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Title: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 19:24:32
Is that clean enough?
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Banjax on 02 June 2010, 19:28:48
its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: hotel21 on 02 June 2010, 19:28:48
No.... Sorry....
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 June 2010, 19:43:42
What has happened to this thread?.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Banjax on 02 June 2010, 20:13:30
must have been removed - lame, racist joke - you didn't miss anything  :o
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: sexydaz on 02 June 2010, 20:22:52
come on >:(

yer could pm me it if yer want ::)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 20:25:35
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its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o


What a horrible thought ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: sexydaz on 02 June 2010, 20:27:51
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its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o


What a horrible thought ;D
why,does it bring back memories of when you were in your forties ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 20:28:26
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its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o


What a horrible thought ;D
why,does it bring back memories of when you were in your forties ;D


Yes. Before I had the operation.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: sexydaz on 02 June 2010, 20:31:58
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its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o


What a horrible thought ;D
why,does it bring back memories of when you were in your forties ;D


Yes. Before I had the operation.
is it true with that op that they use the appendage from a badger
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 20:37:32
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its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o


What a horrible thought ;D
why,does it bring back memories of when you were in your forties ;D


Yes. Before I had the operation.
is it true with that op that they use the appendage from a badger


And also the badger's nadgers. ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: sexydaz on 02 June 2010, 20:45:25
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its like having a female version of STMO...but from 30 years ago  :o


What a horrible thought ;D
why,does it bring back memories of when you were in your forties ;D


Yes. Before I had the operation.
is it true with that op that they use the appendage from a badger


And also the badger's nadgers. ;D
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 21:34:08
I wonder if this joke would have been deleted if it had been an Irish Joke?
I somehow doubt it.
Tell a joke about the Welsh    that is ok
Tell a joke about the Irish      that is ok
Tell a joke about the English   that is ok
Tell a joke about the Scottish that is ok
Tell a joke about any other nation and you are a racist
Beyond the bounds of reality if you ask me.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 21:36:27
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I wonder if this joke would have been deleted if it had been an Irish Joke?
I somehow doubt it.
Tell a joke about the Welsh    that is ok
Tell a joke about the Irish      that is ok
Tell a joke about the English   that is ok
Tell a joke about the Scottish that is ok
Tell a joke about any other nation and you are a racist
Beyond the bounds of reality if you ask me.


We're not interested in the opinions of a mad Taff.


Is it OK to say that? ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 21:37:35
Thats OK Steve.
But keep it within the British Isles or you will get deleted.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: sexydaz on 02 June 2010, 21:40:58
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Thats OK Steve.
But keep it within the British Isles or you will get deleted.
so Di if you got a laptop and a dongle and went to rhyl hired a boat and sat in it you could tell us all the jokes you want :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 21:42:26
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Thats OK Steve.
But keep it within the British Isles or you will get deleted.


I think you'd probably get away with mainland europe :y ;D


Dem Germens bombed our chippy yer know. ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 21:42:40
Last time I checked Rhyl was in the boundaries of the Great British Isles. Or am I incorrect and having a blonde moment.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 21:43:28
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Thats OK Steve.
But keep it within the British Isles or you will get deleted.
so Di if you got a laptop and a dongle and went to rhyl hired a boat and sat in it you could tell us all the jokes you want :y


Di's not allowed a dongle. Not after what she did with the last one :o
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2010, 21:52:44
Constant insulting/degenerating other races/religions/peoples is a pretty desperate form of humour  :-/

Added to that, jokes are better if they are funny the first time around - they stand a chance of still raising a smile when they get regurgitated on internet sites such as this one for the millionth time ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: sexydaz on 02 June 2010, 21:58:35
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Last time I checked Rhyl was in the boundaries of the Great British Isles. Or am I incorrect and having a blonde moment.
i just meant like duty free when your not on land your not on a british isle or am i wrong and having a blonde moment :)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 21:59:58
I think you need to be 12 miles out. I think.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 02 June 2010, 22:01:42
TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 22:04:10
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)

I agree. I remember someones avatar containing boobs,  did I run to admin, no, I did not. A case of if your face fits me thinks.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2010, 22:04:32
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Someone did  :'(

Personally, I think pikeys are fair game, seeing as they are thieving, shitty scum...
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 02 June 2010, 22:04:49
I liked my old avatar, but people took it personal like ;D

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n156/stmo987/images.jpg)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 22:06:18
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Someone did  :'(

Personally, I think pikeys are fair game, seeing as they are thieving, shitty scum...

Is that not racist? I agree with the content, but still racist in my opinion.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2010, 22:07:45
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A case of if your face fits me thinks.
If thats what you truely think, I think you may be deluded or paranoid.

Now I don't know you, other than your online persona, but you don't come across as either, so I will just privately assume sour grapes  :-X

 :-*  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2010, 22:09:27
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Someone did  :'(

Personally, I think pikeys are fair game, seeing as they are thieving, shitty scum...

Is that not racist? I agree with the content, but still racist in my opinion.
Yup, and I think I have broken the rules, and expect to get reprimanded for it  :-[
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 02 June 2010, 22:10:00
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Someone did  :'(

Personally, I think pikeys are fair game, seeing as they are thieving, shitty scum...
Should have told them to bugger off and go read the Guardian website instead. ;D ;D
I think their fair game too, but they are a very protected species these days, like any group of people who con the powers that be into classifying them as a minority - its positive discrimination all the way after that - one big p155 take imo. ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 02 June 2010, 22:10:51
I think I may be deluded, gotta agree there, or why would I keep winding up THE Boy.
And after all is said and done I am winding you up.
I did try and clean the original joke up, but I just did not find it racist.
If it had said P_ _ _ I could have understood.
Appologies, and to be honest I expected my name in PINK hours ago. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D, would match the Bra and Knickers I am NOT wearing right now :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 02 June 2010, 22:19:12
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Speaking as a moderator, rather than personally, the problem we have, seeing as the General Chat area seems to have turned into an area for tired, old, poor, lame, pointless, naff jokes.

I think we are at a real, critical tipping point now. Either OOF continues as the old, family friendly site, with that unique OOF 'spirit'. Or it degenerates into 'The Shed' from another site - getting away from that pointless mentality was precisely the reason OOF was set up.

Again, speaking as a moderator, OOF members need to decide where they want the future of the site to head towards, assuming OOF has a future.


Speaking personally, I think OOF is badly broken, the 'light touch' moderating that used to work so well has been almost abandonned due to an increasing number of members constantly pushing to see what they can get away with (like children  >:(), taking up an excessive amount of moderating time that the mods give up freely to ensure this place runs. I hope to have a face to face discussion with those attending the Lakes meet to canvas where the members want the future of OOF head. Or decide if OOF has a future.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 02 June 2010, 22:35:17
TBH, with one or two exceptions I dont see people pushing the boundaries that much. :-/
Even STMO isnt as pig ignorant as he used to be ;D ;D
I hope the discussion at the lakes meet will take place before the numerous cases of wife beater are unloaded from the boot of the Mig. ;) :D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: hotel21 on 02 June 2010, 22:41:10
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Speaking as a moderator, rather than personally, the problem we have, seeing as the General Chat area seems to have turned into an area for tired, old, poor, lame, pointless, naff jokes.

I think we are at a real, critical tipping point now. Either OOF continues as the old, family friendly site, with that unique OOF 'spirit'. Or it degenerates into 'The Shed' from another site - getting away from that pointless mentality was precisely the reason OOF was set up.

Again, speaking as a moderator, OOF members need to decide where they want the future of the site to head towards, assuming OOF has a future.


Speaking personally, I think OOF is badly broken, the 'light touch' moderating that used to work so well has been almost abandonned due to an increasing number of members constantly pushing to see what they can get away with (like children  >:(), taking up an excessive amount of moderating time that the mods give up freely to ensure this place runs. I hope to have a face to face discussion with those attending the Lakes meet to canvas where the members want the future of OOF head. Or decide if OOF has a future.
You beat me to it....

I listen to inane drivel at work where tired old gollywog/chinky/paki/white honky etc etc type 'jokes' keep on being trotted out, despite most being older than the yoof telling them.

Yup, I'm a tired bored and boring old fart.  Yup, I enjoy a laugh and a giggle but like to have a sanctuary where such crap does not intervene.

If I wanted to re-re-re-re-read tired old jokes that were barely amusing in the days of Love thy Neighbour (not  ::) ) then I would visit A.N.Other Vauxhall orientated web forum where just about anything goes - both content and language used.

Like TB says, the wheel has come off the bike on here big time and I seriously worry about the road OOF is heading, given the juvenile mindset of some of the most vociferous on here, despite subtle hints and nudges that such behaviour is not what its about......
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 02 June 2010, 22:43:24
TBH, badly broken seems a bit strong to me, but I wasnt here from the start, so I could be part of the problem without  realising. :-/
I do think it has changed in the time I have been here, although I also think it has been a bit better recently, but  not what it used to be.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Steve 1564 on 02 June 2010, 23:04:59
Ok lets see if i can get away with this one....

