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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 19 April 2007, 12:02:42
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...about the outage from about 11:15 to 11:45. Something went bang :'(. Bodged up now until I can find a replacement >:(
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I forgive you ;)
What was it went bang?
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Thought it went AWOL - I started having withdrawel symptoms and everything.. I would get out more, but I'm at work :P
PSU? Or something more sinister (/me hopes its not the donated HD, but believes it would have been out longer if it was)
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Thought something went wrong - had just posted a reply to a thread and forum disappeared. Well done for the quick restoration Jaime. :y
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I wondered what happened there.
I was thinking Oh No a quiet day at work and The Forum is down
Well I must say Fantastically fast at getting it back up again.
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Thought it went AWOL - I started having withdrawel symptoms and everything.. I would get out more, but I'm at work :P
PSU? Or something more sinister (/me hopes its not the donated HD, but believes it would have been out longer if it was)
I can recover from a failed HDD very quickly - the advantage of VMs ;)
No, your HDD is running sweet as a nut. Next guess?
Clue 1 - the forum stayed up and running ;)
Clue 2 - Router stats:
System up: 282 days 23 hours 42 minutes
Line up: 281 days 14 hours 57 minutes
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Well I must say Fantastically fast at getting it back up again.
Fortunately I was at home at the time, though that may have contributed to the failure of course ::)
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Thought it went AWOL - I started having withdrawel symptoms and everything.. I would get out more, but I'm at work :P
PSU? Or something more sinister (/me hopes its not the donated HD, but believes it would have been out longer if it was)
I can recover from a failed HDD very quickly - the advantage of VMs ;)
No, your HDD is running sweet as a nut. Next guess?
Clue 1 - the forum stayed up and running ;)
Clue 2 - Router stats:
System up: 282 days 23 hours 42 minutes
Line up: 281 days 14 hours 57 minutes
Nice setup.. Got nothing like that here, they don't understand that I actually need to spend money on disaster recovery here, they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
If line is your connection, then your modem (if its seperate) - modem power supply? Failing that blame BT/ some other carrier you use..
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not knowing your setup...
Network card
Network switch/hub?
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Thought it went AWOL - I started having withdrawel symptoms and everything.. I would get out more, but I'm at work :P
PSU? Or something more sinister (/me hopes its not the donated HD, but believes it would have been out longer if it was)
I can recover from a failed HDD very quickly - the advantage of VMs ;)
No, your HDD is running sweet as a nut. Next guess?
Clue 1 - the forum stayed up and running ;)
Clue 2 - Router stats:
System up: 282 days 23 hours 42 minutes
Line up: 281 days 14 hours 57 minutes
Nice setup.. Got nothing like that here, they don't understand that I actually need to spend money on disaster recovery here, they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
If line is your connection, then your modem (if its seperate) - modem power supply? Failing that blame BT/ some other carrier you use..
Nope, network connection fine, hence the Line Up time of 281 days (is that a DSL record?). So most definatively not able to blame Zen Internet....
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not knowing your setup...
Need to know basis for security reasons ;)
Network card
Alas, not hot plug, so would need forum outage to replace (not strictly true, as there is a 2nd card installed for such an eventuallity, but still need to rejig VM plumbing, so VM may have to go down).
Network switch/hub?
Correct. My lovely gigabit switch has decided that it has worked way too hard for the past 4 years, and that enough was enough :'( :'( :'(
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yay!
need a hub whip round for a replacement?
They are cheaper than last time I looked! starting at £30 ish!
Imagine your would want one nearer the £100 though
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Thought it went AWOL - I started having withdrawel symptoms and everything.. I would get out more, but I'm at work :P
PSU? Or something more sinister (/me hopes its not the donated HD, but believes it would have been out longer if it was)
I can recover from a failed HDD very quickly - the advantage of VMs ;)
No, your HDD is running sweet as a nut. Next guess?
Clue 1 - the forum stayed up and running ;)
Clue 2 - Router stats:
System up: 282 days 23 hours 42 minutes
Line up: 281 days 14 hours 57 minutes
Nice setup.. Got nothing like that here, they don't understand that I actually need to spend money on disaster recovery here, they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
If line is your connection, then your modem (if its seperate) - modem power supply? Failing that blame BT/ some other carrier you use..
Nope, network connection fine, hence the Line Up time of 281 days (is that a DSL record?). So most definatively not able to blame Zen Internet....
Yes, I was being stupid there - read that as a total uptime forever, rather than been up this long so far..
Oh well, well done JimBob :y
Good work on getting a new switch in there so quickly :y
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Good work on getting a new switch in there so quickly :y
You are creditting me with too much ability there. Take switches so much for granted, that don't have a spare. Did have a recovery plan when forum initially migrated here (after hosting company screwed us), but subsequent network changes means that is no longer valid.
What I am good at is quick bodges though ;)
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Cross over cable?
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Good work on getting a new switch in there so quickly :y
(after hosting company screwed us)
What did they do?
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Cross over cable?
Err, no.
