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Title: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 15:04:41
Not that I condone the testing, but....

Sat waiting at a roundabout, I wondered what the 0 - 60 was of mine.  Hardly and ideal place, but what the hell.  So I switched the FC to stopwatch and floored it. I had to feather it round the roundabout slightly, and the exit was an incline (The BP roundabout on the A43 for Tunnie).

8.2s

My car is bog standard, 3.0l, autobox.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: theolodian on 24 March 2007, 15:10:24
That brings up a thought.  You know Bruntingthorpe is surprisingly cheap to use.  Maybe we could have a group event there?
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: tunnie on 24 March 2007, 15:10:39
Official figures are 8.7 for the MV6 Auto.

Also the official figures for the 2.2 manual are 9.5 seconds.... might be worth giving mine a test and comparing it to the factory figures.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 15:18:20
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Official figures are 8.7 for the MV6 Auto.
Depends who you listen to...  ...I think the factory figures for mine were 9s, and 8s for the manual.  I can easily believe the better g/box software shaves off 2 or 3 tenths, possible more...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 15:40:31
Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: theolodian on 24 March 2007, 15:45:11
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Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?
I probably shouldn't be thrashing it to redline with the EM gaskets gone, but I still do regularly.  Might as well have some fun leading up to the aggravation of fixing stuff.  Fixing stuff is a bit more palatable if you're having some fun between times.  ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 15:55:14
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Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?
I probably shouldn't be thrashing it to redline with the EM gaskets gone, but I still do regularly.  Might as well have some fun leading up to the aggravation of fixing stuff.  Fixing stuff is a bit more palatable if you're having some fun between times.  ;)
I wonder if bouncing it on the rev limiter the other day has caused the gaskets to go? Unlikely, but possible I guess  :-/
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: theolodian on 24 March 2007, 15:59:54
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Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?
I probably shouldn't be thrashing it to redline with the EM gaskets gone, but I still do regularly.  Might as well have some fun leading up to the aggravation of fixing stuff.  Fixing stuff is a bit more palatable if you're having some fun between times.  ;)
I wonder if bouncing it on the rev limiter the other day has caused the gaskets to go? Unlikely, but possible I guess  :-/
My EM gaskets were OK when I bought it.  But then it had been driven so sedately that it was down at least 50hp.

Probably not the new firmware, but the auto likes to sit at redline for several seconds before shifting up.  Surprising how many engineers are morons.  >:(
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 16:03:19
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Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?
I probably shouldn't be thrashing it to redline with the EM gaskets gone, but I still do regularly.  Might as well have some fun leading up to the aggravation of fixing stuff.  Fixing stuff is a bit more palatable if you're having some fun between times.  ;)
I wonder if bouncing it on the rev limiter the other day has caused the gaskets to go? Unlikely, but possible I guess  :-/
My EM gaskets were OK when I bought it.  But then it had been driven so sedately that it was down at least 50hp.

Probably not the new firmware, but the auto likes to sit at redline for several seconds before shifting up.  Surprising how many engineers are morons.  >:(
You should try my MV6, as I don't think it sits at redline too long before changing*. Take it for a blast next time you're down here...


* If I don't leave it locked in 2nd ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: theolodian on 24 March 2007, 16:08:53
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You should try my MV6, as I don't think it sits at redline too long before changing*. Take it for a blast next time you're down here...


* If I don't leave it locked in 2nd ::)
Cool, I might do that.  Is your software a different code from mine?  You could take mine out for a bounce, er blast, sometime to see what I mean.  (Hopefully the bouncing will be fixed tomorrow.  Just ask timbuk how bad it is!)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Auto Addict on 24 March 2007, 16:37:50
Got mine up to 30 in 25secs this morning ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 16:57:09
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You should try my MV6, as I don't think it sits at redline too long before changing*. Take it for a blast next time you're down here...


* If I don't leave it locked in 2nd ::)
Cool, I might do that.  Is your software a different code from mine?  You could take mine out for a bounce, er blast, sometime to see what I mean.  (Hopefully the bouncing will be fixed tomorrow.  Just ask timbuk how bad it is!)
I think both of ours have the 820 ECU, so will be running identical firmware...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 March 2007, 17:00:28
I think a mate of mine has got one of these:

http://www.race-technology.com/ap22_4_620.html

.. which might be fun to try sometime.

