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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 26 June 2010, 22:51:45
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Of course Banjax will say that, because this is in the Daily Mail, it can't true. ;)
For everyone else, though:
"EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen: Shopkeepers' fury as they are told all food must be weighed and sold by the kilo"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289882/EU-ban-selling-eggs-dozen-Shopkeepers-fury-told-food-weighed-sold-kilo.html
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in a period of time where most counties are trying to save money big style, could we not get rid of those whos whole day is spent creating more pointless regs?
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In these times of austerity .... how much are these changes going to cost the food retail industry ??
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in a period of time where most counties are trying to save money big style, could we not get rid of those whos whole day is spent creating more pointless regs?
Spot on, Tapper! :y
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I should point out that this is not a done deal and it will be next year before the EU is able to pass the necessary laws.
So, come on, you Cleggerons. There's still time to fight it! :y
Bet they don't, though. :(
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I can't see how that makes sense :-?
We had enough bollocking about with bananas and cucumbers - now this?
This is the natural consequence of a legislature that has focus on the trivia of homologation and compliance rather than be concerned with the more pressing matter of impending financial disaster.
In fact, I think the following message should be sent to those assiduous MEP's who think this latest wheeze is a good idea.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9VqIoOKIws&feature=related[/media]
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I can't see how that makes sense :-?
We had enough bollocking about with bananas and cucumbers - now this?
This is the natural consequence of a legislature that has focus on the trivia of homologation and compliance rather than be concerned with the more pressing matter of impending financial disaster.
In fact, I think the following message should be sent to those assiduous MEP's who think this latest wheeze is a good idea.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9VqIoOKIws&feature=related[/media]
was expecting a bit more video/dialog, short and sweet!
;D ;D ;D
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They've tried this with fruit & veg etc. Being British we did what we do best & did'nt take a blind bit of notice. I buy my veggies & duck eggs from various smallholdings & farmshops in Lincs. by the pound/dozen etc. & will continue to do so regardless of anything these non jobs come up with. ::)
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We buy what we need not by weight - eg 8 potatoes ect
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We buy what we need not by weight - eg 8 potatoes ect
The seller still weighs them!
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We buy what we need not by weight - eg 8 potatoes ect
Similar here, or just pour them out, or a handful or that looks about right, :D :D but eggs by the dozen or perhaps 1/2 dozen.....as it should be.... :y
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
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why fix something which aint broke?
6/12 eggs medium or large, check the box, who cares what it weighs?
or is that the point of this non job legislation?
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I rather like the idea of seven eggs to a box. Just to be awkward, you understand.
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Don't tell them that car wheel diameters (for some VERY peculiar reason ;D ;D) are specified in inches!!!
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Don't tell them that car wheel diameters (for some VERY peculiar reason ;D ;D) are specified in inches!!!
And PCD in mm
Try modelling.
I model in a scale of roughly 76.2/1
or 4mm of model = 1 foot
As the real ones were mainly imperial - easy conversion :y
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On another thread the issue of decimalisation was discussed, and I certainly made the point how it made commercial transactions so much easier.
So I fail to see why we should not have all goods sold in metric quantities, including eggs. I already buy bottled and canned drinks, meat, marg and butter in metric packs, along with fuel and lengths of wood or fabric. Builders and engineers work in metric quantities. It makes the calculation of actual cost so much easier, and when shopping I can look out for the best deals per unit.
Why should eggs, and milk for that matter, be any different and not be in metric quantities?
As another issue our kids are taught in metric at school, as they have been for decades now.
Thank God in 1971 this country was forward thinking enough to go decimal with it's coinage. Let's be forward thinking now and go completely metric. ;) ;)
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Perhaps they could be sold in 10's instead ;D
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On another thread the issue of decimalisation was discussed, and I certainly made the point how it made commercial transactions so much easier.
So I fail to see why we should not have all goods sold in metric quantities, including eggs. I already buy bottled and canned drinks, meat, marg and butter in metric packs, along with fuel and lengths of wood or fabric. Builders and engineers work in metric quantities. It makes the calculation of actual cost so much easier, and when shopping I can look out for the best deals per unit.
Why should eggs, and milk for that matter, be any different and not be in metric quantities?
As another issue our kids are taught in metric at school, as they have been for decades now.
Thank God in 1971 this country was forward thinking enough to go decimal with it's coinage. Let's be forward thinking now and go completely metric. ;) ;)
Setting aside my views about the 'EU' as it's presently constituted and where it seems to be heading, I'm more than happy to agree with you E on your concern about the 'half-way house' approach to this.
Either we have a system based on the metric scale or we don't - this hybrid we currently see is confusing if nothing else. The change should have been made years ago.
