,m watching at work for another 20 minutes. Worlds best drivers ? my @rse. ::) :-X :)

World Superbikes on Eurosport later - proper racing. :y :)


actually - i might dig out MotoGP 09/10 on the PS3 later today, I'm a racing god of course  ::) ;D ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 28 March 2010, 16:46:09
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hopefully Oz is a better race than the snoozathon in Bahrain - might be a wet one at the start too  :o




I'm the only one sad enough to be up aren't I  :-?
On the upside, the boredom may help you sleep ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Hannah Judes Dad on 28 March 2010, 17:50:21
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Nope, I,m watching at work for another 20 minutes. Worlds best drivers ? my @rse. ::) :-X :)

World Superbikes on Eurosport later - proper racing. :y :)

Definately  :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 04 April 2010, 07:39:56
Great race in prospect today with McLarens and Ferraris coming through the back of the field, Red Bull again at the front of the grid but look out for Rubens, Hulk and Rosberg to make headway - it's going to be fun when it rains  :y

Oh, happy easter  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 08:25:46
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Great race in prospect today with McLarens and Ferraris coming through the back of the field, Red Bull again at the front of the grid but look out for Rubens, Hulk and Rosberg to make headway - it's going to be fun when it rains  :y

Oh, happy easter  ;)

I am watching it working hard, 3 second speed advantage needed for an over-take. Unless it rains, its going to be another boring one.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2010, 08:34:03
Must be some wet paint somewhere that needs supervising, somewhere...
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 08:45:16
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Must be some wet paint somewhere that needs supervising, somewhere...

Maybe, or at least removing some lifters  ::)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2010, 08:57:52
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Must be some wet paint somewhere that needs supervising, somewhere...

Maybe, or at least removing some lifters  ::)
Which reminds me, I could do with looking at the wiring loom under your shitbox at some point in the near future....
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 09:01:15
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Must be some wet paint somewhere that needs supervising, somewhere...

Maybe, or at least removing some lifters  ::)
Which reminds me, I could do with looking at the wiring loom under your shitbox at some point in the near future....

That would be the shitbox which towed your dead V6 home? The same shitbox which had to slow down as it was towing you too fast?  ::)

Ohh and the same shitbox which didn't break during a gas conversion?  :P :P
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2010, 09:08:06
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Must be some wet paint somewhere that needs supervising, somewhere...

Maybe, or at least removing some lifters  ::)
Which reminds me, I could do with looking at the wiring loom under your shitbox at some point in the near future....

That would be the shitbox which towed your dead V6 home? The same shitbox which had to slow down as it was towing you too fast?  ::)

Ohh and the same shitbox which didn't break during a gas conversion?  :P :P
Either of your 2.2 shitboxes would do, but not the Elite
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 04 April 2010, 10:01:41
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Great race in prospect today with McLarens and Ferraris coming through the back of the field, Red Bull again at the front of the grid but look out for Rubens, Hulk and Rosberg to make headway - it's going to be fun when it rains  :y

Oh, happy easter  ;)

I am watching it working hard, 3 second speed advantage needed for an over-take. Unless it rains, its going to be another boring one.

how did Hamilton pass Button last week - is he 3 seconds faster then cos the cars looked the same to me............Eddie Jordan told you that did he?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 04 April 2010, 10:22:04
tyre degradation, late braking, nerve, driver skill all contribute to overtaking - it is difficult to pass, if it was easy anyone could do it so spare me the bs and go watch Nascar go round and round on ovals if thats your cup of tea ::)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 04 April 2010, 10:39:10
3 races, 3 different winners in 3 different cars - i'll be continuing to watch this season  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2010, 10:55:58
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tyre degradation, late braking, nerve, driver skill all contribute to overtaking - it is difficult to pass, if it was easy anyone could do it so spare me the bs and go watch Nascar go round and round on ovals if thats your cup of tea ::)
These are supposed to be the best single seat drivers in the world.  Racing needs overtaking, if not its a parade.