Kevin
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: theolodian on 24 March 2007, 17:05:13
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I think a mate of mine has got one of these:

http://www.race-technology.com/ap22_4_620.html

.. which might be fun to try sometime.

Kevin
I don't know about that one, but there have been several good ones out there for some time.  Give a reasonable estimate of torque and HP graphs too.  G-Tech has been really popular in the states.

You still need a good place to use them though.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 17:10:18
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You still need a good place to use them though.
The A43.... ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: tunnie on 24 March 2007, 17:27:25
Well since TB's 0-60 post, thought i should give the 2.2 a spin. Not driven it in a week.

Surprise surprise the battery was flat  :'( -  Must sort that.

Went over to Tesco got the pressures checked and off to Slough to warm up, on the way back i was at the front of the lights, remembered TB's post, decided to try mine.

This was joining the M4, cold evening and flat road (so best chance for the 2.2)  ::)

Held revs at 2k, on the clutch biting point, lights went amber, clutch up and off i went.....

Hit 60 in 8.9 seconds!!!!  :D :D :D

Book says 9.5, only me inside the car, put a passenger in and i am sunk, but I am well pleased with that!  :)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 24 March 2007, 17:51:23
I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: tunnie on 24 March 2007, 17:55:47
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Was it a manual or Auto? people who have had theirs chipped to comment it makes a big difference
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 24 March 2007, 17:59:17
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Was it a manual or Auto? people who have had theirs chipped to comment it makes a big difference

Its an Auto, but TBH i think its quicker than EP's new manual as i've driven both and i'm sure he will agree ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 24 March 2007, 18:03:37
I know the people who own the company that make and design that unit....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: tunnie on 24 March 2007, 18:08:57
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I know the people who own the company that make and design that unit....

Get them to design a chip for the 2.2!! Well chuffed with 8.9 to 60.... be even better if it was less  ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 March 2007, 18:36:12
Mine is just over 8 seconds, but under 8.5
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 18:43:46
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Mine is just over 8 seconds, but under 8.5
Thats a wide range...   ...what is the figure?
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 24 March 2007, 18:55:26
I might try mine tomorrow......tho it will spoil my experiment of how far the stopwatch goes upto......its over 700 hours at the moment  ;D  ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: STMO123 on 24 March 2007, 18:58:05
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I might try mine tomorrow......tho it will spoil my experiment of how far the stopwatch goes upto......its over 700 hours at the moment  ;D  ::)

YOU SAD GIT!  Mines only on 411hrs ;D
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 24 March 2007, 19:19:45
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I might try mine tomorrow......tho it will spoil my experiment of how far the stopwatch goes upto......its over 700 hours at the moment  ;D  ::)

YOU SAD GIT!  Mines only on 411hrs ;D

 ;D ;D Tho im sure someone will spill the beans and say how far it goes up to!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 March 2007, 20:38:02
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Mine is just over 8 seconds, but under 8.5
Thats a wide range...   ...what is the figure?

You try pressing the buttons! I cant get the same time but usually in that range.

Also getting it as it passes 60 soemtimes you can be too slow!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 24 March 2007, 20:40:13
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Mine is just over 8 seconds, but under 8.5
Thats a wide range...   ...what is the figure?

You try pressing the buttons! I cant get the same time but usually in that range.

Also getting it as it passes 60 soemtimes you can be too slow!


Oh and I haven't tested it for a while - I'll try on the way to work sometime next week
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Danny on 24 March 2007, 21:30:27
not even gonna bother enbarassin myself on this one with my 2.0 auto!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 March 2007, 21:41:27
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Was it a manual or Auto? people who have had theirs chipped to comment it makes a big difference

Its an Auto, but TBH i think its quicker than EP's new manual as i've driven both and i'm sure he will agree ;)

Ahhhh the old silver streak, it does feel quicker than the manual estate but both the multirams are not working on the estate so ive just ordered a one way valve to see if that will do the trick
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 March 2007, 21:41:35
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You still need a good place to use them though.