Originally moved to a different network, whilst I bodged network switch. Now back to where it should be, gigabit switch is now fine, albeit running from a car battery ::)
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LMAO
So long term plan? Maplin for a new AC/DC Adaptor?
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Good work on getting a new switch in there so quickly :y
(after hosting company screwed us)
What did they do?
Ah, yes, before you joined....
Hosting Unlimited should actually be called Limited Hosting. Your site will run like a dog, but if you raise a ticket with them, they just renamed your fiiles to kill your site. If you happen to tell the truth in their support forums - such as the fact that their support number is a recorded message saying they have no telephone support, they suspend your account, and tell Laidback66 that you call them up (how?) and swear at them.
Good bloody ridance to them >:(
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LMAO
So long term plan? Maplin for a new AC/DC Adaptor?
Plug in the battery charger so the battery doesn't go flat I think is the short term plan.... ;D
Might become the medium term plan as well, but don't tell Laidback :o
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Good work on getting a new switch in there so quickly :y
(after hosting company screwed us)
What did they do?
Ah, yes, before you joined....
Hosting Unlimited should actually be called Limited Hosting. Your site will run like a dog, but if you raise a ticket with them, they just renamed your fiiles to kill your site. If you happen to tell the truth in their support forums - such as the fact that their support number is a recorded message saying they have no telephone support, they suspend your account, and tell Laidback66 that you call them up (how?) and swear at them.
Good bloody ridance to them >:(
OMG what a bunch of cowboys! Thats quite shocking - not the first time I've heard something like that though, just not as extreme...
"Hosting Unlimited = Limited Hosting", sounds like my "Off road Freelander = Spends most of the time off the road, in the garage"
;D
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So What do you need long term Jamie? Parts or cash to buy a new bit? With 800 + members at a quid a piece, should be able to raise funds if nesasary, including that special gold lubricant required to do any tricky job properly ;D
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So What do you need long term Jamie? Parts or cash to buy a new bit? With 800 + members at a quid a piece, should be able to raise funds if nesasary, including that special gold lubricant required to do any tricky job properly ;D
Whats wrong with the car battery? ;)
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Is it just the power supply goosed then......I'm sure I can sort that out.....
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Is it just the power supply goosed then......I'm sure I can sort that out.....
Yeah, PSU knackered. SMPS rubbish ;)
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Any details, specs etc......Voltage, current, connector type.....
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Any details, specs etc......Voltage, current, connector type.....
PM sent...
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Any details, specs etc......Voltage, current, connector type.....
PM sent...
Its not a 'Planet' switch is it? - Those PSU's are about as reliable as a plumbers estimate!
My last job we changed them all to NetGear
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Any details, specs etc......Voltage, current, connector type.....
PM sent...
Its not a 'Planet' switch is it? - Those PSU's are about as reliable as a plumbers estimate!
My last job we changed them all to NetGear
Err, no. And I wouldn't use netgear either. It was 3Com - I went through a phase of really rating 3Com stuff, until they took their eye off the ball and released that useless all-in-one combined wireless/ADSL router.
Had a CNet gigabit switch before the 3Com. Excellent bit of kit, semi managable (only via serial though), but too damn noisy. As was the Cisco Catalyst I had before, though that was only 100Mb, but had the advantage of the Cat version of IOS, so could do some funky stuff, which I now have to offload to seperate routers.
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Well done Jaime in fixing the prob :y
I never noticed as i was out working ::)
Ive got a 47AH battery sat on my kitchen floor doing nothing.....bit heavy to post to you for a spare ;D
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Well done Jaime in fixing the prob :y
I never noticed as i was out working ::)
Ive got a 47AH battery sat on my kitchen floor doing nothing.....bit heavy to post to you for a spare ;D
LOL, cheaper for me to get one from dealer than it is to post one ;D
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I never noticed as i was out working ::)
I wasn't the only one at work today then ::)
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum ;)
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum ;)
Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses ;D....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum ;)
Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses ;D....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example
My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent. I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...
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ARCServe, Yuk, hated managing that...
Great until you need to restore
Used it on Netware and Windows
PIA with its version incompatabilites.
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum ;)
Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses ;D....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example
My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent. I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...
5 servers:
1 PDC (W2K Advanced Server)
1 File Print (W2K3 Server)
1 SQL 2003 (W2k3 Server)
1 NAS (W2K3 Appliance Server)
1 Exchange 2003 (W2K3 Server)
All backed up by NT backup - despite the many arguments I've had, they won't give me the money I need to implement a proper solution, I look forward to the day that it all goes wrong so I can say 'I told you so' although it'll still be my fault in their eyes I'm sure...
Management here are a bunch of numpties sadly. I've tried everyway I can think of under the sun to get them to give me a budget here, its a joke really - especially from a 16 million a year turn over company. We've just been bought out by another company, combined we're now looking at 30 million a year and I.T. for the group is going to fall under my control, so hopefully things will change - I have a few prequesits for them before I pick up those reigns...
Linking everything together and pushing the ERP application I've developed out accross the group is going to cost money, if it comes to it I'll be hiding a backup solution within that cost.
