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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: mantahatch on 02 June 2010, 14:06:23
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Oh dear.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/10214661.stm
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aye, just been reading about it, sounds nasty, and in the lakes too!
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It seems to happen every so many years sadly. There are an increasing number of very stressed people mixed in with the population.
Hopefully the perpetrator will be caught before more bloodshed occurs.
Thoughts and prayers are with the bereaved; some of whom may not know yet. :(
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police have just found a body which they think is the gunman
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RIP for the victims of this terrible affair :'( :'(
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It is now being reported as 12 dead and 25 wounded!! :'( :'( :'(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
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.....12 dead and 25 wounded.....
:o Oh dear Lord! :'(
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Hungerford all over again. :( :'(.......he even went back home and shot his own mother.
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Hungerford all over again. :( :'(.......he even went back home and shot his own mother.
no he didnt, police confirm she is ok.
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News channels got it wrong then. :-/
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been watching sky news,they said earlier his mother was at first reported to have been shot,but the police later said she hadnt
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been watching sky news,they said earlier his mother was at first reported to have been shot,but the police later said she hadnt
Fox said she had, then she hadn't, then she had.
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
Americanisation.
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
Americanisation.
I was looking for a more deeper explanation STMO!! There must be a more psychological explanation to all this? Firearms are not freely available to all and sundry here in this country???? ::) ::)
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
Americanisation.
I was looking for a more deeper explanation STMO!! There must be a more psychological explanation to all this? Firearms are not freely available to all and sundry here in this country???? ::) ::)
Why have there been numerous cases of men trying to slaughter nursery children in China? Why did 10 workers commit suicide at a honda plant?
I try not to think too hard........
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
Dunblane is local to me and i knew the man who killed those innocent children, His name was Thomas Hamilton
His motive was revenge on the community as he felt he had been persecuted by the public.
As a child i had attended his club " Dunblane boys club" until my father found out who was running it and stopped me going.
The reason my father gave me was that Thomas Hamilton had been encouraging young boys to do things like remove their tops on camping trips and had made boys sleep in his camper van , while he was never charged with anything it was deemed inappropriate behaviour and with questional moral intentions and many parents unhappy with Hamiltons conduct.
Doug
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
Americanisation.
I was looking for a more deeper explanation STMO!! There must be a more psychological explanation to all this? Firearms are not freely available to all and sundry here in this country???? ::) ::)
Why have there been numerous cases of men trying to slaughter nursery children in China? Why did 10 workers commit suicide at a honda plant?
I try not to think too hard........
You do that so well. ;D
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Terrible tragedy! Of course we had the horrendous shooting of children in Dunblane many years ago. And the drive-by shooting in Hungerford. Don't really know what is happening to this country these past few years. :'(
Americanisation.
I was looking for a more deeper explanation STMO!! There must be a more psychological explanation to all this? Firearms are not freely available to all and sundry here in this country???? ::) ::)
Why have there been numerous cases of men trying to slaughter nursery children in China? Why did 10 workers commit suicide at a honda plant?
I try not to think too hard........
You do that so well. ;D
Thank you Chris...I think :-/
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its a way of life these days,guns are everywhere even corrie..i agree with steve and americanisation
it seems normal these days to pop a cork in someones ass
RIP THOSE INNOCENT SOULS
and let bird rot in hell
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I notice on the news that the Queen has expressed her sympathies, nothing from the Prime Minister though...... :-X
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I notice on the news that the Queen has expressed her sympathies, nothing from the Prime Minister though...... :-X
He did express his sympathies at PMQs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10206840.stm
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..... nothing from the Prime Minister though...... :-X
You're just not paying attention Mike! ;) ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10218157.stm
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I am sad to report that I posted this at 14.06 today. and by 14.34 we received the first jokes about it. :(
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I notice on the news that the Queen has expressed her sympathies, nothing from the Prime Minister though...... :-X
He did express his sympathies at PMQs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10206840.stm
I stand corrected, why no mention on the news :-/
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Just read that a woman and a man and a child found dead in a house somewhere. What is this country coming to?
I think ALL guns should be banned. Even for farmers, there is no legitimate reason to own one.
Gun clubs, ban them, they serve no purpose.
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Have you noticed that so many of these gun rampages are committed by "loners"? I suppose if they were living with close family their behaviour may ring alarm bells before they completely flip.
To me, it's a sign of serious mental breakdown, which is sadly all too prevalent in today's society. :( :(
Needless to say, I feel for the victims and their families. :'(
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Just read that a woman and a man and a child found dead in a house somewhere. What is this country coming to?
I think ALL guns should be banned. Even for farmers, there is no legitimate reason to own one.
Gun clubs, ban them, they serve no purpose.