True. I do technically have access to an airfield but I don't think they'd be too amenable to an OOF 0-60 party.
 
I did Vmax the Westfield on the runway one night though  :-[
 
Kevin
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Jay w on 24 March 2007, 21:49:03
my 2.5 elite auto turned out an 8.5 in the past.

The was with sport mode selected and the foot firmly embedded in the carpet all the way, me on my own with a full tank of fuel.

I didn't think that was too bad for the old girl
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 21:55:25
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Mine is just over 8 seconds, but under 8.5
Thats a wide range...   ...what is the figure?

You try pressing the buttons!
I did....

Gonna try it again on better petrol (ie, not Asda shite), on the flat, not trying to negotiate a roundabout (and having to lift slightly), and without a boot full of crap...   ....I think sub 8s is achievable from it without too much effort...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Chopsdad on 24 March 2007, 22:00:33
It's all subjective I'm afraid.  Try hitting the start and stop on your stopwatch and see the huge difference it makes.  Then think about keeping one eye on the road, the other on the speedo needle and timing the pushing or the button to perfection at exactly 60 mph.

Although my best is 8.9 with a 2.2, it means if I got a cleaner start I'd beat TB's 3.0 and that surely couldn't happen.  ::)  
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 March 2007, 22:06:47
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The was with sport mode selected
I will try that next time...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 24 March 2007, 22:26:48
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Was it a manual or Auto? people who have had theirs chipped to comment it makes a big difference

Its an Auto, but TBH i think its quicker than EP's new manual as i've driven both and i'm sure he will agree ;)

Ahhhh the old silver streak, it does feel quicker than the manual estate but both the multirams are not working on the estate so ive just ordered a one way valve to see if that will do the trick

Don't think this was a good time to admit to doing that as pops has just joined the forum this evening, think i might be getting a b*llocking in a minute ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Elite Pete on 24 March 2007, 22:31:22
It was a typing error, It was supposed to read 0-6 in 7.6 seconds ;D
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 24 March 2007, 22:35:07
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It was a typing error, It was supposed to read 0-6 in 7.6 seconds ;D

 :-X :D
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Tony H on 24 March 2007, 22:48:09
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not even gonna bother enbarassin myself on this one with my 2.0 auto!
Try a bit of nos in your inlet fannymold :) :y
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 24 March 2007, 22:49:18
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Got mine up to 30 in 25secs this morning ::)

Im going to try to beat that.....it might manage 35 in 20 secs if im lucky and on lpg  :D
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: hobbes on 25 March 2007, 00:58:22
My 2.5 Auto estate used to be a consistant 8.9seconds, the manual 2.5 saloon was 8.7 and the manual MV6 3.0 7.7sec - That's just me in the car - fairly empty boot & under 1/4 tank fuel.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 March 2007, 10:36:25
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fairly empty boot & under 1/4 tank fuel.
Good point, my tank was up to brim at time. 75l must be fairly heavy...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Jim Bob2 on 25 March 2007, 19:21:06
My 2.5 manual estate does a consistent 8.7 seconds which seems about right compared to the others here.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 March 2007, 20:42:38
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fairly empty boot & under 1/4 tank fuel.
Good point, my tank was up to brim at time. 75l must be fairly heavy...

About 75Kg even.....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Markie on 25 March 2007, 21:55:29
intresting......read this earlier and ben and tried on a straight carridgeway this dry evening.

Sports on - £20 of petrol - car empty - boot empty.

60 in 8.2seconds.

But i do wonder how reliable ( ie pressing the start button and also getting it as it passes 60)

Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 March 2007, 21:58:08
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intresting......read this earlier and ben and tried on a straight carridgeway this dry evening.

Sports on - £20 of petrol - car empty - boot empty.

60 in 8.2seconds.

But i do wonder how reliable ( ie pressing the start button and also getting it as it passes 60)

Don't think it will be far out....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Markie on 25 March 2007, 22:00:14
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intresting......read this earlier and ben and tried on a straight carridgeway this dry evening.