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ARCServe, Yuk, hated managing that...
Great until you need to restore
Used it on Netware and Windows
PIA with its version incompatabilites.
The Netware one, esp 5.1g was a tad unstable. V6 sorted that out. Used to support several hundred Netware 4 and 5 servers running ARCserve 6, never really had problems. Occasionally had to rescan the tape to do a restore because ARCserve had screwed its db...
Under Windows, ARCserve always seemed a bit more solid, but again, occasionally had to merge the tape back in...
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum ;)
Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses ;D....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example
My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent. I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...
5 servers:
1 PDC (W2K Advanced Server)
1 File Print (W2K3 Server)
1 SQL 2003 (W2k3 Server)
1 NAS (W2K3 Appliance Server)
1 Exchange 2003 (W2K3 Server)
All backed up by NT backup - despite the many arguments I've had, they won't give me the money I need to implement a proper solution, I look forward to the day that it all goes wrong so I can say 'I told you so' although it'll still be my fault in their eyes I'm sure...
Management here are a bunch of numpties sadly. I've tried everyway I can think of under the sun to get them to give me a budget here, its a joke really - especially from a 16 million a year turn over company. We've just been bought out by another company, combined we're now looking at 30 million a year and I.T. for the group is going to fall under my control, so hopefully things will change - I have a few prequesits for them before I pick up those reigns...
Linking everything together and pushing the ERP application I've developed out accross the group is going to cost money, if it comes to it I'll be hiding a backup solution within that cost.
Running on NT backup they are asking for trouble. How do you manage to back up Exchange with this? What about flushing the logs for example?
At work, I use Backup Exec so have never tried the NT backup with exchange. Company was not keen on my backup solution, relying on an out of date copy of Arcserve (which I hated) and a DDS4 drive that was on it's last legs. I just placed the order for what I wanted when no one was looking and the FD was out of the office on holiday so did not see the invoice..........
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but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example
I finally managed to give the work exchange server the back up it deserved this week. Back up to the skip and chuck the F**king thing over the side!
It finally sailed too close to the wind when it accepted all wednesday's emails to my Boss (logs to prove it) and hid them in a black hole somewhere.
Kevin
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Sure he didn't have a dim witted rule set up ;)
Exchange is not too bad tbh. Better than most corporate mail systems.
As to backups, Exchange comes with a modified version of NT Backup to cope with Exchange. Still wouldn't use it though. ARCserve isn't too bad once you get used to it, and works well as a 'set and forget' system. Backup Exec showed promise when Seagate, Veritas did their usual thing and ruined it, and I suspect Symantec will add more bloat at the expense of reliability. BackupExec has a horrible habit of not telling you its screwed up, so you have to be good and check daily.
Hence I stick to ARCserve (think I'm running v11). Netbackup is also capable, though does tend to blue screen Windows servers sometimes. Overkill for small setups though...
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they think that my windows NT backup is enough, even though it can't even back up open files :o
Hmmm
Wrong backup software ;)
Backup software? Whats that then? Our Linux VM, unsurprisingly, uses tar, gzip, and ftp to backup the forum ;)
Ummm its that strange stuff NT uses ;D....which i think ClarCE is probably using.....if it carnt backup open files! Lots of different alternatives about as you suggest....but depends on what hes backing up....exchange servers? for example
My W2K3 server that hosts the VM that runs this place uses ARCserve, complete with Exchange agent. I do not use SQL agent, and back up all the SQL stuff a different way...
5 servers:
1 PDC (W2K Advanced Server)
1 File Print (W2K3 Server)
1 SQL 2003 (W2k3 Server)
1 NAS (W2K3 Appliance Server)
1 Exchange 2003 (W2K3 Server)
All backed up by NT backup - despite the many arguments I've had, they won't give me the money I need to implement a proper solution, I look forward to the day that it all goes wrong so I can say 'I told you so' although it'll still be my fault in their eyes I'm sure...
Management here are a bunch of numpties sadly. I've tried everyway I can think of under the sun to get them to give me a budget here, its a joke really - especially from a 16 million a year turn over company. We've just been bought out by another company, combined we're now looking at 30 million a year and I.T. for the group is going to fall under my control, so hopefully things will change - I have a few prequesits for them before I pick up those reigns...
Linking everything together and pushing the ERP application I've developed out accross the group is going to cost money, if it comes to it I'll be hiding a backup solution within that cost.
Running on NT backup they are asking for trouble. How do you manage to back up Exchange with this? What about flushing the logs for example?
At work, I use Backup Exec so have never tried the NT backup with exchange. Company was not keen on my backup solution, relying on an out of date copy of Arcserve (which I hated) and a DDS4 drive that was on it's last legs. I just placed the order for what I wanted when no one was looking and the FD was out of the office on holiday so did not see the invoice..........
Sorry guys, that is about 30 stratospheres above my head!
Hardest thing I had to do was remember to put the backup paper the right way round - thats carbon paper in a manual typewriter!
The biggest advance was when they managed to finally put Tippex onto the small paper sheets rather than the clogged brush thing every office had back then. ;D