"Driving past the Mosque in Bristol on friday...
... Couldn't help noticing all the pairs of shoes lined up outside,
and shouts of glee comming from within.....
... The only conclusion I could come to is...

.... Is there a great big Bouncy Castle inside ?



PS what's a Fatw[ch257] ?
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Banjax on 02 June 2010, 23:05:26
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Someone did  :'(

Personally, I think pikeys are fair game, seeing as they are thieving, shitty scum...
Should have told them to bugger off and go read the Guardian website instead. ;D ;D
I think their fair game too, but they are a very protected species these days, like any group of people who con the powers that be into classifying them as a minority - its positive discrimination all the way after that - one big p155 take imo. ;)

nah - the Grauniad's gone downhill - it's mainly the Independent now  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 02 June 2010, 23:29:56
Getting back to the point,maybe we should all have a read of gen discussion about five hundred pages back to try to work out what is different and why ? :-/
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: BigAl on 03 June 2010, 00:51:26
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Speaking as a moderator, rather than personally, the problem we have, seeing as the General Chat area seems to have turned into an area for tired, old, poor, lame, pointless, naff jokes.

I think we are at a real, critical tipping point now. Either OOF continues as the old, family friendly site, with that unique OOF 'spirit'. Or it degenerates into 'The Shed' from another site - getting away from that pointless mentality was precisely the reason OOF was set up.

Again, speaking as a moderator, OOF members need to decide where they want the future of the site to head towards, assuming OOF has a future.


Speaking personally, I think OOF is badly broken, the 'light touch' moderating that used to work so well has been almost abandonned due to an increasing number of members constantly pushing to see what they can get away with (like children  >:(), taking up an excessive amount of moderating time that the mods give up freely to ensure this place runs. I hope to have a face to face discussion with those attending the Lakes meet to canvas where the members want the future of OOF head. Or decide if OOF has a future.
this posts saddens/depresses me - i never thought TB  would put in this position
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: BigAl on 03 June 2010, 01:01:49
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I listen to inane drivel at work where tired old gollywog/chinky/paki/white honky etc etc type 'jokes' keep on being trotted out, despite most being older than the yoof telling them.
I'll stick my head over the parapet here - I tell those "targeted jokes" at work that are funny and get the same back - that works well, as any sign of bullying via joke is stamped on.

But on a forum everyone is a "keyboard warrior" - no-one here knows what colour/size/religion i am
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Terbs on 03 June 2010, 09:53:19
Agree Peachy.....I'm not bothering to post any more....can't see the point.
Forces joke removed....I assume because I forgot to * a letter.
Pathetic as the word concerned is used every day, by just about everyone, females included.
If there is a word that mods think offend...can't they just edit ??
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Pitchfork on 03 June 2010, 10:00:19
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Agree Peachy.....I'm not bothering to post any more....can't see the point.
Forces joke removed....I assume because I forgot to * a letter.
Pathetic as the word concerned is used every day, by just about everyone, females included.
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Moderators (like the majority on the forum) work all day & do not have time to constantly monitor content so it is better that people refrain from posting potentially offensive material. There is a real danger that unless all members act responsibly, that the forum will cease. Profanities are not clever
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: eliteomegaman on 03 June 2010, 11:10:24
Would like to come on as a 'newbie'.  :y

I'd like to think that we should all use a bit of 'sense' before posting things. Unfortunately in this current climate of ours the 'foreigners' are protected beyond belief (and i include ALL minority groups even if they were born here) - case in hand is 'The flying (or should i say the NON flying!!) of the St.George flag - England'.  ::) ::)

There are millions of ex-pats who have moved & living in Spain - will the Spanish ban the Spanish flag from flying during the World Cup in case it upsets the 'foreigners'?? Will they hell & so they shouldn't!!

Getting back to this site i personally think that swear words just need to have an * placed within them so that way everyone knows wot the word is but offence won't be taken. As for racist jokes being posted, all i can say is as long as they are said in a tongue-in-cheek way & are 'jokes' then what's the problem?? Lets face it jokes like this have been around for a long long time.

I've been telling Jewish jokes for the last 40 odd yrs since as a Jew people used to take the mickey out of me  so i thought if you can't beat them join them!

The moderators/adminisrators have got a difficult enough job as it is so if EVERYONE just uses a bit of the old grey matter (i.e. 'would that offend me if i was not of English descendancy/religion') hopefully we can carry on reading 'jokes' and having a giggle. After all there's enough problems happening around the world & its nice to take a break from it!!  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Banjax on 03 June 2010, 11:24:18
if telling unnamusing racist jokes that weren't funny in primary school is what floats your boat then good luck to you - i prefer to think we've evolved from that as a nation and individuals.....but each to their own - seems to be a major issue for the rednecks on here who need to justify their little lives by belittling a person's race, nationality or colour on the grounds of being "not like us"....does that make you all feel better about yourselves? if thats what you need - theres no hope  :o
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Sixstring on 03 June 2010, 11:26:48
TOTALLY AGREE MATE.

However..............

If you are offended by the content of a post, report it, don't just fume and bitch about it, as we all have our different tolerances to profanity and humour.

Personally speaking, I find OOF both pleasureable and informative, and have been in contact with many people who are both humourous and knowledgeable, but have a sharp tongue at times and can sometimes cause offence with their words. This (to me anyway) just shows the diversity of the human race, but totally understand some peoples anger or annoyance at some of the recent posts. This forum is a community of sorts, whether you like it or not, and we all have the ability to make it, or break it. The more people get dissallutioned with OOF and vote with their feet, the worse the problem will get, all the knowledge will go too, and we will decend into the same as every other forum that is full of idiots who just want to post drivel and swear words to see if they are moderated out.
In all my short time here, I have found cameraderie, and genuine affection for the marque that we all originally came together to share our collective knowledge on, and this should always be available for all to share should we need it, not trawl through drivel to find it!
I am not here to profess my opinion or stuff it down anybodys throat, and I apologise if this little rant annoys anybody, but heck- a little thought goes a long way, and tolerance is the mortar that binds all classes, creeds, religions, races, and orientation together in this "melting pot" that is the world.
Stop, Think, Post.   easy.

Thankyou.

Mike.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: eliteomegaman on 03 June 2010, 11:38:57
WOW Mike ..... now that's what i call a post - WELL DONE!!  :y :y :y

Says it all & not in a derogatory way  :y

5 ***** (stars!)  :) :) :)

Andy
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Sixstring on 03 June 2010, 11:41:42
I'm humbled............... :-[
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 03 June 2010, 12:36:26
A couple of years ago the admins and a lot of regular members posted in general chat/discussion on a daily basis. The admins rarely bother these days, and the members who used to frequent gen. disc. although still members dont tend to bother either.
The impression I had a few months ago was that there was far too much talk about global warming etc and this had put people off. Global warming has not been mentioned recently, and with the notable exception of the Israeli thread, politics hasnt been discussed as much lately as it was say 6 months ago.
So, presumably the problem goes deeper, and its obviously a serious one if TB is talking in terms of "if OOF has a future".I can only think that the admins need to spell out very clearly what direction they want this area of the forum to go in and they would probably need to help steer it back in the chosen direction.
If that doesnt work perhaps general discussion should be binned, returning the forum to a car only forum rather than the more general character it currently has.
The other ( more radical option) would be to scale the whole thing down and make it a membership by invitation only type of site - ie strictly for those members who are real omega enthusiasts, with a high level of knowledge etc. This, I would imagine would consist of perhaps 50 people, and altough it would be a shame for the rest of us, it would make the whole thing much more manageable for the admins.
We must bear in mind that the forum exists because they are interested enough to run it. The day they arent interested enough, it wont exist anymore. ;)
Discuss ?
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Sixstring on 03 June 2010, 12:46:23
Also perhaps to bear in mind...........
This is a FREE forum, with no membership fees or charges. SOMEBODY is paying for the hosting, registration, etc etc, so all this abuse/misuse/silly behavior is on somebodys bill.
if this was a subscription based forum (and lots are....) would people who have to pay to post (as such) post such drivel, and if they could be banned/prohibited from reading/posting after they had paid, not think FIRST???
This forum can be read by ANYBODY, whatever age, and there is a moral responsibilty to keep it within the parameters of decency at all times. If it was a "closed forum"then that would be different, cos nobody apart from paid up members could view it.
My neighbour has an 11 year old car mad son who reads this forum, and is really interested in it, but if his mum was to see some of the language he can read..............well, you know.

Just a comment.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: eliteomegaman on 03 June 2010, 13:43:43
I hope & pray that this forum stays up & running as i 'thoroughly' enjoy it  :y :y :y

I certainly wouldn't be adversed to paying a nominal yearly subscription to keep it going.

I've not got that much mechanical knowledge but have owned numerous omega's over the years to at least put in some-kind of input but i do gain knowledge from reading posts from the 'experts'  :y

The general discussion area is by far my favourite as i enjoy chatting but don't particularly like Facebook etc (there's only so much u can say to friends & it's easier using the fone!)