Sports on - £20 of petrol - car empty - boot empty.

60 in 8.2seconds.

But i do wonder how reliable ( ie pressing the start button and also getting it as it passes 60)

Don't think it will be far out....

And if it was right - and i could software update the gearbox then chip it....boy that would be quick  ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 25 March 2007, 22:02:21
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intresting......read this earlier and ben and tried on a straight carridgeway this dry evening.

Sports on - £20 of petrol - car empty - boot empty.

60 in 8.2seconds.

But i do wonder how reliable ( ie pressing the start button and also getting it as it passes 60)

Don't think it will be far out....

And if it was right - and i could software update the gearbox then chip it....boy that would be quick  ;)
I reckon the g/box update does make it slightly quicker, possible a tenth or 2....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Paul M on 25 March 2007, 22:39:20
Done this ages ago, 0-60 on the speedo with just myself in the car and the TC switched off. 7.1 secs, that's thrashing the car to an inch of its life but it does prove the quoted figures are 'dangle berries'.

Accuracy is compromised by "anticipation time" though, which is the difference between the time the needle passes 60 and you pressing the button. The systems that automatically start and stop the timer by directly measuring the car's speed are better for that reason, my bike has one and it's great (can give 1/4 mile time and trap speed too).
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 March 2007, 09:08:52
Done some tests this morning

Repeated it twice after some practice (from 7.0 to 9.4 seconds)

7.8 seconds :y

1) Practice - even with an auto

2) Flat road, no slight slopes - that messes up 0-60 bad

3) Thrash it a bit - mine was a lot slower before warming up with 0-60s

This was petrol - I over pressured the LPG doing petrol runs so I'll try gas tonight
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 March 2007, 10:09:39
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Done some tests this morning

Repeated it twice after some practice (from 7.0 to 9.4 seconds)

7.8 seconds :y

1) Practice - even with an auto

2) Flat road, no slight slopes - that messes up 0-60 bad

3) Thrash it a bit - mine was a lot slower before warming up with 0-60s

This was petrol - I over pressured the LPG doing petrol runs so I'll try gas tonight
Yes, I suspect my attempting it around a roundabout (had to back off slightly), and uphill, and a full tank, and a boot full of crap had a detrimental effect...   ...2-4-6 plug wells being full of oil probably didn't help either :o

Martin, I reckon with the autobox upgrade, you could knock off another 1/10th or 2 as I think it reduces the amount of slip in the TC...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 March 2007, 10:45:09
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Done some tests this morning

Repeated it twice after some practice (from 7.0 to 9.4 seconds)

7.8 seconds :y

1) Practice - even with an auto

2) Flat road, no slight slopes - that messes up 0-60 bad

3) Thrash it a bit - mine was a lot slower before warming up with 0-60s

This was petrol - I over pressured the LPG doing petrol runs so I'll try gas tonight
Yes, I suspect my attempting it around a roundabout (had to back off slightly), and uphill, and a full tank, and a boot full of crap had a detrimental effect...   ...2-4-6 plug wells being full of oil probably didn't help either :o

Martin, I reckon with the autobox upgrade, you could knock off another 1/10th or 2 as I think it reduces the amount of slip in the TC...


Oh thanks for your kind offer!

Oh and

4) Find a quiet country road and practice - even with an auto - first two runs I couldn't get below 9, then it started to go better.

9.n 8.8 8.2 7.0 7.8 7.8

1, slight up hill
2, getting better
3, engine getting warmer
4, Fluffed start, was rolling before pressed button
5, Got it just right
6, Twice!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: amigov6 on 26 March 2007, 20:49:25
Might try that in 2.5cd manual, do'nt know manufactures claimed times. am i ccheating with pipercross duccie kit, more for noise really. 1st gear so short it's almost pointless but pulls & growls like a b*****d in 2nd & hits 60 before the red. Only 97000 so should be ok. Think you've opened a can of worms, we'll all be posting times. Need dry day or i'll be scratting goodstyle. I may be getting old but i refuse to grow up!!!P.S inever use traction control. Night all it's curry time.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Rock on 26 March 2007, 22:40:57
I tried this tonight in my 2.6 auto. 4 runs on a quiet road....

1) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
2) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
3) Sport Mode off - 8.9s
4) Sport Mode off (and climate off, forgot about that b4 the last run) - 8.7s

Should i be disappointed by this, or is this about right? It did have a full tank of fuel, and 6ft 7 / 21stone worth of FB driving it......  ;D
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2007, 08:57:22
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I tried this tonight in my 2.6 auto. 4 runs on a quiet road....

1) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
2) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
3) Sport Mode off - 8.9s
4) Sport Mode off (and climate off, forgot about that b4 the last run) - 8.7s

Should i be disappointed by this, or is this about right? It did have a full tank of fuel, and 6ft 7 / 21stone worth of FB driving it......  ;D
Compared with Martin Imbers 2.6, yours seems a little sluggish, esp the sports mode.  Is it slow to change up? Maybe g/box update may help.  Also, next time the tank is low, fill it up with BT Ultimate or something similar, and see...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2007, 09:00:37
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I tried this tonight in my 2.6 auto. 4 runs on a quiet road....

1) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
2) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
3) Sport Mode off - 8.9s
4) Sport Mode off (and climate off, forgot about that b4 the last run) - 8.7s

Should i be disappointed by this, or is this about right? It did have a full tank of fuel, and 6ft 7 / 21stone worth of FB driving it......  ;D
Still faster than the bright red Corsa though  :P  ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 March 2007, 09:03:05
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I tried this tonight in my 2.6 auto. 4 runs on a quiet road....

1) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
2) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
3) Sport Mode off - 8.9s
4) Sport Mode off (and climate off, forgot about that b4 the last run) - 8.7s

Should i be disappointed by this, or is this about right? It did have a full tank of fuel, and 6ft 7 / 21stone worth of FB driving it......  ;D

Not bad but not good, mine was a hire car though originally!!!!

Done a run today 9.0 seconds, slight drop of power at full revs over petrol, but need to get the gas system recalibrated!

BP Ultimate does work hence 7.8.

If I want to go mad I'll use petrol, but gas is so cheap a slight power loss is no worry.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2007, 09:15:36
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I tried this tonight in my 2.6 auto. 4 runs on a quiet road....

1) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
2) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
3) Sport Mode off - 8.9s
4) Sport Mode off (and climate off, forgot about that b4 the last run) - 8.7s

Should i be disappointed by this, or is this about right? It did have a full tank of fuel, and 6ft 7 / 21stone worth of FB driving it......  ;D

Not bad but not good, mine was a hire car though originally!!!!

Done a run today 9.0 seconds, slight drop of power at full revs over petrol, but need to get the gas system recalibrated!

BP Ultimate does work hence 7.8.

If I want to go mad I'll use petrol, but gas is so cheap a slight power loss is no worry.
It would be a good test to see what decent fuel will achieve - mine was on Asda special mega cheap rubbish, 95ron.  Might try a splash of Ultimate and see...  ...or the 102ron they are selling in MK....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Admin on 27 March 2007, 09:21:24
Remember it will take some time for it to work through the system (dilution ratio with petrol in tank already) and then for the ecu to adjust.

On 102 RON is should be interesting though!  ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2007, 09:24:01
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Remember it will take some time for it to work through the system (dilution ratio with petrol in tank already) and then for the ecu to adjust.

On 102 RON is should be interesting though!  ;)
Every time I fill, trust me, there is nothing for it to dilute!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 March 2007, 12:22:00
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I tried this tonight in my 2.6 auto. 4 runs on a quiet road....

1) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
2) Sport Mode on - 9.3s
3) Sport Mode off - 8.9s
4) Sport Mode off (and climate off, forgot about that b4 the last run) - 8.7s

Should i be disappointed by this, or is this about right? It did have a full tank of fuel, and 6ft 7 / 21stone worth of FB driving it......  ;D

Not bad but not good, mine was a hire car though originally!!!!

Done a run today 9.0 seconds, slight drop of power at full revs over petrol, but need to get the gas system recalibrated!

BP Ultimate does work hence 7.8.

