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Title: Very early M1.
Post by: Amigo on 01 June 2010, 21:59:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZQ4xqQJCM&NR=1
  I thought the first stretch of motorway was the M6 in Lancashire but could be wrong! ::)
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: CaptainZok on 01 June 2010, 22:01:04
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZQ4xqQJCM&NR=1
  I thought the first stretch of motorway was the M6 in Lancashire but could be wrong! ::)
The Preston bypass which later became part of the M6 as far as I know.
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 June 2010, 22:02:46
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khZQ4xqQJCM&NR=1
  I thought the first stretch of motorway was the M6 in Lancashire but could be wrong! ::)

Ist stretch of motorway and 1st full length motorway are 2 different things though.
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: Peachy on 01 June 2010, 22:11:46
I asked a good friend of mine this and he said M1, so I checked on Tinternet and it was indeed the Preston Bypass.
Sort of a trick question in my opinion, but as sure as eggs is eggs (and I know my eggs) it was the Preston Bypass.
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: eddie on 01 June 2010, 22:16:22
Went up/down the M1 when it first opened,on the back of my Dads 350cc Matchless-Sh__t myself when He turned round and showed me the speedo--100mph!  I was 12,too young to die. :o

eddie
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 June 2010, 22:21:55
That is a fascinating piece of history 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 01 June 2010, 22:22:49
Was it 1972 they introduced the 70mph limit, as cars were using it as a personal test track.
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: eddie on 01 June 2010, 22:51:22
Q: When was the 70 mph motorway speed limit introduced in Britain?

A: The 70 mph National Speed Limit was introduced as a temporary measure in December 1965. It is often blamed on Barbara Castle, but at the time the Minister of Transport was Tom Fraser.

The reason given was a spate of serious accidents in foggy conditions, but it is often claimed that the MoT had been alarmed by AC Cars testing their latest Cobra on the M1 at speeds up to 180 mph.

It was confirmed as a permanent limit in 1967, by which time Barbara Castle (a non-driver) had become Minister of Transport.There was surprisingly little debate at the time: the fact that the average family car of the time could only just exceed 70 mph perhaps had something to do with this.

It should be noted that this limit applied to all previously "derestricted" roads, not only motorways.

From http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/faq.html

eddie
Title: Re: Very early M1.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 02 June 2010, 10:13:47
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Q: When was the 70 mph motorway speed limit introduced in Britain?

A: The 70 mph National Speed Limit was introduced as a temporary measure in December 1965. It is often blamed on Barbara Castle, but at the time the Minister of Transport was Tom Fraser.

The reason given was a spate of serious accidents in foggy conditions, but it is often claimed that the MoT had been alarmed by AC Cars testing their latest Cobra on the M1 at speeds up to 180 mph.

It was confirmed as a permanent limit in 1967, by which time Barbara Castle (a non-driver) had become Minister of Transport.There was surprisingly little debate at the time: the fact that the average family car of the time could only just exceed 70 mph perhaps had something to do with this.

It should be noted that this limit applied to all previously "derestricted" roads, not only motorways.

From http://www.speedlimit.org.uk/faq.html

eddie


Good historical information there Eddie :y :y

Must not forget the fuel crisis in the early seventies that led to:

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1974: New speed limit to curb fuel use
British drivers must adhere to reduced speed limits from midnight tonight as the government tries to save fuel.

Speed limits on motorways will remain 70mph (112kph), but on dual carriageways they will become 60mph (96kph), and on all other roads 50mph (80kph).

Motorists could previously drive up to a limit of 70mph.

Anyone breaking the new restrictions will be reported, though not necessarily summoned.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/december/15/newsid_2559000/2559807.stm

These limits were a little frustrating at the time, but the queues we had to join to get a limited amount of fuel were horrendous!  I was driving a company Escort Mk1 on business across the south east, and I struggled to fill up the tank, so on motorways I certainly kept my speed / fuel consumption down! :(

 :) :)