So let's all have a chat, a laugh, a discussion & let's debate BUT to keep within the 'rules'  :y

As Sixstring has just said ....... ''there is a moral responsibilty to keep it within the parameters of decency at all times''  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: cam2502 on 03 June 2010, 14:55:43
if admins arnt happy with certain posts/comments would some sort of yellow/red card or points system work? reach the limit and you get sin binned for a certain amount of time?
just a thought.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: eliteomegaman on 03 June 2010, 14:59:53
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if admins arnt happy with certain posts/comments would some sort of yellow/red card or points system work? reach the limit and you get sin binned for a certain amount of time?just a thought.

I think that's a splendid idea  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Pitchfork on 03 June 2010, 15:24:47
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if admins arnt happy with certain posts/comments would some sort of yellow/red card or points system work? reach the limit and you get sin binned for a certain amount of time?just a thought.

I think that's a splendid idea  :y
But more work for the Admins so is it not owed to them to refrain from the necessity to police bad language/insulting remarks & jokes/unsafe content? That would leave them to keep the site operating smoothly as well as have time to indulge in hobbies or spend with their families
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: jereboam on 03 June 2010, 16:15:36
It's impossible to say where "good taste" ends and "PC gone mad" begins.

Consider Jewish jokes.

We all laugh at the mother dominated boy, the chicken soup, the "priest, rabbi and vicar" stuff, Woody Allen, Mel Brooks and all that schtick.  We don't find the "mean" (i.e. parsimonious) jokes so funny these days, because we've transferred them to the Scots.  And if we dared to portray a Jew as a long-nosed, greasy haired, child-corrupting sociopath we would ouselves be branded as Nazis.  Dickens may have got away with it 150 years ago - he wouldn't try it now.  But his portrayal of Fagin is kind by comparison with Christopher Marlow's Barabas.  And before that the Jews were accused of poisoning wells in the time of the Black Death.

And there we go - jokes to stereotypes to race-hatred in one paragraph.

The moderators can't win, because we all have our own personal lines which we don't like to see crossed.  I got irritated by the black dog joke that got removed, and I expressed my annoyance in the thread.  I could have just as easily pushed the alert button - I presume somebody did, because the joke got removed quite quickly.

The answer has to be light touch moderation, and the users have to say when they don't like the content of a thread, and use the alert button if they feel they have to.  We must all moderate the forum if we want it to continue.  Troublemakers must be stamped on.

Bores, of course, may continue to say what they like - nobody listens anyway. :)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 17:14:22
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I hope & pray that this forum stays up & running as i 'thoroughly' enjoy it  :y :y :y


Agreed  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 June 2010, 17:15:34
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I hope & pray that this forum stays up & running as i 'thoroughly' enjoy it  :y :y :y

I certainly wouldn't be adversed to paying a nominal yearly subscription to keep it going.

I've not got that much mechanical knowledge but have owned numerous omega's over the years to at least put in some-kind of input but i do gain knowledge from reading posts from the 'experts'  :y

The general discussion area is by far my favourite as i enjoy chatting but don't particularly like Facebook etc (there's only so much u can say to friends & it's easier using the fone!)

So let's all have a chat, a laugh, a discussion & let's debate BUT to keep within the 'rules'  :y

As Sixstring has just said ....... ''there is a moral responsibilty to keep it within the parameters of decency at all times''  ;) ;) ;)


Don't even think such a thing... ::) ::) ;)  We would lose all the well respected members from the north and Scotland..... ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 17:19:22
The subscription issue has been discussed before - I don't think admins are in favour and want to keep info freely accessible (in line with the forum's "morals")

I think one of the reasons is not wanting to create different "classes" of members...  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 17:19:40
I've followed this thread. I wasn't going to post on it - but thought I will share my views:


Bear in mind, these are MY OPINIONS ONLY, on how a few improvements MAY be made.



We have 8,225 users. Granted a large number of them are not all that active - but regardless, we still have a considerable number of members. These people will be from a range of backgrounds, upbringings, races and cultures. Frankly, this thread could be 5 pages, or 500 pages - no amount of discussion will ever make everyone share the same views, or allow everyone to live in harmony.

To this end - some only things that we, as a community can do, are:



A) Think before posting. We're ALL, without exception, guilty at some point of posting something we later either regret, or think we could have been much more tactful with.



B) On the flipside, If you read a post which offends you - again, stop and think for a minute. Consider that the poster quite likely did not mean any offence. If, after sensible adult discussion, you cannot reach a solution, and you still want something done about the post you find offensive - tell a mod. They will look into it.



C) If you REALLY feel a post is inappropriate - do one of two things. Firstly - consider a POLITE PM to the poster. It may well be they weren't aware of the impact of their words. You may find they apologise, explain, and rectify. If not - take it up further.



D) Bear in mind, if you post something up the forum, you are INVITING opinions. If, as a result of this, someone posts a reply and perhaps disagrees, or is blunt in what they say - bear in mind that you asked for the replies. Unless someone is being offensive, accept people may not agree with you.



E) While I have no doubt the moderators invite and welcome people's opnions on all aspects of the forum - keep it in mind, that ultimately, their say (and decisions) are final.



F) If you notice someone breaking the rules - for example, postcount cirucmventers.. don't make lengthy threads / replies trying to point out the error of their ways in public. It just fuels the fire of discontent even more. Instead - consider a polite PM, and / or just leave it to the Mods.


Remember, sometimes it is better to let a small "offence" slip under the rug, than create a big fuss, and subsequently all the bad feeling / upset that follows.

I have, on a couple of occasions, seen new threads started by members, solely to alert certain people they've broken a "rule". My personal opinion, especially having seen the results, is that this isn't an acceptable or effective way of addressing such things - and would discourage anyone from doing this.


These are just a few things that have occured to me while thinking about the "situation" and some recent posts.

I don't claim to be a goody goody - I have personally made a number of of the mistakes I have advised against in this very post, as most of us probably have at some time.

But let's not dwell on matters passed... (indeed, that may also be part of the problem)... and try and move on  in the right direction, without any bad feeling  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 03 June 2010, 17:23:01
Quite right young man.
I agree with every word, so does that mean I can keep on posting jokes?
In my job I need them.
Go on James tell me I can, you miserable old git ;D ;D ;D
Only joking sexy.
Oh and in uniform.
Peachy Heaven
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 17:25:47
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Quite right young man.
I agree with every word, so does that mean I can keep on posting jokes?
In my job I need them.
Go on James tell me I can, you miserable old git ;D ;D ;D
Only joking sexy.
Oh and in uniform.
Peachy Heaven

Have you been smoking that stuff again Di?  :D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 03 June 2010, 17:28:42
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Quite right young man.
I agree with every word, so does that mean I can keep on posting jokes?
In my job I need them.
Go on James tell me I can, you miserable old git ;D ;D ;D
Only joking sexy.
Oh and in uniform.
Peachy Heaven

Have you been smoking that stuff again Di?  :D
You should know, you nicked it from the police station for me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 June 2010, 17:28:49
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I've followed this thread. I wasn't going to post on it - but thought I will share my views:


Bear in mind, these are MY OPINIONS ONLY, on how a few improvements MAY be made.



We have 8,225 users. Granted a large number of them are not all that active - but regardless, we still have a considerable number of members. These people will be from a range of backgrounds, upbringings, races and cultures. Frankly, this thread could be 5 pages, or 500 pages - no amount of discussion will ever make everyone share the same views, or allow everyone to live in harmony.

To this end - some only things that we, as a community can do, are:



A) Think before posting. We're ALL, without exception, guilty at some point of posting something we later either regret, or think we could have been much more tactful with.



B) On the flipside, If you read a post which offends you - again, stop and think for a minute. Consider that the poster quite likely did not mean any offence. If, after sensible adult discussion, you cannot reach a solution, and you still want something done about the post you find offensive - tell a mod. They will look into it.



C) If you REALLY feel a post is inappropriate - do one of two things. Firstly - consider a POLITE PM to the poster. It may well be they weren't aware of the impact of their words. You may find they apologise, explain, and rectify. If not - take it up further.



D) Bear in mind, if you post something up the forum, you are INVITING opinions. If, as a result of this, someone posts a reply and perhaps disagrees, or is blunt in what they say - bear in mind that you asked for the replies. Unless someone is being offensive, accept people may not agree with you.



E) While I have no doubt the moderators invite and welcome people's opnions on all aspects of the forum - keep it in mind, that ultimately, their say (and decisions) are final.



F) If you notice someone breaking the rules - for example, postcount cirucmventers.. don't make lengthy threads / replies trying to point out the error of their ways in public. It just fuels the fire of discontent even more. Instead - consider a polite PM, and / or just leave it to the Mods.


Remember, sometimes it is better to let a small "offence" slip under the rug, than create a big fuss, and subsequently all the bad feeling / upset that follows.

I have, on a couple of occasions, seen new threads started by members, solely to alert certain people they've broken a "rule". My personal opinion, especially having seen the results, is that this isn't an acceptable or effective way of addressing such things - and would discourage anyone from doing this.