Not sure if todays race has finished (or even started), but please report back how many (non pit stop) overtakes there were in the top 6 ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 10:57:07
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tyre degradation, late braking, nerve, driver skill all contribute to overtaking - it is difficult to pass, if it was easy anyone could do it so spare me the bs and go watch Nascar go round and round on ovals if thats your cup of tea ::)
These are supposed to be the best single seat drivers in the world.  Racing needs overtaking, if not its a parade.

Not sure if todays race has finished (or even started), but please report back how many (non pit stop) overtakes there were in the top 6 ;)

Err i counted one, on the first corner on the first lap  ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2010, 11:10:58
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tyre degradation, late braking, nerve, driver skill all contribute to overtaking - it is difficult to pass, if it was easy anyone could do it so spare me the bs and go watch Nascar go round and round on ovals if thats your cup of tea ::)
These are supposed to be the best single seat drivers in the world.  Racing needs overtaking, if not its a parade.

Not sure if todays race has finished (or even started), but please report back how many (non pit stop) overtakes there were in the top 6 ;)

Err i counted one, on the first corner on the first lap  ;D
Well I guess thats an improvement :y

Is it over? Who won?
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: sassanach on 04 April 2010, 11:12:15
after watching f1 for 20 years it has never got this banal(except during the latter schuey years)nascar or f1 how can you tell the difference? bring on on btcc or motogp or any m/c racing
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2010, 11:17:36
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after watching f1 for 20 years it has never got this banal(except during the latter schuey years)nascar or f1 how can you tell the difference? bring on on btcc or motogp or any m/c racing
Agree, got into it in the late 70s, when it was a 30m highlight show on BBC2 late Sunday night.

Enjoyed it mostly up to the late 90s/early 00s - around the good ferrari/mclaren battles, but since then, terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired, terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired.  Only worth a watch if something happens - eg rain (but then they bring out safety cars, because the namby pamby drivers aren't man enough).
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 04 April 2010, 12:51:27
62 overtakes in the first 2 races alone (ie up to and including Australia), compare that with any F1 season in the last 30 years - don't believe the hype, watch or don't watch F1 just spare me the tired media cliches masquerading as facts, please  ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: fletchesmrs on 04 April 2010, 15:24:52
Love F1, not missed a race in 20 years, never record it always watch it live, no matter what time it is on. Some dont like it but its personal choice. Good to the BTCC is back on today aswell, by the time i get to bed tonight will have spent 7 hours watching motor racing, no better way to spend a sunday  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Omegatoy on 04 April 2010, 20:42:27
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Love F1, not missed a race in 20 years, never record it always watch it live, no matter what time it is on. Some dont like it but its personal choice. Good to the BTCC is back on today aswell, by the time i get to bed tonight will have spent 7 hours watching motor racing, no better way to spend a sunday  :y

sunday is the only day in two weeks i get the remote!!!!! she knows better than to not allow me the F1 and BTCC  rest of the time you can keep the telly dear!!
especially now that men and motors has disappeard :'( thought it was going to be a real cracker of a race, but button changed his tyres to early and suffered later on, laughed when schuey said in the interview
that he thinks he is nearly at his best again, saw him at hereth and an safely say he was very rusty then and i dont see much improvement so far!!! thought webber would have put up a better fight,
We have got a bet on here between me, peter dlaumling(german) Paco,Miguel,Jesus, (spanish) that if an english or british driver wins the championship then they must hold a all night barbeque with free drinks, for us , if alonso wins then i supply the barbie for them and if a german wins then  they supply for him!! sounds complicated but it should be good!! gives us three different nationalities to cheer/abuse/shout at!! :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 20:45:29
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Love F1, not missed a race in 20 years, never record it always watch it live, no matter what time it is on. Some dont like it but its personal choice. Good to the BTCC is back on today aswell, by the time i get to bed tonight will have spent 7 hours watching motor racing, no better way to spend a sunday  :y