If I want to go mad I'll use petrol, but gas is so cheap a slight power loss is no worry.
It would be a good test to see what decent fuel will achieve - mine was on Asda special mega cheap rubbish, 95ron.  Might try a splash of Ultimate and see...  ...or the 102ron they are selling in MK....


I was pleasantly suprised yesterday, bit annoyed today. BP Ultimate did work on mine, I was expecting maybe 1/2 second slower on gas. But I will make two points.

Full revs, gas not as good, but at 5000 nothing noticable, off the line a little more delay.

The DBW does not like stall speed launches as if you are slightly slow it cuts the throttle.

I think the 5000-6000 section cost me 3/4 second, slower launch 1/4second - very rough figures (I will try again tonight on way home if I don't go to DIY shop)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Rock on 27 March 2007, 12:53:32
I will try some proper fuel on the next fill up. Also, what is involved in a Gearbox Software update? (And how much will it cost me??)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2007, 13:34:17
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I will try some proper fuel on the next fill up. Also, what is involved in a Gearbox Software update? (And how much will it cost me??)
Tech2.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Rock on 27 March 2007, 14:11:37
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I will try some proper fuel on the next fill up. Also, what is involved in a Gearbox Software update? (And how much will it cost me??)
Tech2.

If only i knew someone who had one of those........ ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Markie on 27 March 2007, 15:04:31
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I will try some proper fuel on the next fill up. Also, what is involved in a Gearbox Software update? (And how much will it cost me??)
Tech2.

If only i knew someone who had one of those........ ;)

me too ....In Scotland  :-/
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
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I will try some proper fuel on the next fill up. Also, what is involved in a Gearbox Software update? (And how much will it cost me??)
Tech2.

If only i knew someone who had one of those........ ;)

me too ....In Scotland  :-/
If it goes ahead, are you going to lake district? ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: hotel21 on 28 March 2007, 21:58:17
Managed a consistant 7.5 - 7.8 on a local airfield this afternoon, just me with a 3/4 tank of Optimax, despite having an M-Tek modification.  

Must get the multiram sorted out, still not working properly.  It does not move when the throttle is blipped....   :'(  That would probably help the initial lift off.....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 28 March 2007, 22:06:55
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Managed a consistant 7.5 - 7.8 on a local airfield this afternoon, just me with a 3/4 tank of Optimax, despite having an M-Tek modification.  

Must get the multiram sorted out, still not working properly.  It does not move when the throttle is blipped....   :'(  That would probably help the initial lift off.....

Should be a bit quicker than that if i can get 7.6 from an Elite Auto :-?
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: hotel21 on 28 March 2007, 22:15:52
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Managed a consistant 7.5 - 7.8 on a local airfield this afternoon, just me with a 3/4 tank of Optimax, despite having an M-Tek modification.  

Must get the multiram sorted out, still not working properly.  It does not move when the throttle is blipped....   :'(  That would probably help the initial lift off.....

Should be a bit quicker than that if i can get 7.6 from an Elite Auto :-?

Yup, hence the multiram comment....   :'(  and must do it next time with less fuel in the tank!!   ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 29 March 2007, 22:09:58
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Managed a consistant 7.5 - 7.8 on a local airfield this afternoon, just me with a 3/4 tank of Optimax, despite having an M-Tek modification.  

Must get the multiram sorted out, still not working properly.  It does not move when the throttle is blipped....   :'(  That would probably help the initial lift off.....
multiram will make a difference...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 April 2007, 21:55:06
7.7s :D

Anyone got better out of a slushy?

I reckon there is still more in there, it bounced on the rev limiter before changing gear, not sure why.  May have been because the EML is on ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 03 April 2007, 22:00:48
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Does this answer your question Jaime ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 April 2007, 22:06:06
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Does this answer your question Jaime ::)
Bugger.  I know the gearchange lost a tenth or so as it bounced off the rev limiter. Must try again without EML on ::)

Still, as EP's old car was chipped, I am happy with that.
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Post by: Timbuk on 03 April 2007, 22:09:00
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I actually did this the other day also, in EP's old Elite which is now my Dads new Elite, just before i dropped it off at his house. Set the Stopwatch and floored it, hit 60 and stopped it, 0-60... 7.6 sec :o Don't know how accurate this was as it was done by myself and i only tried it once, but this car is chipped so could be possible ;)

Does this answer your question Jaime ::)
Bugger.  I know the gearchange lost a tenth or so as it bounced off the rev limiter. Must try again without EML on ::)

Still, as EP's old car was chipped, I am happy with that.