These are just a few things that have occured to me while thinking about the "situation" and some recent posts.

I don't claim to be a goody goody - I have personally made a number of of the mistakes I have advised against in this very post, as most of us probably have at some time.

But let's not dwell on matters passed... (indeed, that may also be part of the problem)... and try and move on  in the right direction, without any bad feeling  :y

Why does the number of members continue to increase.........when the number of Omega still on the road continues to decrease....day after day...Any ideas?.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 17:30:21
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Quite right young man.
I agree with every word, so does that mean I can keep on posting jokes?
In my job I need them.
Go on James tell me I can, you miserable old git ;D ;D ;D
Only joking sexy.
Oh and in uniform.
Peachy Heaven

Have you been smoking that stuff again Di?  :D
You should know, you nicked it from the police station for me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Damn.... that's my career down the pan  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 03 June 2010, 17:34:50
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Quite right young man.
I agree with every word, so does that mean I can keep on posting jokes?
In my job I need them.
Go on James tell me I can, you miserable old git ;D ;D ;D
Only joking sexy.
Oh and in uniform.
Peachy Heaven

Have you been smoking that stuff again Di?  :D
You should know, you nicked it from the police station for me ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Damn.... that's my career down the pan  ;D
I wish mine was, no only kidding. Just way to many miles.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 03 June 2010, 17:58:45
I agree with everything James says. I would add that I get the impression that the problem isnt just racist jokes or people arguing with each other, but more the general tone and content of genchat which has alienated former regular users. Not trying to lecture anyone, I am probably as guilty as anyone else of contributing to the change in atmosphere.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: STMO999 on 03 June 2010, 18:16:22
I find this all rather sad. Jaime threatening to kill the forum and everyone pontificating about how it should change and how they would have no life without it. ;D

Hello.........it's a car forum.

To save me having to shout at anyone and causing grief, I'm off :-*
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 03 June 2010, 18:29:52
Very sorry to see you go Steve. Imo you are the life and soul of genchat mate. I really hope you change your mind and come back. :'(
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Peachy on 03 June 2010, 18:31:09
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Very sorry to see you go Steve. Imo you are the life and soul of genchat mate. I really hope you change your mind and come back. :'(

He'll be back. We all do. Including KW.
Watch these spaces.........
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 June 2010, 21:38:27
Steve STMO has not really gone has he?...this is just a piss take surely..... :y :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 21:40:45
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Steve STMO has not really gone has he?...this is just a piss take surely..... :y :y

He did once before I believe..
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 June 2010, 21:41:55
Hey, I did it too, I lost about 12,000 posts :D .... is surprising how much you can mellow in a couple of years  8-)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 June 2010, 21:56:07
Well I hope  he returns as he is one of the good guys in my opinion.......and like myself very courteous.....inoffensive and politically correct...I will PM the tosser to see what the problem is. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Del Boy on 03 June 2010, 22:08:01
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I find this all rather sad. Jaime threatening to kill the forum and everyone pontificating about how it should change and how they would have no life without it. ;D

Hello.........it's a car forum.

To save me having to shout at anyone and causing grief, I'm off :-*

Well said that man  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: miggy on 03 June 2010, 22:16:19
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Speaking as a moderator, rather than personally, the problem we have, seeing as the General Chat area seems to have turned into an area for tired, old, poor, lame, pointless, naff jokes.

I think we are at a real, critical tipping point now. Either OOF continues as the old, family friendly site, with that unique OOF 'spirit'. Or it degenerates into 'The Shed' from another site - getting away from that pointless mentality was precisely the reason OOF was set up.

Again, speaking as a moderator, OOF members need to decide where they want the future of the site to head towards, assuming OOF has a future.


Speaking personally, I think OOF is badly broken, the 'light touch' moderating that used to work so well has been almost abandonned due to an increasing number of members constantly pushing to see what they can get away with (like children  >:(), taking up an excessive amount of moderating time that the mods give up freely to ensure this place runs. I hope to have a face to face discussion with those attending the Lakes meet to canvas where the members want the future of OOF head. Or decide if OOF has a future.
You beat me to it....

I listen to inane drivel at work where tired old gollywog/chinky/paki/white honky etc etc type 'jokes' keep on being trotted out, despite most being older than the yoof telling them.

Yup, I'm a tired bored and boring old fart.  Yup, I enjoy a laugh and a giggle but like to have a sanctuary where such crap does not intervene.

If I wanted to re-re-re-re-read tired old jokes that were barely amusing in the days of Love thy Neighbour (not  ::) ) then I would visit A.N.Other Vauxhall orientated web forum where just about anything goes - both content and language used.

Like TB says, the wheel has come off the bike on here big time and I seriously worry about the road OOF is heading, given the juvenile mindset of some of the most vociferous on here, despite subtle hints and nudges that such behaviour is not what its about......

Not that anyone is interested but that is exactly why i dont come on here as much, i can also say that is the reason why other members have faded away, it is a craking site and one of the best forums i have ever been on, the admins do a top job and work hard to keep it going (No i aint licking bottoms, just expressing a fact). Things are slipping slightly and it needs winding in a bit.   
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Del Boy on 03 June 2010, 22:17:51
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TB, I agree about old jokes etc, but we do seem to have become more PC /sensitive on the forum recently.I remember your avatar last year - "break off pikeys", I thought it was hilarious, but I doubt someone would be allowed to have that avatar now, someone would complain - offensive/racist against gypsies/ minorites etc. ;)
Speaking as a moderator, rather than personally, the problem we have, seeing as the General Chat area seems to have turned into an area for tired, old, poor, lame, pointless, naff jokes.

I think we are at a real, critical tipping point now. Either OOF continues as the old, family friendly site, with that unique OOF 'spirit'. Or it degenerates into 'The Shed' from another site - getting away from that pointless mentality was precisely the reason OOF was set up.

Again, speaking as a moderator, OOF members need to decide where they want the future of the site to head towards, assuming OOF has a future.


Speaking personally, I think OOF is badly broken, the 'light touch' moderating that used to work so well has been almost abandonned due to an increasing number of members constantly pushing to see what they can get away with (like children  >:(), taking up an excessive amount of moderating time that the mods give up freely to ensure this place runs. I hope to have a face to face discussion with those attending the Lakes meet to canvas where the members want the future of OOF head. Or decide if OOF has a future.

Now, it'll be a sad day if there isn't a future for OOF, but within the past 6 months everyone knows it deep down that OOF isn't half of what it used to be, and that is down too everyone on here myself included. There are so many differing opinions now, people who cannot take a joke, people who can't grasp the fact that others are going to have differing opinions. This isn't just a place you can come to now to have a good chat etc, I can't help but come on here and get stressed sometimes. This was a brilliant place to be, but it just isn't anymore. In fact that's as far as I'm going to go on this subject, I seriously think Steve has the right idea  :-/
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: albitz on 03 June 2010, 22:21:17
I think it might be a good idea if some of the people who avoid this area of the forum nowadays were to post up exactly why they dont like it anymore. It might cause some pain and grief, but surely thats bette than everyone going round in circles and getting nowhere. :-/
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 03 June 2010, 22:31:48
Some interesting points made and one big one missed.


Steve, sad you gone matey, I howl with laughter at times at some of your comments, but to a new member when all said and done you dont come accross that much different in attitude to killerwatt, but in all honestty I would prefer you both on the forum.

There is not a lot wrong with the forum at all, the problems are the new attidues that are developing in this thread - General Chat, as a help forum there is no better. Global warming and politics, I dont really care for these, or the bus thread for that matter, but other's do, and thats fine by me.

Jokes, yes, getting tedious as they are all reruns, I have stopped posting mine as a lot of them were getting reposted by others a few weeks later.

General chat is still fun untill the stirring gets out of hand and the pee taking has gone past being funny now to be less than childish.

There have been 2 members on here that I hoped I had a say in for them coming back to the forum, and in all fairness one of them talked me into staying when I decided I was going to leave.  Hence the reason I dont post any where near the ammount of replies i USED TO.

IT WOULD BE A SAD DAY IF THE FORUM WAS EVER CLOSED

BUT SADLY IT WOULD BE YOUR OWN FAULTS IF EVER IT DOES.

SO YOU DECIDE IT'S FUTURE BY EVERY POST YOU MAKE

BUT DO ME A FAVOUR - DONT F^^K IT UP FOR ME,
 I WOULD LIKE TO STAY PLEASE.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 03 June 2010, 22:34:34
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I think it might be a good idea if some of the people who avoid this area of the forum nowadays were to post up exactly why they dont like it anymore. It might cause some pain and grief, but surely thats bette than everyone going round in circles and getting nowhere. :-/

I think if this section got out of hand it should be turned of for 24 hours and any type of chat regagds it in other sections to be nuked.

You never realise what you got till it's gone.