sunday is the only day in two weeks i get the remote!!!!! she knows better than to not allow me the F1 and BTCC  rest of the time you can keep the telly dear!!
especially now that men and motors has disappeard :'( thought it was going to be a real cracker of a race, but button changed his tyres to early and suffered later on, laughed when schuey said in the interview
that he thinks he is nearly at his best again, saw him at hereth and an safely say he was very rusty then and i dont see much improvement so far!!! thought webber would have put up a better fight,
We have got a bet on here between me, peter dlaumling(german) Paco,Miguel,Jesus, (spanish) that if an english or british driver wins the championship then they must hold a all night barbeque with free drinks, for us , if alonso wins then i supply the barbie for them and if a german wins then  they supply for him!! sounds complicated but it should be good!! gives us three different nationalities to cheer/abuse/shout at!! :y

Sounds like fun!  8-)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 April 2010, 20:46:11
Watched the race twice, Both live and replay, fell asleep twice so dont know if it rained, or any incidents in the last 10 laps or even the result as yet.  :-/
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 20:47:42
i reckon they should put sprinkler system on the track, and turn it on at random intervals!
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Omegatoy on 04 April 2010, 20:51:16
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Love F1, not missed a race in 20 years, never record it always watch it live, no matter what time it is on. Some dont like it but its personal choice. Good to the BTCC is back on today aswell, by the time i get to bed tonight will have spent 7 hours watching motor racing, no better way to spend a sunday  :y

sunday is the only day in two weeks i get the remote!!!!! she knows better than to not allow me the F1 and BTCC  rest of the time you can keep the telly dear!!
especially now that men and motors has disappeard :'( thought it was going to be a real cracker of a race, but button changed his tyres to early and suffered later on, laughed when schuey said in the interview
that he thinks he is nearly at his best again, saw him at hereth and an safely say he was very rusty then and i dont see much improvement so far!!! thought webber would have put up a better fight,
We have got a bet on here between me, peter dlaumling(german) Paco,Miguel,Jesus, (spanish) that if an english or british driver wins the championship then they must hold a all night barbeque with free drinks, for us , if alonso wins then i supply the barbie for them and if a german wins then  they supply for him!! sounds complicated but it should be good!! gives us three different nationalities to cheer/abuse/shout at!! :y

Sounds like fun!  8-)

yeah it will be, all of us go out buggie and quad biking over the mountains together, always end up at a bar in the middle of nowhere then the least pissed driver has to lead us home!!!
sunds good fun? well it is till you realise we only go on mountain tracks and rivers and all of them look the bloody same, no matter where in the country you are, ended up at Loja the othr week which is a 40 min drive by road!!! and that was after we had been up at the windmill farm just to look!!!also visited A marble quary which was amazing!!!
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 04 April 2010, 20:56:13
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Love F1, not missed a race in 20 years, never record it always watch it live, no matter what time it is on. Some dont like it but its personal choice. Good to the BTCC is back on today aswell, by the time i get to bed tonight will have spent 7 hours watching motor racing, no better way to spend a sunday  :y

sunday is the only day in two weeks i get the remote!!!!! she knows better than to not allow me the F1 and BTCC  rest of the time you can keep the telly dear!!
especially now that men and motors has disappeard :'( thought it was going to be a real cracker of a race, but button changed his tyres to early and suffered later on, laughed when schuey said in the interview
that he thinks he is nearly at his best again, saw him at hereth and an safely say he was very rusty then and i dont see much improvement so far!!! thought webber would have put up a better fight,
We have got a bet on here between me, peter dlaumling(german) Paco,Miguel,Jesus, (spanish) that if an english or british driver wins the championship then they must hold a all night barbeque with free drinks, for us , if alonso wins then i supply the barbie for them and if a german wins then  they supply for him!! sounds complicated but it should be good!! gives us three different nationalities to cheer/abuse/shout at!! :y

Sounds like fun!  8-)

yeah it will be, all of us go out buggie and quad biking over the mountains together, always end up at a bar in the middle of nowhere then the least pissed driver has to lead us home!!!
sunds good fun? well it is till you realise we only go on mountain tracks and rivers and all of them look the bloody same, no matter where in the country you are, ended up at Loja the othr week which is a 40 min drive by road!!! and that was after we had been up at the windmill farm just to look!!!also visited A marble quary which was amazing!!!