They are already effectively banned from a legal point of view. But, as everyone surely knows, banning does not shut off the supply. :(
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In fact, in 2007, the UK was only ranked 29th in terms of gun ownership per resident. There are a number of countries above us (e.g Germany, Switzerland) that have far more guns yet have not suffered the same amount of gun crime. The answer to our problems lies elsewhere, I rather feel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
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No point banning guns imo.Guns dont kill people, people kill people. If someone is determined to kill, they can use any number of items as a weapon, including a car. ;)
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I was watching this on the news earlier, there was a documentary team filming for 'Helicopter Heroes' and it showed a little bit of footage of the dead bodies lying around and the air ambulanceman confirming the deaths of two of the casualties. Sobering stuff, it could have been any of us walking innocently along...
Jon
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In fact, in 2007, the UK was only ranked 29th in terms of gun ownership per resident. There are a number of countries above us (e.g Germany, Switzerland) that have far more guns yet have not suffered the same amount of gun crime. The answer to our problems lies elsewhere, I rather feel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
WOAH! there - guns are illegal in this country - why are we only 29th in this list ?
we need to double-ban-cross-my-heart-ban guns :(
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In fact, in 2007, the UK was only ranked 29th in terms of gun ownership per resident. There are a number of countries above us (e.g Germany, Switzerland) that have far more guns yet have not suffered the same amount of gun crime. The answer to our problems lies elsewhere, I rather feel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_gun_ownership
WOAH! there - guns are illegal in this country - why are we only 29th in this list ?
we need to double-ban-cross-my-heart-ban guns :(
its only handguns that are banned as far as i know - shotguns and rifles can still be owned with licences :(
banning all guns wouldnt end gun crime, but it would take more guns out of circulation - only vets, pest controllers, police and armed forces need guns - other than that - why would you need a lethal weapon? for fun?
the flipside, and where i have a dilema is a blanket ban would inevitably drive more guns underground and away from police control (a neighbour keeps shotguns and rifles for pheasant and clay pidgeon shooting - and i know he's regularly checked, i'll ask him next time i see him how often and how stringent the checks are) so do you want guns outlawed so the police know nothing about who's got them........criminals will always have guns illegally in either case. you cant make a knee jerk law because of a lone nutter :o
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Class A drugs are "banned", but addicts can still get their fix. From what I have read, handguns can be bought if you have the right connections. The same would be true, no doubt, if they banned rifles & shotguns. :(
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AFAIK guns are used for providing game in our shops. I also don't see any reason for banning the sport just because I don't happen to enjoy it.
At present on the news, money appears to be part of the root cause of this outrage.
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At the end of the day we are never going to stop this kind of thing happening if some one is intent on doing such things then no one will be able to stop them and he could of used anything to kill these people. But i must say if this was in one of the towns in America where every one carries a gun how far would this guy of got with out being shot him self?
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Agreed. Its horrific and tragic but it is something which cant be stopped. Guns have always been prevelant in rural communities and they need to be in order to control numbers of animals. And high powered rifles are needed as it would be cruel in the extreme to use a low powered weapon to despatch a large animal such as a Deer, you need to have a good chance of a clean instant kill.
Maybe one day we will be able to understand and prevent people becoming unhinged and acting in this way, but until we do, these terrible random acts will continue to shock and sadden on thankfully rare occasions such as this. :(
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Can I say, (as a long time Sporting gun enthusiast) that we are checked up on regularly, most of the inspectors know us well, we are not allowed to keep excessive amounts of ammunition, and where we go and what we do is stringently regulated.
HANDGUNS are prohibited, but we are allowed rifles and shotguns, but with a lot of clauses for ownership. We have to prove cause for use and ownership, and in a lot of cases, belong to a serious club too.
We can be inspected at any time, with or without our permission by the police or the inspectorate, and our weapons are securely locked away at all times.
99% of us are sensible, responsible individuals, who completely agree with the law, and use their weapons to put meat on the table, or little holes in targets at a licenced club facility. the other 1%...............................is what gives us all a bad name.
Mike.
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And a total ban on firearms wouldnt solve the problem of the other 1%, it would simply increase prices on the black market. :y
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At the end of the day we are never going to stop this kind of thing happening if some one is intent on doing such things then no one will be able to stop them and he could of used anything to kill these people. But i must say if this was in one of the towns in America where every one carries a gun how far would this guy of got with out being shot him self?
happens all the time in the states, and the only reason people carry guns is to defend themselves and their homes - they'll most likely run than use a gun in a case like this
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Correct. EXACTLY what it did for handguns when they were first banned. You can still buy a handgun with ammo anywhere dodgy for as little as £50................! (or less!!!)