Act like kids, get treated like kids.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: miggy on 03 June 2010, 22:37:01
Come on Mr Skruntie.....give me some advice on my lowering spring issue in help
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 03 June 2010, 22:44:55
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Come on Mr Skruntie.....give me some advice on my lowering spring issue in help


Ok
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 03 June 2010, 22:51:10
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Come on Mr Skruntie.....give me some advice on my lowering spring issue in help

Sorted.   :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Amigo on 03 June 2010, 23:05:50
I hav'nt been around since the outset of the forum but (first time round) certainly within it's infancy, at least 4 years so as it's grown i've seen it change. I belong to a small classic Ford forum & have "visited " a few others & there's weeks between posts. The Omega must be much more loved than anyone expected attracting countless members of varying personalities all of which lead to an unimaginable workload for the admins who as said have their own lives & personal worries to deal with as well as clean up after the rest of us. How can they be expected to deal with one who is offended at one joke & risk offending another who finds it funny?...You can please some of the people...etc. I've moderated my behavior in recent months ie swearing even with an asterisk & tried to turn the other cheek & not bite, i have calmed down somewhat.
    I'm an 18 stone southerner living up north, imagine the banter i'm left open to on a daily basis. The point is it's all from friends & in fun & i'm not offended in the slightest. I have racist/religious jokes on my phone i'd never dream of posting here & they're hilarious. Race, age size, religion all form part of humour as swearing has it's place & for some of us does not represent the lack of alternative vocabulary. As said i've already moderated my posting but it's a two way street. Some of the more easily offended need to lighten up a little to redress the balance. ~As for Steve i used to find him funny but have grown a little tired of him recently. By no means a stupid man but the gob masked as humour had worn a tad thin for me...i did'nt complain to an admin though, there's the difference. STOP COMPLAINING!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: webby23 on 03 June 2010, 23:23:13
Wow

Just read all this and am shocked

Like others have said, OOF isnt my life but I enjoy my time spent here and would miss it if it went.

Happy to pay a membership if asked to, even if we all paid a quid a year it would be over £8000 towards  the running of the site, that would maybe cover everything if its about money.......?

As for arguing, well, when we were in school (along time  ago!) we soon learnt that if we broke the rules there would be consequences to that, and we discovered it was far easier to just obey the rules.....

I think all the Mods do a top job to keep this site running, I dont think we all understand how demanding it can be for them, so sometimes I think they would be well within their rights to be a little bit stricter with repeat rule breakers and take control of the situation that has developed.

I am as guilty as the next guy for speaking my mind on here, and in turn I respect that others opinions sometimes are totally different to mine, isnt that what the world is about though.....

 :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: doog on 03 June 2010, 23:37:39
FFS dudes  get a grip  Its only an internet forum!!

If it closed down  there are plenty other forums on the internet.
I dont realy come on here for the car chat  infact the main reason for me visiting here is the chit chat from the regulars  including the likes of KW In general chat.

 
I do feel the OOF users should be able to self police after all we are all adults


Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 June 2010, 23:49:00
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I do feel the OOF users should be able to self police after all we are all adults

Not necessarily. Members' children have subscribed in the past, or at least are present when their parents are accessing the forum.

.. and, for the results of self-policing, see the aforementioned shed. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Vamps on 03 June 2010, 23:53:43
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I do feel the OOF users should be able to self police after all we are all adults

Not necessarily. Members' children have subscribed in the past, or at least are present when their parents are accessing the forum.
.. and, for the results of self-policing, see the aforementioned shed. :y

Kevin

This is my only gripe, and not a problem if the NWS warning is used, as promoted by Scruntie, therefore avoiding any sudden closure and questions.. :y
Miss Vamps is a regular watcher of OOF sometimes to the point that I can not type as she cuddles in to by left arm..... :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: eliteomegaman on 04 June 2010, 00:32:43
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FFS dudes  get a grip  Its only an internet forum!!

If it closed down  there are plenty other forums on the internet.
I dont realy come on here for the car chat  infact the main reason for me visiting here is the chit chat from the regulars  including the likes of KW In general chat.

 
I do feel the OOF users should be able to self police after all we are all adults


 

I've been on 'other' sites & to be quite frank they are NOT a patch on OOF  >:(

I thoroughly enjoy coming on here for 'Help' & especially this Discussion Area & in my very short time i've been sent & replied to pm's  :y

So i'm sorry doog i don't agree with u in the slightest but there again that's my privilege  :P ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: The Red Baron on 04 June 2010, 00:40:59
this really is getting all out of hand i think.  :-/
i agree vamps, my kids also like to see whats going on & yes there is stuff that they shouldnt read.
cant we all get a grip with this. :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: tidla on 04 June 2010, 00:44:16
tried the wine fermentors club forum.

you know the colour you get when you mix black and white...
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Vamps on 04 June 2010, 00:49:31
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tried the wine fermentors club forum.

you know the colour you get when you mix black and white...

Sorry, but not sure what you are getting at ... :-[
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: tidla on 04 June 2010, 00:57:47
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tried the wine fermentors club forum.

you know the colour you get when you mix black and white...

Sorry, but not sure what you are getting at ... :-[

grey...
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Broomies Mate on 04 June 2010, 03:12:48
LOL!

If people are worried about what their children see on OOF, then keep them away from the TV... Geez, keep them away from the Playground.

If I were to write my full list of 'naughty' words in this post, I'd wager the average 8 year old could add to it.

I agree to a certain level of censorship, but only on the merit of decorum, not because my 6yr old might go to school and say the word ''dangle berries''.  Afterall, he hears that everytime I work on the car.

Some people need to understand that we live in a real world, and not on the interweb.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: feeutfo on 04 June 2010, 03:31:24
if the BBC acted on every complaint recieved there would bo nothing to broadcast. Not all complaints are justified, some might even complain for personal gain in other walks of life.
 Personaly i think the forum is being massively over policed. Its become sterile and dull as a result, and when other admins have to watch what they say i fear the worst.
 There seems to be a level of hypocracy or a divide in the party line, on the one hand we watch our p's and q's, take the moral high ground, a dim view etc, on the other let rip assuming we are gods gift and above it all. Nobody, but nobody gets it right all the time, we know it, yet here we wingeing on, giving out the rights and wrongs to everyone else. Human nature, deal with it or go away.

 Yes there will always be KW's in the world, and always the over officious, but you cant move forward in an ivory tower, only cut your self off from the outside world. Seems to me anyway. Get involved more and join in rather than lording above us, make your point by example i suppose?


Nothing of interst to me in general chat as a rule, bin it. No help going on.

2pence worth. :-/
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Lazydocker on 04 June 2010, 07:54:58
Blimey... Have 10 days or so of only being able to pop in and look what happens! :o :o :o

As I have said in the past, I don't think OOF is broken. But it was/is a little unwell and we all (and yes, I include myself, admins... Every member) make mistakes/post something a little inappropriate. We just need to (as has been said) think before we post.

TB, please think long and hard about the enormous decision you are contemplating and, if you can, hold off any drastic thoughts until after Newent as well... Then you can canvass other opinions too :y

As for members leaving... It's always sad to lose someone from any group but, TBH, there are times when you just have to think OK... Good Luck. KW and I had a few run ins over time because I felt he was sometimes a bit OTT but I was sad to see him get banned. Not surprised, but sad. STMO leaving (again!) is equally sad.

I have made some good friends through this site, some of whom I've never even met in person. Even SWMBO, although she wouldn't admit it(!), would be sad if this all went pear shaped. After the Essex meet we had 3 people come back to ours and stay the night... A cracking night it was too.  :y I would be very sad if OOF folded because people can't think before they post (and again I refer to all of us!)

Come on guys & gals... Lets put on our long trousers and act like grown ups! We used to have a laugh without upsetting people and the post count culls were always for funny reasons, not because of a serious reason. Perhaps another "Light Hearted" evening is required again, with some funny titles etc... That was a cracking evening's entertainment!

Anyway... I've just got in from a night shift and need my bed as I've got to go to North Yorkshire this afternoon/evening and help my mum take down a conservatory!

My absence lately has nothing to do with the content... Just other commitments getting in the way of OOF :'( :'( If things carry on the way they are (with said commitments) I'm going to need this place to pick me up again!
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Welung666 on 04 June 2010, 09:08:15
I try to stay as middle of the road as I can and as a result very rarely comment on this sort of thread, but I thought I'd just throw my opinion into the mix after a few hours digesting it all.

On another forum for my classic car club, the gen chat had spiralled out of control (a lot worse then here!). After a meeting of the big chiefs a few changes were decided upon. They tightened down the rules, especially on gen. chat, to include no swearing, no racism, etc. and the addition of 4 moderators (making the total 2 admins and 6 moderators) to strictly monitor the whole forum and remove inappropriate items. OK there were a few members that weren't happy as they'd joined during the rough time and didn't like the new stricter rules, some left and some straightened up, but it was such a nice place to be again, as it had been before. I really do understand TB's and the other admins/mods frustration.

I have met so many great people through the OOF and will remain firm friends for many years to come. There are some I haven't met but would still consider them good friends. I'd be lost without my (several) daily fix of the OOF.