I love quad bikes, only tried them a few times. Looks i need to visit Spain  8-)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Omegatoy on 04 April 2010, 21:00:48
note my avatar!!! thats a 700cc injected raptor, which is looking a bit dazed after being hit head on by an out of control buggie!!!!had sore wrist and damaged thumb but it all ok now, quads are very addictive but they can bite you easily!!always been a m.cycle fan al me life till i started riding quad out here, its much more fun!! and me licence is safe!!! :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 04 April 2010, 21:05:56
Three minor points of interest imo
1. Very glad to see that young Rosberg is still driving rings around "the greatest driver ever" - he obviously isnt allowed to cheat in an illegal car anymore. :)
2. The young Russian in the Renault who refused to be intimidated by Hamilton in the Mclaren. :)
3. How did Hamilton get away with only a warning when he blatantly weaved the whole length of the straight to keep the Russian lad behind him. :-/ :o
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 April 2010, 21:15:23
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Three minor points of interest imo
1. Very glad to see that young Rosberg is still driving rings around "the greatest driver ever" - he obviously isnt allowed to cheat in an illegal car anymore. :)
2. The young Russian in the Renault who refused to be intimidated by Hamilton in the Mclaren. :)
3. How did Hamilton get away with only a warning when he blatantly weaved the whole length of the straight to keep the Russian lad behind him. :-/ :o

martin brundle didnt see it as blatent weaving so maybe the warning was enough.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 04 April 2010, 21:23:12
Banjax - I have been watching F1 for well over 30 years. I have not a shred of doubt that in the last 15 years it has gone downhill to the point where it is a shadow of what it once was.

This is when it was motor racing.And they were driving cars which, if you hit something hard you may well die, as tragically Villenueve did in the end.  :'(
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2tIFxSEGA[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siY994lShWE&feature=fvw[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSU1IXrICso&NR=1[/media]
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 April 2010, 21:37:47
2nd vid had some classic moves on it, I love when they anr rubbing wheels '180 down the main straight. :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 April 2010, 21:57:27
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Three minor points of interest imo
1. Very glad to see that young Rosberg is still driving rings around "the greatest driver ever" - he obviously isnt allowed to cheat in an illegal car anymore. :)
2. The young Russian in the Renault who refused to be intimidated by Hamilton in the Mclaren. :)
3. How did Hamilton get away with only a warning when he blatantly weaved the whole length of the straight to keep the Russian lad behind him. :-/ :o

martin brundle didnt see it as blatent weaving so maybe the warning was enough.


Afterwards LH went off into the distance.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 04 April 2010, 22:03:09
I dont dispute that Martin, but Im pretty sure the rules say you can move offline once and only once. Iirc he moved 4 times. I reckon Skruntie should watch it back again and report back his thoughts. :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 April 2010, 22:07:54
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I dont dispute that Martin, but Im pretty sure the rules say you can move offline once and only once. Iirc he moved 4 times. I reckon Skruntie should watch it back again and report back his thoughts. :y


If it had been the other way round there would have been an issue, they let it go as LH was a lot quicker. Since it was a British driver we think great rather than have a go, but then if it was any of the top drivers vs any of the slowies I would think OK, now prove the stewards right.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 April 2010, 22:33:27
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I dont dispute that Martin, but Im pretty sure the rules say you can move offline once and only once. Iirc he moved 4 times. I reckon Skruntie should watch it back again and report back his thoughts. :y

I wasnt commenting on what I thought, i was replying regards what martin brundle said.  adding to that they gave him a warning and not a timed pit stop warning.  TBH I thought the movent rules were based to cutting people up in the bends.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 04 April 2010, 22:35:27
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Banjax - I have been watching F1 for well over 30 years. I have not a shred of doubt that in the last 15 years it has gone downhill to the point where it is a shadow of what it once was.