Still not an MV6 though ::) but i reckon that is pretty good for yours  :) ;)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Bo Bo on 03 April 2007, 22:15:44
Must give this a try now I have one again  ::)
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 03 April 2007, 22:18:48
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Must give this a try now I have one again  ::)
If your slushy is old firmware, I reckon low to mid 8s, possibly lower if it has been well looked after and serviced...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 April 2007, 22:51:00
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7.7s :D

Anyone got better out of a slushy?

I reckon there is still more in there, it bounced on the rev limiter before changing gear, not sure why.  May have been because the EML is on ::)

Not bad - getting there

0.1 quicker than mine :y
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Bo Bo on 03 April 2007, 22:51:23
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Must give this a try now I have one again  ::)
If your slushy is old firmware, I reckon low to mid 8s, possibly lower if it has been well looked after and serviced...
The upgrade is something I definately want to do, trouble is getting the time when I'm on nights...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 06 April 2007, 19:26:54
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Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?

The Boy, I think the ZX10 may have to be unleashed soon  :y
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2007, 20:59:56
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Though I guess I shouldn't be doing such things, knowing full well the cam cover gasket is donald ducked....  :-?

The Boy, I think the ZX10 may have to be unleashed soon  :y
If you can keep the front down (fairly easy on ZX10), a good ZX10 will be impressive.  Mine, alas, has a small problem with 1st to 2nd change at high revs, so 0 - 60 tests are out of the question now...
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: ClarCE on 22 April 2007, 22:02:14
Flat road, 1/4 of tank fuel (super unleaded (99 RON)) myself (12.5 Stone) passenger (12 stone - reading the speedo so I could look at the road and just click the stop button when he shouted)

2.5 V6 Saloon, 3.0 Cams, Chipped, Autobox with upgraded firmware, new exhaust, sport mode activated..

7.1, 7.1, 7.1

Standing to 60.

How impressed was I?!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 April 2007, 22:16:44
Very good >:(

I have some work to do!
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Timbuk on 22 April 2007, 22:20:39
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Flat road, 1/4 of tank fuel (super unleaded (99 RON)) myself (12.5 Stone) passenger (12 stone - reading the speedo so I could look at the road and just click the stop button when he shouted)

2.5 V6 Saloon, 3.0 Cams, Chipped, Autobox with upgraded firmware, new exhaust, sport mode activated..

7.1, 7.1, 7.1

Standing to 60.

How impressed was I?!

Think i had better get my cams changed :o
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Bo Bo on 22 April 2007, 22:26:18
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Flat road, 1/4 of tank fuel (super unleaded (99 RON)) myself (12.5 Stone) passenger (12 stone - reading the speedo so I could look at the road and just click the stop button when he shouted)

2.5 V6 Saloon, 3.0 Cams, Chipped, Autobox with upgraded firmware, new exhaust, sport mode activated..

7.1, 7.1, 7.1

Standing to 60.

How impressed was I?!

Think i had better get my cams changed :o
Now my cambelt & breather's are done; I think I might be trying this very soon....
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: Admin on 22 April 2007, 22:32:06
7.1 secs??  :o

Clearly an Mtek chip and 3.0 cams in a 2.5 engine works very well!  8-)

Once the front springs and dampers are changed in the MV6 (manual  ;)) I (and I know Mark will try it!) will see what it gives.
Oh, and it is chipped.
Title: Re: 0 - 60 time?
Post by: ClarCE on 22 April 2007, 22:39:21
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7.1 secs??  :o

I know - I had to do it three times to believe it.

The only thing that could be making it seem better than it is is that I have 50 profile tyres, rather than the 55 I'm supposed to have - I only just remembered this now when I was outside admiring my work again ;)