And what would I do with the calendars I have left?  ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: feeutfo on 04 June 2010, 11:41:13
hope your not out of pocket Lee, still haven't bought one even though i said i would. :-[

maybe i can get one off TB if i see him?
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: PhilRich on 04 June 2010, 11:48:43
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FFS dudes  get a grip  Its only an internet forum!!

If it closed down  there are plenty other forums on the internet.
I dont realy come on here for the car chat  infact the main reason for me visiting here is the chit chat from the regulars  including the likes of KW In general chat.

 
I do feel the OOF users should be able to self police after all we are all adults


 

I've been on 'other' sites & to be quite frank they are NOT a patch on OOF  >:(

I thoroughly enjoy coming on here for 'Help' & especially this Discussion Area & in my very short time i've been sent & replied to pm's  :y

So i'm sorry doog i don't agree with u in the slightest but there again that's my privilege  :P ;D
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Have to say, I am in full agreement with that! :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Welung666 on 04 June 2010, 13:22:18
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hope your not out of pocket Lee, still haven't bought one even though i said i would. :-[

maybe i can get one off TB if i see him?

They are in the OOF shop Chris ;)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2010, 14:35:05
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Wow

Just read all this and am shocked

Like others have said, OOF isnt my life but I enjoy my time spent here and would miss it if it went.

Happy to pay a membership if asked to, even if we all paid a quid a year it would be over £8000 towards  the running of the site, that would maybe cover everything if its about money.......?

As for arguing, well, when we were in school (along time  ago!) we soon learnt that if we broke the rules there would be consequences to that, and we discovered it was far easier to just obey the rules.....

I think all the Mods do a top job to keep this site running, I dont think we all understand how demanding it can be for them, so sometimes I think they would be well within their rights to be a little bit stricter with repeat rule breakers and take control of the situation that has developed.

I am as guilty as the next guy for speaking my mind on here, and in turn I respect that others opinions sometimes are totally different to mine, isnt that what the world is about though.....

 :y
Its not about the money. Its never been about the money - running costs are something to concern members.  We started this place to be a free site from *ALL* Omega enthusiasts (irrespective of colour/creed/religion/nationality), any thats the way the Admin Team would like it to continue.

Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2010, 15:08:26
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On another forum for my classic car club, the gen chat had spiralled out of control (a lot worse then here!). After a meeting of the big chiefs a few changes were decided upon. They tightened down the rules, especially on gen. chat, to include no swearing, no racism, etc. and the addition of 4 moderators (making the total 2 admins and 6 moderators) to strictly monitor the whole forum and remove inappropriate items. OK there were a few members that weren't happy as they'd joined during the rough time and didn't like the new stricter rules, some left and some straightened up, but it was such a nice place to be again, as it had been before.
Thankyou Welung666, that about sums it up :y


Lets be frank for a moment.  Those that know me will say I swear far too much, particulalry when the rage sets in.  I'm sure you do. I sure the kids do (I certainly did, knowing I'd get a clout from Dad when he heard, despite his bad language).

The problem lies in where that line is drawn.  Is bloody OK, but the F word inappropriate? Then there is the C word? What about calling somebody a W4NKA (I want that registration!)?

OK, so we have big, long discussions about what (known) language is acceptable here, and maybe even possibly keep up with new words.  Then, what about discussing where to draw the line on other subjects - racism, sexism, the symantecs of religious beliefs and the things done in the name of those beliefs?  Then what about all the other things I haven't mentioned or thought of?

The fact is, if you police for every eventuality, you end up with a rulebook as twisted and unworkable as UK case Law.

Remember, we have legal responsibilities as an entity, and recent case law has made us have to be more vigilant.


We are a global site, although our core is UK members, we have many members from both North and South America, Western Europe, Eastern Bloc, Scandanavia, Middle East, Africa etc, all with different beliefs, views, cultures. Please be aware that your audience is a global cross-section of people before you speak.


The forum rules, you will notice, are called Guidelines, not Rules.  They are there to give *ALL* members a feel for the kind of behaviour that is acceptable, not a conclusive list of rights and wrongs.  I had hoped that we were all intelligent enough to be able to look at those guidelines and act accordingly.



So, as I see it, we have 3 alternatives:

1) Obey the 'OOF Spirit', and the spirit of the guidelines. Return to our old light touch moderation, relying on our members to act responsibly.

2) Enforce the spirit of the guidelines. Moderate heavily, relying on the moderators to give up yet more of their time to run this FREE site, purely out of the goodness of their hearts.

3) Give up. If we want a free-for-all, I can happily recommend other Vauxhall sites, and that will save the Admin Team the hassle, time and expense of running OOF.


This is only a choice 'OOF' as a whole can make.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 June 2010, 16:25:00
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So, as I see it, we have 3 alternatives:

1) Obey the 'OOF Spirit', and the spirit of the guidelines. Return to our old light touch moderation, relying on our members to act responsibly.

2) Enforce the spirit of the guidelines. Moderate heavily, relying on the moderators to give up yet more of their time to run this FREE site, purely out of the goodness of their hearts.

3) Give up. If we want a free-for-all, I can happily recommend other Vauxhall sites, and that will save the Admin Team the hassle, time and expense of running OOF.


This is only a choice 'OOF' as a whole can make.

Choice and return to the spirit of the OOF as many would remeber 18/24 months ago.

Swear words, they have/had allways been used tougue in cheek.
Bloody ia a word that is rather tame, but the F word and C word to me are complete nono's, I have used firking and fooking as i firk off and fooking good show in a way to lighten or boost a situation or a joke but would never dare consider the word as a whole or expletive on a negative way.

Sexism and racism light hearted jokes have allways recieved a good laugh and in good spirit were never really frowed upon, but recently they have become more hardcore.  Yes, I have told many sexist jokes, but I have told them in both directions.

I still feel Headers and Smileys make the difference, I allways post a NWS especially after the 1st complaint I recieved on a post, Dbug for example allways puts a funny smiley on his jokes.

Motorsport and soaps threads if they are refering to an outcome should have (SPOILER) in the title so as not to spoil the future for others.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2010, 16:41:45
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So, as I see it, we have 3 alternatives:

1) Obey the 'OOF Spirit', and the spirit of the guidelines. Return to our old light touch moderation, relying on our members to act responsibly.

2) Enforce the spirit of the guidelines. Moderate heavily, relying on the moderators to give up yet more of their time to run this FREE site, purely out of the goodness of their hearts.

3) Give up. If we want a free-for-all, I can happily recommend other Vauxhall sites, and that will save the Admin Team the hassle, time and expense of running OOF.


This is only a choice 'OOF' as a whole can make.

Choice and return to the spirit of the OOF as many would remeber 18/24 months ago.

Swear words, they have/had allways been used tougue in cheek.
Bloody ia a word that is rather tame, but the F word and C word to me are complete nono's, I have used firking and fooking as i firk off and fooking good show in a way to lighten or boost a situation or a joke but would never dare consider the word as a whole or expletive on a negative way.

Sexism and racism light hearted jokes have allways recieved a good laugh and in good spirit were never really frowed upon, but recently they have become more hardcore.  Yes, I have told many sexist jokes, but I have told them in both directions.

I still feel Headers and Smileys make the difference, I allways post a NWS especially after the 1st complaint I recieved on a post, Dbug for example allways puts a funny smiley on his jokes.

Motorsport and soaps threads if they are refering to an outcome should have (SPOILER) in the title so as not to spoil the future for others.
I should add that my definition of racism/sexism/whateverism is not whether some weak-willed do-gooder could find fault with the comment, but whether I felt the comment was meant to cause offense.

For example, those cartoons in the press a couple of years ago depicting the prophet Mohammed were, imho, offensively racist/anti Islamic.  The old Englishman/Scotsman/Irishman type are not.


That is my one personal opinion, and my own morals, and may differ to that of the Admin Team as a whole.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 04 June 2010, 16:45:30
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So, as I see it, we have 3 alternatives:

1) Obey the 'OOF Spirit', and the spirit of the guidelines. Return to our old light touch moderation, relying on our members to act responsibly.

2) Enforce the spirit of the guidelines. Moderate heavily, relying on the moderators to give up yet more of their time to run this FREE site, purely out of the goodness of their hearts.

3) Give up. If we want a free-for-all, I can happily recommend other Vauxhall sites, and that will save the Admin Team the hassle, time and expense of running OOF.


This is only a choice 'OOF' as a whole can make.

Choice and return to the spirit of the OOF as many would remeber 18/24 months ago.

Swear words, they have/had allways been used tougue in cheek.
Bloody ia a word that is rather tame, but the F word and C word to me are complete nono's, I have used firking and fooking as i firk off and fooking good show in a way to lighten or boost a situation or a joke but would never dare consider the word as a whole or expletive on a negative way.

Sexism and racism light hearted jokes have allways recieved a good laugh and in good spirit were never really frowed upon, but recently they have become more hardcore.  Yes, I have told many sexist jokes, but I have told them in both directions.

I still feel Headers and Smileys make the difference, I allways post a NWS especially after the 1st complaint I recieved on a post, Dbug for example allways puts a funny smiley on his jokes.