This is when it was motor racing.And they were driving cars which, if you hit something hard you may well die, as tragically Villenueve did in the end.  :'(
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl2tIFxSEGA[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siY994lShWE&feature=fvw[/media]

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSU1IXrICso&NR=1[/media]

great footage Albs - thanks for that  :y,  but we are in a different era and there were boring processions in the 70's and 80's too, I think it's natural to hark back to an imagined "golden era" but todays drivers are just as skillful - yes the cars are much safer (thankfully) but that doesn't diminish the skill,  my one criticism nowadays is the stultifying banality of driver interviews, you rarely see them without some corporate PR mandarin hovering in the background with a clipboard, ready to move in the moment a driver says anything remotely controversial/interesting

as for the skill - every era has a handful of amazing talents - Fangio, Clark, Moss, Stewart, Lauda, Villeneuve, Piquet, Prost, Senna, Schumacher, Alonso any of whom would be quick in any car with any set of regulations - what F1 has always been is the pinnacle of driving talent married to the pinnacle of racing technology - and any era you look at has great battles and thrilling races....along with some dull ones that are quickly forgotten  8-)

ps I loved Villeneuve too  :y :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 04 April 2010, 22:42:22
I did realise you werent giving opinion Skruntie. :y.........just thought that as you had recorded it you could maybe take another look.
I dont see that it matters wether its a top/quick/driver/car etc. In theory if Hamilton hadnt weaved the Renault might have passed him into the next corner and stayed in front until there was another chance for Hamilton to pass again, this could have continued through every lap off the race until one of them happened to be ahead of the other at the flag, that to me is motor racing. Having a quicker car isnt necessarily anything to do with it. Hamilton would have known that it could have continued all through the race, so blocked him until he could get to the twisties and then pulled away - not cricket imo.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 April 2010, 22:47:30
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I did realise you werent giving opinion Skruntie. :y.........just thought that as you had recorded it you could maybe take another look.
I dont see that it matters wether its a top/quick/driver/car etc. In theory if Hamilton hadnt weaved the Renault might have passed him into the next corner and stayed in front until there was another chance for Hamilton to pass again, this could have continued through every lap off the race until one of them happened to be ahead of the other at the flag, that to me is motor racing. Having a quicker car isnt necessarily anything to do with it. Hamilton would have known that it could have continued all through the race, so blocked him until he could get to the twisties and then pulled away - not cricket imo.

but at the end of the day all he got was a warning, so did he acrually break the rules.  Martin brundle thought no and the stewards said dont do it again, so result stands.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 04 April 2010, 22:57:10
Quite agree, just surprised. In lots of classes of racing, weaving on the straight to keep rivals behind gets punished as a matter of course. ;)
Just watched it again on BBC red button - dont see how it could be described as anything other than blatant weaving. :-/
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 05 April 2010, 10:02:07
Banjax - we are currently in an extended era pretty much the same as the ground effect cars, no overtaking.

FIA, to make the sport even remotely interesting, need to resolve this.  I agree that banning fuel stops is the right move (for the past few years, the only overtaking has been pit stops). But they need to reduce the effects of aerodynamics drastically. Obviously, these cars still need to be quicker than lesser, single seat formulas.

So, the obvious requirements:
Increase mechanical grip (gone the right direction by gone back to slicks), allow wider tyres
Massively reduce effective size nosecone/rear wing/diffusers
Stop keep limiting engine power by reducing cc and setting rules on engine architecture - this is the premium formula of racing!
Maybe, to keep greenies happy, and to effectively control engine power via another method, have a set size fuel tank.


