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Title: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Craig_R on 19 April 2007, 10:34:32
I have Been Doing Some Reading On The Web (You Can Tell Its A Quite Day at Work) And I have seen lots of threads and posts from different Forums Swearing Acetone is the best thing since sliced Bread as an Additive to petrol.

What is it And where Do you get it and does it do what everyone is saying makes the car run better and better throttle response and MPG and so forth.

Craig
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Jimbob on 19 April 2007, 10:38:05
You will find it in SWMBO's make up bag!

Nail Varnish Remover!

Not sure I would use it for anything other that removing stains / nail varnish myself!

Will stick to STP / Redex / Forte
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Markjay on 19 April 2007, 11:10:28
Acetone is probably the one of the most 'violent' paint-removers you can buy as a a consumer... even as nail polish remover, it has now been generally replaced with less reactive substitutes, though you can still buy the original stuff.

Problem with Acetone is that it attacks plastics and many other materials, so should really be used only on unpainted metals and glass... in fact it should best not be used al all.

I can see how adding Acetone to petrol may help remove varnish and other deposits from the full system, but it may be harmful to some elements in the system such rubber seals or paper filter. As said above I would stick to conventional fuel system cleaners such as Redex / STP/ Forte, which are generally based on turpentine and in the right dosage. I will take longer to get there and will require repeated use, but it is a safer way of doing it.

And ultimately, if the injectors are badly clogged, no fuel additive will help and you will need to remove them and have them professionally cleaned suing ultra-sonic cleaning equipment.





Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Martin_1962 on 19 April 2007, 12:10:51


CH3-CO-CH3
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: P_Russell on 19 April 2007, 12:34:59
Oooh good, a chemistry question - I can contribute to the forum at last!
 :y
Don't go putting acetone in your engine as it will degrade any plastic/rubber.  Especially don't use nail varnish remover as this has lots of additives to prevent stripping fats from the skin.  Note I said it strips fats and oils - I don't think I'd want too much of that going on in my engine.  However, to clean parts removed from the car it's a top tip, although I prefer methanol.

Stick with the redex/STP - they've done the research and believe me, it would be more proftable for them to just sell you a bottle of smartly labelled acetone.....
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: TheBoy on 19 April 2007, 12:43:10
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Oooh good, a chemistry question - I can contribute to the forum at last!
 :y
Don't go putting acetone in your engine as it will degrade any plastic/rubber.  Especially don't use nail varnish remover as this has lots of additives to prevent stripping fats from the skin.  Note I said it strips fats and oils - I don't think I'd want too much of that going on in my engine.  However, to clean parts removed from the car it's a top tip, although I prefer methanol.

Stick with the redex/STP - they've done the research and believe me, it would be more proftable for them to just sell you a bottle of smartly labelled acetone.....
As you are obviously into your chemicals (;)), know what will remove glue deposits from my (I think) plastic headlight lenses?
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 April 2007, 17:16:36
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 However, to clean parts removed from the car it's a top tip, although I prefer methanol....


In which case bros, I expect a nice big bottle to be awaiting me next time I see you ;) .....ta!
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Tony H on 19 April 2007, 18:16:37
Acetone can be obtained in commecial quantitys from fibre glass (GRP) suppliers costs about £5 for five ltrs. It is an extreamly volotile solvent with a very low flashpoint, and can rapidly break down some plastics and rubber compounds, as said I wouldn't put it in a car engine
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 19 April 2007, 19:53:11
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 However, to clean parts removed from the car it's a top tip, although I prefer methanol....


In which case bros, I expect a nice big bottle to be awaiting me next time I see you ;) .....ta!

Smart move for your bro to buy an omega then Mark  ;D

My bro is accountant.....altho he drives a disco....and yes it broke down again 2 weeks ago....another new autobox (thats the 3rd one its on now....its averaging one a year!  ;D )....but i dont hold that against him....as i dont have to pay for an accountant  :y
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Omegatoy on 19 April 2007, 20:57:19
well in found this a few weeks ago nd it seems acetone is very good!!!

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive

Omegatoy
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Andy B on 19 April 2007, 21:20:49
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Oooh good, a chemistry question - I can contribute to the forum at last!.....
Ahh good! What's BUTANONE then? (in simpleton term  :y ) I've recently come across it & have never heard of it before (Domino printer wash)

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Don't go putting acetone in your engine as it will degrade any plastic/rubber.  ........
 Note I said it strips fats and oils - I .....

So it's not a right good idea to use it to clean paint off your hands then!  :-?
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 April 2007, 21:43:27
Even I know that one.......I did chemistry many years ago to....

Its a Ketone....

   O  H H H
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H-C-C-C-C-H
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       H H H  

Its another bloody good solvent....
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: HI2DVY on 19 April 2007, 23:06:18
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Even I know that one.......I did chemistry many years ago to....

Its a Ketone....

   O  H H H
   ||  |  |  |
H-C-C-C-C-H
       |  |  |
       H H H  

Its another bloody good solvent....


That's not butanone, it's butanal which is an aldehyde.

Butanone is...

    H  O H  H
    |  || |   |
H-C-C-C-C-H
    |      |  |
    H     H  H

 :y

Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: theolodian on 19 April 2007, 23:12:40
Use Toluene.  Still a bodge, but better.
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Elite Pete on 19 April 2007, 23:25:08
What about this one


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If you have an auto box you might struggle with this one ;) ;D            
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: HI2DVY on 19 April 2007, 23:29:43
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What about this one


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If you have an auto box you might struggle with this one ;) ;D            

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Got me stumped I'm afraid.. but I recognise this...

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Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: theolodian on 19 April 2007, 23:33:43
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If you have an auto box you might struggle with this one ;) ;D            

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Got me stumped I'm afraid.. but I recognise this...

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More like this silly!  ;D

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Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: HI2DVY on 19 April 2007, 23:40:08
Knew someone would pick me up on it   :-[

Never use these ones anyway  :y
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Markjay on 20 April 2007, 00:36:08
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Use Toluene.  Still a bodge, but better.

..or use Tri Nitro Toluene, but do not go near airport security dogs after handling the stuff  ;D




Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: P_Russell on 20 April 2007, 11:08:45
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Even I know that one.......I did chemistry many years ago to....

Its a Ketone....

   O  H H H
   ||  |  |  |
H-C-C-C-C-H
       |  |  |
       H H H  

Its another bloody good solvent....


That's not butanone, it's butanal which is an aldehyde.

Butanone is...

    H  O H  H
    |  || |   |
H-C-C-C-C-H
    |      |  |
    H     H  H

 :y


2-butanone in fact.  Widely available in small glass vials in certain outlets in Soho.....

As for cleaning paint off hands it's great stuff and works a treat.  But you might get a severe beating from the wife if you use all her nail polish remover AND moisturiser....
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: deano on 20 April 2007, 21:13:09
hi lads i work for the company that makes the stuff and i see what i can do to most materials and trust me you dont add it to anything as it can react and cause all sorts of problems yes it can be used as a cleaner but takes all the moisture out of the skin and can contain benzene which is related to cancer sorry to frighten you all but thats the facts :(
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 20 April 2007, 21:18:49
We used to use Acetone to clean off oil and stuff from new coach panels before fitting them, also paintshops use it... stings in cuts too ;D

Not advisable to use on your car mate :y
Title: Re: Acetone What Is It
Post by: Tony H on 20 April 2007, 22:14:03
One of the things I love about this forum the contributors have such a wealth of knowledge on so many diverse subjects :y