Motorsport and soaps threads if they are refering to an outcome should have (SPOILER) in the title so as not to spoil the future for others.
Also, an element of lighter bad language could (and did) work with the light moderation if *EVERYONE* sticks to it.  Sadly, in the last year or so, we have had too many people try to push the limit, on the claim that they class their bad language as normal.

Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 June 2010, 18:50:16
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Also, an element of lighter bad language could (and did) work with the light moderation if *EVERYONE* sticks to it.  Sadly, in the last year or so, we have had too many people try to push the limit, on the claim that they class their bad language as normal.

Totally agree, it's not that long since as I only joined March 2008 there was allways the the light hearted tongue in cheek bad language from the day I joined, but it has just got so intence of recent months even some of the older members seem to have grasped it and run with worse language as if the newer members are doing it then so will I attitude, which is quite sad really.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 June 2010, 19:14:35
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Also, an element of lighter bad language could (and did) work with the light moderation if *EVERYONE* sticks to it.  Sadly, in the last year or so, we have had too many people try to push the limit, on the claim that they class their bad language as normal.

Totally agree, it's not that long since as I only joined March 2008 there was allways the the light hearted tongue in cheek bad language from the day I joined, but it has just got so intence of recent months even some of the older members seem to have grasped it and run with worse language as if the newer members are doing it then so will I attitude, which is quite sad really.


March/April 2008.......about the same time as me.  But.... you post SEVEN times for every one of mine....How sad is that?........ ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 June 2010, 19:17:55
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Also, an element of lighter bad language could (and did) work with the light moderation if *EVERYONE* sticks to it.  Sadly, in the last year or so, we have had too many people try to push the limit, on the claim that they class their bad language as normal.

Totally agree, it's not that long since as I only joined March 2008 there was allways the the light hearted tongue in cheek bad language from the day I joined, but it has just got so intence of recent months even some of the older members seem to have grasped it and run with worse language as if the newer members are doing it then so will I attitude, which is quite sad really.


March/April 2008.......about the same time as me.  But.... you post SEVEN times for every one of mine....How sad is that?........ ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*


No comment, but at least it's not a load of bo*****ks when I do  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: HolyCount on 04 June 2010, 19:20:08
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Also, an element of lighter bad language could (and did) work with the light moderation if *EVERYONE* sticks to it.  Sadly, in the last year or so, we have had too many people try to push the limit, on the claim that they class their bad language as normal.

Totally agree, it's not that long since as I only joined March 2008 there was allways the the light hearted tongue in cheek bad language from the day I joined, but it has just got so intence of recent months even some of the older members seem to have grasped it and run with worse language as if the newer members are doing it then so will I attitude, which is quite sad really.

Good Grief !!!  Same time as me !!!! How time flies.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 June 2010, 20:06:21
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Also, an element of lighter bad language could (and did) work with the light moderation if *EVERYONE* sticks to it.  Sadly, in the last year or so, we have had too many people try to push the limit, on the claim that they class their bad language as normal.

Totally agree, it's not that long since as I only joined March 2008 there was allways the the light hearted tongue in cheek bad language from the day I joined, but it has just got so intence of recent months even some of the older members seem to have grasped it and run with worse language as if the newer members are doing it then so will I attitude, which is quite sad really.


March/April 2008.......about the same time as me.  But.... you post SEVEN times for every one of mine....How sad is that?........ ::) ::) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*


No comment, but at least it's not a load of bo*****ks when I do  ::) ;D ;D


I believe you mean 'dangle berries'..... Mr Skruntie... ::) ::) ;)
Just what is it with this bloody word filter... :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Proz on 05 June 2010, 00:18:23
Ok i dont usually get involved in this kind of rubbish but here is my thoughts ....

I have only been here for 2 years and in that short time in my opinion the forum has gone downhill ....
I dont mind any kind of joke because i take it as a joke ...

I work in a place where if you dont have thick skin then you get slaughtered ...

I have never taken offence to anything on here untill the last time i asked for advice about steering wobble/wishbones just a few days ago ....
I was laughed at because i didnt know how to put "powerflex bushes into my wishbones"
I was mocked because i dont know how to use a hacksaw to cut out the inner metal sleeve ????
Some people need to remember that some of us are not mechanics ... before i joined here i would have never tried half of the stuff i have done to my car but i followed the guides on here and did things i would have never done ....
I felt like like a fool and got a "LOL you dont know how to use a hacksaw to cut out the middle bush and press in the powerflex bush"     :( :( :-/ :-[ :-[  ....

I do think there is a definate "cleek" on here where you can say what you want and get away with it but i actually accept that ...
Its the same at my work where its a case of " if your face fits " but again i accept that because i have only met one of two from the forum .

However i do accept the moderators have a job i would not like to do in this pathetic day and age .
Its a sad way to carry on but if the OOF ends then life goes on ... i hope it doesn't but i must admit i did almost delete myself a few days ago  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
I could probly get any answers i need on here without being a member but i actually do like being a member on here and wish i could come to some of the meets but due to my kids etc i cant ....
i would love to go to the Lakes meet  but i dont think i will be able too  :'(
Anyway Long Live The OOF  ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Amigo on 05 June 2010, 00:48:52
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tried the wine fermentors club forum.

you know the colour you get when you mix black and white...

Sorry, but not sure what you are getting at ... :-[
Read between the lines ie a cryptic clue. Does the forum now have to be child friendly as well as everything else we can't say or think? No offence mate but i've already accepted i can't swear even with some ***'s to cover & god knows what else, & now have to further regulate what i post or watch because one or two of you out of 8000 members want to go on here with your kids sat on your knee?
   Where exactly can an adult be an adult? I'm a Dad & an unofficial overprotective "uncle" to friends children but why should'nt i post/read an adult joke later on at night for fear someone's littlun won't read it next morning?
  I thought parents/guardians were responsible for thier childrens computer time, as oppose to expecting the rest of us to behave should we shock one of your little darlings that should be tucked up in beddy bo bo's!!!! ::)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: RobG on 05 June 2010, 01:16:45
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Ok i dont usually get involved in this kind of rubbish but here is my thoughts ....

I have only been here for 2 years and in that short time in my opinion the forum has gone downhill ....
I dont mind any kind of joke because i take it as a joke ...

I work in a place where if you dont have thick skin then you get slaughtered ...

I have never taken offence to anything on here untill the last time i asked for advice about steering wobble/wishbones just a few days ago ....
I was laughed at because i didnt know how to put "powerflex bushes into my wishbones"
I was mocked because i dont know how to use a hacksaw to cut out the inner metal sleeve ????
Some people need to remember that some of us are not mechanics ... before i joined here i would have never tried half of the stuff i have done to my car but i followed the guides on here and did things i would have never done ....
I felt like like a fool and got a "LOL you dont know how to use a hacksaw to cut out the middle bush and press in the powerflex bush"     :( :( :-/ :-[ :-[  ....

I do think there is a definate "cleek" on here where you can say what you want and get away with it but i actually accept that ...
Its the same at my work where its a case of " if your face fits " but again i accept that because i have only met one of two from the forum .

However i do accept the moderators have a job i would not like to do in this pathetic day and age .
Its a sad way to carry on but if the OOF ends then life goes on ... i hope it doesn't but i must admit i did almost delete myself a few days ago  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
I could probly get any answers i need on here without being a member but i actually do like being a member on here and wish i could come to some of the meets but due to my kids etc i cant ....
i would love to go to the Lakes meet  but i dont think i will be able too  :'(
Anyway Long Live The OOF  ;D ;D :y

Think you`re referring to this reply Proz,
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  Re: Getting Frustrated
Reply #21 - 01. Jun 2010 at 21:43     Proz wrote on 01. Jun 2010 at 21:07:
Marks DTM Calibration wrote on 01. Jun 2010 at 20:48:
Proz wrote on 01. Jun 2010 at 20:44:
I thought they had to be pressed in with some big press thing ? 


If replacing like with like then yes.

Hence the sudgestion to use polybushes.

If you bash/cut the old rubber out of the centre of the bush and then use a hack saw to cut the sleeve of the bush (from where you have removed the rubber i.e. inside to out) then the metal insert will push out easily.

Poly bushes can be inserted without a press 

Hence its more DIY friendly and actualy not to impossible to do without even removing the whole wishbone assembly

Mmm still sounds a bit daunting to a person who isnt good with spanners  ... is there a guide on here for it ... I'll go and check   
Not really necessary, just gotta be good with a hacksaw  ;D   
Wasn`t mocking you mate and if I offended you in any way shape or form please accept my unreserved apology. The post was made in jest. :-[
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Vamps on 05 June 2010, 01:30:42
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tried the wine fermentors club forum.

you know the colour you get when you mix black and white...