I don't see that as rocket science, and this should have been done years ago.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Chris_H on 05 April 2010, 10:12:11
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Three minor points of interest imo
1. Very glad to see that young Rosberg is still driving rings around "the greatest driver ever" - he obviously isnt allowed to cheat in an illegal car anymore. :)
2. The young Russian in the Renault who refused to be intimidated by Hamilton in the Mclaren. :)
3. How did Hamilton get away with only a warning when he blatantly weaved the whole length of the straight to keep the Russian lad behind him. :-/ :o

martin brundle didnt see it as blatent weaving so maybe the warning was enough.
I thought he was pushing his luck when he did it.  The weaving rule is about preventing people from overtaking and Hamilton had cleanly passed  already so there was no real argument that an overtake was viable.  Hamilton was trying to break the tow so he was moving first, and t'other bloke following.  The weaving that is banned is when the bloke behind pulls out and the one in front blocks it.  Only a minute difference but I suspect that's what the stewards saw.

FWIW Vettel weaved several times as he passed the chequered flag.  It would have been a shame if he had been banned! ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 05 April 2010, 18:37:58
If Hamilton hadnt weaved there was every chance that the bloke would have pulled out of the tow at the end of the stright and passed him, which is why Hamilton did what he did, so he was weaving to prevent overtaking. ;)
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 05 April 2010, 18:39:24
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Banjax - we are currently in an extended era pretty much the same as the ground effect cars, no overtaking.

FIA, to make the sport even remotely interesting, need to resolve this.  I agree that banning fuel stops is the right move (for the past few years, the only overtaking has been pit stops). But they need to reduce the effects of aerodynamics drastically. Obviously, these cars still need to be quicker than lesser, single seat formulas.

So, the obvious requirements:
Increase mechanical grip (gone the right direction by gone back to slicks), allow wider tyres
Massively reduce effective size nosecone/rear wing/diffusers
Stop keep limiting engine power by reducing cc and setting rules on engine architecture - this is the premium formula of racing!
Maybe, to keep greenies happy, and to effectively control engine power via another method, have a set size fuel tank.


I don't see that as rocket science, and this should have been done years ago.
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Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 16 April 2010, 09:03:13
I thought Toyota had pulled out of F1?  :o :o
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Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Chris_H on 16 April 2010, 09:59:02
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I thought Toyota had pulled out of F1?  :o :o
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQZrmBoRjKY[/media]
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Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 16 April 2010, 16:15:46
180mph stand on the brakes and the front wheels fly off!

better link here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8624276.stm

someones got a nice souvenir too - lucky no one was hurt :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: feeutfo on 16 April 2010, 18:05:22
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180mph stand on the brakes and the front wheels fly off!

better link here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8624276.stm

someones got a nice souvenir too - lucky no one was hurt :y
pmsl when i saw that, the magical disapearing wheels, dissapeared in a puff of smoke.
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Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 15 May 2010, 09:12:23
Monaco GP, may get some rain tomorrow  :y

i was watching some of the practice sessions the last few days and Kubica and Hamilton were awesome - flicking out the back and kissing the barriers on exits - brilliant stuff - those 2 to qualify first and second  ;)

what was it Nigel Mansell said about how you get pole at Monaco? "scrub the paint off the tyres" good for qualy, won't last the race tho  :-/
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Chris_H on 15 May 2010, 10:07:08
Monaco is the closest to slot-car racing you'll see away from the ovals. :D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: TheBoy on 15 May 2010, 10:17:08
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Monaco GP, may get some rain tomorrow  :y

i was watching some of the practice sessions the last few days and Kubica and Hamilton were awesome - flicking out the back and kissing the barriers on exits - brilliant stuff - those 2 to qualify first and second  ;)

what was it Nigel Mansell said about how you get pole at Monaco? "scrub the paint off the tyres" good for qualy, won't last the race tho  :-/
Sadly with today's mob, that will mean non stop safety car.  Anything to prevent any kind of excitement...
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Chris_H on 15 May 2010, 11:13:17
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Monaco GP, may get some rain tomorrow  :y

i was watching some of the practice sessions the last few days and Kubica and Hamilton were awesome - flicking out the back and kissing the barriers on exits - brilliant stuff - those 2 to qualify first and second  ;)

what was it Nigel Mansell said about how you get pole at Monaco? "scrub the paint off the tyres" good for qualy, won't last the race tho  :-/
Sadly with today's mob, that will mean non stop safety car.  Anything to prevent any kind of excitement...
Monaco's a circuit you have to be brave to even race round let alone pass.  Hamilton is making some noises about taking risks so he might be good to watch.

Alonso has already wiped the RHS off his car in practice so that bodes well for the race as he might miss qualifying and have to start from the back.

I'm not trying to convert you TB.  I know where you're coming from but I can still enjoy most of the F1 races.

On the subject of enjoying races, I struggle to enjoy anything that happens at Rockingham.  Does anyone else share that view?
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 29 May 2010, 12:27:21
Istanbul - my favourite "new" track and easily Hermann Tilkes best (tho thats not too difficult) anyway should be good - massive quad-apex turn 8 that everyone bangs on about - but it will be interesting on cold tyres and full fuel loads, plenty of overtaking opportunities throughout the circuit - watching qualy at work and looking forward to the race  - Red Bulls should take pole/2nd but theyre not the most powerful cars and on the long back "straight" (its kinked) could be vulnerable in the race :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: tunnie on 29 May 2010, 13:02:35
ha, like the spin by Shumy on that last lap, where was that dire hard fan when you want to take mick  ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 29 May 2010, 13:04:44
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ha, like the spin by Shumy on that last lap, where was that dire hard fan when you want to take mick  ;D

good to see him pushing it and he's bettered rosberg at last - nearly everyones come a cropper on turn 8 tho  :o
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 May 2010, 21:10:10
Enjoyed todays race the bits I saw, specialy the red bull  ::) overtake and then the Mclaren overtake.  :o

Best overtake challenge for a while though.  :y

Not gonna mention the result for those that have not seen it.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 30 May 2010, 21:25:32
anyone not wanting to know the result is unlikely to open an F1 thread surely skruntie? :-?

thats the point of it  ;D ;D

well done %$££ ^%&$££, great win for me as i had a fiver on you  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 May 2010, 21:28:34
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anyone not wanting to know the result is unlikely to open an F1 thread surely skruntie? :-?

thats the point of it  ;D ;D

well done %$££ ^%&$££, great win for me as i had a fiver on you  :y

I agree, but I did once post my thoughts on an F1 race when I 1st joined and jamie altered the tittle and told me off.   ::) :-/  So I aint doing it again.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 30 May 2010, 21:30:18
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anyone not wanting to know the result is unlikely to open an F1 thread surely skruntie? :-?

thats the point of it  ;D ;D

well done %$££ ^%&$££, great win for me as i had a fiver on you  :y

A gifted result though, they were no where near him before the ^^£%£$" )(**&%
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: STMO999 on 30 May 2010, 21:33:29
There are no more highlights on tonight, so it's ok to say that Vettel won it.
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 30 May 2010, 22:01:52
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anyone not wanting to know the result is unlikely to open an F1 thread surely skruntie? :-?

thats the point of it  ;D ;D

well done %$££ ^%&$££, great win for me as i had a fiver on you  :y

A gifted result though, they were no where near him before the ^^£%£$" )(**&%

gifted result? yes, but it was %^$£&'s impatience, coupled with %^&%$'s refusal to give way that led to ^&*%^%$& leading, until his team mate, ^&^%^& tried to take him and got bitch-slapped by team orders, presumably from ^&%$$^& :y :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 30 May 2010, 22:06:49
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anyone not wanting to know the result is unlikely to open an F1 thread surely skruntie? :-?