Sorry, but not sure what you are getting at ... :-[
Read between the lines ie a cryptic clue. Does the forum now have to be child friendly as well as everything else we can't say or think? No offence mate but i've already accepted i can't swear even with some ***'s to cover & god knows what else, & now have to further regulate what i post or watch because one or two of you out of 8000 members want to go on here with your kids sat on your knee?
   Where exactly can an adult be an adult? I'm a Dad & an unofficial overprotective "uncle" to friends children but why should'nt i post/read an adult joke later on at night for fear someone's littlun won't read it next morning?  I thought parents/guardians were responsible for thier childrens computer time, as oppose to expecting the rest of us to behave should we shock one of your little darlings that should be tucked up in beddy bo bo's!!!! ::)

Guy, you can post whatever joke you want or pictures for all I care, all I ask is a NWS notice, remember that is Not Work Safe, so I use that as a guide if Miss Vamps is looking over my shoulder, mild or disguised language is not so much of a problem, it is my responsibility to judge what she sees, so I might just pass quickly over something, which I often do, mind she is a bugger for spotting some avatars ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Proz on 05 June 2010, 01:38:34
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Ok i dont usually get involved in this kind of rubbish but here is my thoughts ....

I have only been here for 2 years and in that short time in my opinion the forum has gone downhill ....
I dont mind any kind of joke because i take it as a joke ...

I work in a place where if you dont have thick skin then you get slaughtered ...

I have never taken offence to anything on here untill the last time i asked for advice about steering wobble/wishbones just a few days ago ....
I was laughed at because i didnt know how to put "powerflex bushes into my wishbones"
I was mocked because i dont know how to use a hacksaw to cut out the inner metal sleeve ????
Some people need to remember that some of us are not mechanics ... before i joined here i would have never tried half of the stuff i have done to my car but i followed the guides on here and did things i would have never done ....
I felt like like a fool and got a "LOL you dont know how to use a hacksaw to cut out the middle bush and press in the powerflex bush"     :( :( :-/ :-[ :-[  ....

I do think there is a definate "cleek" on here where you can say what you want and get away with it but i actually accept that ...
Its the same at my work where its a case of " if your face fits " but again i accept that because i have only met one of two from the forum .

However i do accept the moderators have a job i would not like to do in this pathetic day and age .
Its a sad way to carry on but if the OOF ends then life goes on ... i hope it doesn't but i must admit i did almost delete myself a few days ago  :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
I could probly get any answers i need on here without being a member but i actually do like being a member on here and wish i could come to some of the meets but due to my kids etc i cant ....
i would love to go to the Lakes meet  but i dont think i will be able too  :'(
Anyway Long Live The OOF  ;D ;D :y

Think you`re referring to this reply Proz,
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  Re: Getting Frustrated
Reply #21 - 01. Jun 2010 at 21:43     Proz wrote on 01. Jun 2010 at 21:07:
Marks DTM Calibration wrote on 01. Jun 2010 at 20:48:
Proz wrote on 01. Jun 2010 at 20:44:
I thought they had to be pressed in with some big press thing ? 


If replacing like with like then yes.

Hence the sudgestion to use polybushes.

If you bash/cut the old rubber out of the centre of the bush and then use a hack saw to cut the sleeve of the bush (from where you have removed the rubber i.e. inside to out) then the metal insert will push out easily.

Poly bushes can be inserted without a press 

Hence its more DIY friendly and actualy not to impossible to do without even removing the whole wishbone assembly

Mmm still sounds a bit daunting to a person who isnt good with spanners  ... is there a guide on here for it ... I'll go and check   
Not really necessary, just gotta be good with a hacksaw  ;D   
Wasn`t mocking you mate and if I offended you in any way shape or form please accept my unreserved apology. The post was made in jest. :-[

No no .... that wasn't the one mate .... it wasnt your post .... with a face like mine you need deep skin but it wasnt you  :y :y :y
Probly the one that said " so jacking up .. releasing the bolt and sawing etc is above your capabilities " ..... i wish i could make a fool of him at my job by saying similar things but i wouldnt expect him to know how to work an MFV or RIV ... but i  hey ho eh  :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Proz on 05 June 2010, 01:50:25
MMM strangely enough the " piss taking laugh at him because he doesnt know how to saw through a metal bush and press in a powerflex " has been deleted ........   funny that eh  :-X :-X :-X ... it will be my fault though
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: RobG on 05 June 2010, 01:51:51
If your face is like your avatar just keep smiling Proz :y :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Proz on 05 June 2010, 01:55:11
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If your face is like your avatar just keep smiling Proz :y :y

Yeah thats the good side ..... should see the bad side  ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 05 June 2010, 01:55:18
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tried the wine fermentors club forum.

you know the colour you get when you mix black and white...

Sorry, but not sure what you are getting at ... :-[
Read between the lines ie a cryptic clue. Does the forum now have to be child friendly as well as everything else we can't say or think? No offence mate but i've already accepted i can't swear even with some ***'s to cover & god knows what else, & now have to further regulate what i post or watch because one or two of you out of 8000 members want to go on here with your kids sat on your knee?
   Where exactly can an adult be an adult? I'm a Dad & an unofficial overprotective "uncle" to friends children but why should'nt i post/read an adult joke later on at night for fear someone's littlun won't read it next morning?  I thought parents/guardians were responsible for thier childrens computer time, as oppose to expecting the rest of us to behave should we shock one of your little darlings that should be tucked up in beddy bo bo's!!!! ::)

Guy, you can post whatever joke you want or pictures for all I care, all I ask is a NWS notice, remember that is Not Work Safe, so I use that as a guide if Miss Vamps is looking over my shoulder, mild or disguised language is not so much of a problem, it is my responsibility to judge what she sees, so I might just pass quickly over something, which I often do, mind she is a bugger for spotting some avatars ::) ::) ::)

In all fairness mike, you have probably just hit the nail on the head regards that part.

the only other problems now are mainly the sexism/racism content, and to be fair the people that need to be listed too are the people that have been offended, they should asses the problem as you have done above and help suggest a lavel to which they find acceptable/suitable.  lets face it, it wont ever completely go away.

Swearing/bad language.  As mentioned, kids may well know more than we do.  So maybe a compromise, if you were to post anything derogotary in any way imcluding swearing then would it offend your grandparents.  Allthoug my grans have both departed and I never new my grandads I reckon my gran would have a laugh with us at most of the tongue in cheek stuff, but the F and C words were just a no no.

just a thought as a soloution needs to be found before the Admin decide it for you.
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: RobG on 05 June 2010, 01:57:37
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If your face is like your avatar just keep smiling Proz :y :y

Yeah thats the good side ..... should see the bad side  ;D ;D :y
Good job I`m not coulrophobic then ;D
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Proz on 05 June 2010, 02:15:09
MMmm sorry but it appears its not been removed after all ....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275415992/10#10

Having said that i do think it was wrong to laugh out loud to someone without the tools to lie under his car and saw through something metal and push in something plastic ....
No wonder people think the forum is broken ..... i would never make anyone feel as stupid as i did for not being confident enough to do that ... i think i should leave this place now ... :-/ :-/
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 05 June 2010, 02:56:28
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MMmm sorry but it appears its not been removed after all ....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275415992/10#10

Having said that i do think it was wrong to laugh out loud to someone without the tools to lie under his car and saw through something metal and push in something plastic ....
No wonder people think the forum is broken ..... i would never make anyone feel as stupid as i did for not being confident enough to do that ... i think i should leave this place now ... :-/ :-/

Please dont leave matey.   :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: Proz on 05 June 2010, 04:26:16
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MMmm sorry but it appears its not been removed after all ....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275415992/10#10

Having said that i do think it was wrong to laugh out loud to someone without the tools to lie under his car and saw through something metal and push in something plastic ....
No wonder people think the forum is broken ..... i would never make anyone feel as stupid as i did for not being confident enough to do that ... i think i should leave this place now ... :-/ :-/

Please dont leave matey.   :y

I will if i can but due to the vino i cant see how to delete/remove my profile  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: waspy on 05 June 2010, 06:25:47
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MMmm sorry but it appears its not been removed after all ....
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275415992/10#10

Having said that i do think it was wrong to laugh out loud to someone without the tools to lie under his car and saw through something metal and push in something plastic ....
No wonder people think the forum is broken ..... i would never make anyone feel as stupid as i did for not being confident enough to do that ... i think i should leave this place now ... :-/ :-/

Please dont leave matey.   :y

I will if i can but due to the vino i cant see how to delete/remove my profile  :-[ :-[

As said- Don't leave.
Ignore what folk say & turn the other cheek :)
I'm sure the comment wasn't made in a pee taking way, it's just that without facial expressions that go with face to face chat, things can be taken wrong.

In a different context-
Hell, i get the feeling that there's many on here that don't like me, but i couldn't give a kcuf.
Life's way too short matey & you can't please everyone so kcuf em :y
Title: Re: Chinese Takeaway
Post by: TheBoy on 05 June 2010, 09:32:28
Thanks to everyone for their feedback, apologies to Di for hijacking her thread.

I hope to have a sit down and chat, face to face, with those at the Lakes meet, to canvas opinions, and discuss possible ideas to overcome the percieved/real problems.


This thread has been useful, but has run its course.