thats the point of it  ;D ;D

well done %$££ ^%&$££, great win for me as i had a fiver on you  :y

I agree, but I did once post my thoughts on an F1 race when I 1st joined and jamie altered the tittle and told me off.   ::) :-/  So I aint doing it again.

exactly - its not in the title so its fair game - if you dont want to know the result, you have no business opening an F1 thread  :y


Nice 1,2 McLaren, Hammy drove the nuts off that car to stay in touch with the Red Bulls - pity they argued with each other before the end of the race - I'd be gutted if I was Webber - what the fek was Vettel thinking? "I'll just nudge him out the way, I'm the no.1 driver....he'll move over?"  sorry vettel, but aussies rarely, if ever, back down m8  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 31 May 2010, 01:26:14
Interestingly, Christian Horner in his later interview seemed to have changed his tune and seemed to be pinning the blame on Webber. :o :o
Eddie Jordan was so bemused and annoyed he was almosr lost for words. If the team are backing Vettel it can only mean that he is the favoured driver who they want to hang on to more than webber. Wouldnt be surprised if Webber moves teams at the end of the season, after Horners comments. :-/
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 31 May 2010, 01:30:32
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Interestingly, Christian Horner in his later interview seemed to have changed his tune and seemed to be pinning the blame on Webber. :o :o
Eddie Jordan was so bemused and annoyed he was almosr lost for words. If the team are backing Vettel it can only mean that he is the favoured driver who they want to hang on to more than webber. Wouldnt be surprised if Webber moves teams at the end of the season, after Horners comments. :-/

i think you're right albs, vettel's definitely the golden boy in the team, dangerous game to play this early in the season as webber wont give a &^%* for team orders if he sees them playing favourites  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: albitz on 31 May 2010, 01:43:01
Agreed, and whats more he is leading the championship so should have the full backing of the team. He should also be able to pick up a decent drive next season if he has to after his performance so far this year.
I think Vettels move came from desperation tbh, its beginners stuff in single seaters, you dont get your front wheel in between another cars wheels, it usually ends in tears, he should have known better, and been man enough to admit his mistake afterwards. I lost all respect for him today.
Another Scumacher in the making ?
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Chris_H on 31 May 2010, 09:03:30
I haven't heard why Webber lost so much speed to let Vettel alongside.  Did he miss a gear or what?

There certainly wasn't much room on the track for Vettel and although his car veered into Webber's, I couldn't see his steering wheel move.  Perhaps it was too small a movement?
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Banjax on 31 May 2010, 11:50:32
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I haven't heard why Webber lost so much speed to let Vettel alongside.  Did he miss a gear or what?

There certainly wasn't much room on the track for Vettel and although his car veered into Webber's, I couldn't see his steering wheel move.  Perhaps it was too small a movement?

it seems Webber was asked to take it easy on his engine, while Vettel wasn't given the same instructions.........make of that what you will  ::)

as for the incident, i think webber did the right thing - stayed straight and gave vettel just nough space - then vettel moved right, into webber, assuming webber would move out of his way - which he doesnt need to or should - and didnt  :y
Title: Re: 2010 Formula One Season
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 31 May 2010, 15:43:21
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I haven't heard why Webber lost so much speed to let Vettel alongside.  Did he miss a gear or what?

There certainly wasn't much room on the track for Vettel and although his car veered into Webber's, I couldn't see his steering wheel move.  Perhaps it was too small a movement?

it seems Webber was asked to take it easy on his engine, while Vettel wasn't given the same instructions.........make of that what you will  ::)

as for the incident, i think webber did the right thing - stayed straight and gave vettel just nough space - then vettel moved right, into webber, assuming webber would move out of his way - which he doesnt need to or should - and didnt  :y

Thought they were both asked to conserve fuel, Maclaren gave the same instrucrions to thier drivers.  Not that hamilton paid attention  :-/