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I can just imagine the spectacle of the guy at the deli counter cracking eggs into the pan and watching the scales. ;D
Whatever they're smoking in Brussels, I want some. :)
Kevin
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Perhaps they could be sold in 10's instead ;D
Exactly my point Zulu, and why not? :D :D ;)
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Egg-zactly, Liz, surely? ;)
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if each egg weighs 50g does this mean we have to buy a box of 20 at a time, a box of 6 lasts me 2 weeks if tom doesnt stay
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
Sorry E, I've just seen your earlier post ;D :y I'm 5 minutes behind everyone else as I'm typing in a semi recumbent position. :y
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On another thread the issue of decimalisation was discussed, and I certainly made the point how it made commercial transactions so much easier.
So I fail to see why we should not have all goods sold in metric quantities, including eggs. I already buy bottled and canned drinks, meat, marg and butter in metric packs, along with fuel and lengths of wood or fabric. Builders and engineers work in metric quantities. It makes the calculation of actual cost so much easier, and when shopping I can look out for the best deals per unit.
Why should eggs, and milk for that matter, be any different and not be in metric quantities?
As another issue our kids are taught in metric at school, as they have been for decades now.
Thank God in 1971 this country was forward thinking enough to go decimal with it's coinage. Let's be forward thinking now and go completely metric. ;) ;)
Setting aside my views about the 'EU' as it's presently constituted and where it seems to be heading, I'm more than happy to agree with you E on your concern about the 'half-way house' approach to this.
Either we have a system based on the metric scale or we don't - this hybrid we currently see is confusing if nothing else. The change should have been made years ago.
:y :y :y :y :y
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
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if i buy a door for a job i usually go for feet and inches
i.e. 6'6x2'6 most builders do but measuring distance i go for the easiest figure which could be 6ft dead on rather than 1828mm, which is the easiest to remember when you have to go and cut a piece of wood. a lot of young people on site dont know how many 1/16ths in an inch, its great confusing them ;D ;D
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
I agree with that E as it seems to more sensible than trying to sell them by weight which is what the aritcle was suggesting these propopsals to be.
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.
It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.
You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. ::)
The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! >:(
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.
It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.
You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. ::)
The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! >:(
selling beer in litres suits me if it sells for 3quid a litre instead of 3 for a pint :y
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.
It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.
You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. ::)
The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! >:(
Don't worry Nick, we know that will never happen as the major players in the market - the supermarket chains of Britain - will stop any moves to stop selling eggs by quantity, and this "story" is just another piece of D.Mail scaremongering.
But what I am saying is eggs should be packed in metric quantities, with no more dogma about sticking to imperial measurement. It is so dated and cumbersome. ;) ;)
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Don't worry Nick, we know that will never happen as the major players in the market - the supermarket chains of Britain - will stop any moves to stop selling eggs by quantity, and this "story" is just another piece of D.Mail scaremongering.
But what I am saying is eggs should be packed in metric quantities, with no more dogma about sticking to imperial measurement. It is so dated and cumbersome. ;) ;)
But why use the term "should be"? Producers/retailers can currently sell eggs in any number they want (you can buy them in 15s at Cosco). My point is why should any agency use statutory instruments to force the sale in multiples of 10?
It is a bizarre waste of time. Has anyone complained that our centuries-old tradition of selling eggs by the dozen is "cumbersome"? I don't think so. >:(
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And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.
Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.
Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.
Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.
On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.
I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less. ;D ;D ;D Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries. :y
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And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.
Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.
Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.
Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.
On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.
I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less. ;D ;D ;D Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries. :y
you're right Varche, we get worked up about it, the rest of europe simply ignores it if its not useful or practical - can't we relax a bit? i couldnt give 2 hoots about this to be honest, but if it bothers you, refuse to buy any eggs labelled in weight and not number......tesco's et al would soon ditch it, but as usual most of us couldnt care, despite the klaxons, spinning wheels, squawking and flapping arms of the Daily Mails' finest ;) ;D
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And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.
Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.
Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.
Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.
On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.
I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less. ;D ;D ;D Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries. :y
Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.
Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.
Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.
Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.
Varche - please don't take this the wrong way, but I may have finally fallen in love with you :-* :-*
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And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.
Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.
Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.
Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.
On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.
I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less. ;D ;D ;D Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries. :y
you're right Varche, we get worked up about it, the rest of europe simply ignores it if its not useful or practical - can't we relax a bit? i couldnt give 2 hoots about this to be honest, but if it bothers you, refuse to buy any eggs labelled in weight and not number......tesco's et al would soon ditch it, but as usual most of us couldnt care, despite the klaxons, spinning wheels, squawking and flapping arms of the Daily Mails' finest ;) ;D
:o How dare you BJ, >:( >:( it also appeared in the Telegraph as well!!
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Varche, you make some good points there!
Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.
(It won't please Lizzie to read that!! ;) ;D)
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Varche, you make some good points there!
Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.
(It won't please Lizzie to read that!! ;) ;D)
;D ;D ;D ;D Yes, and why is that? Because the USA is the world's superpower and produces a majority of the world's aircraft, with also a very large market for aircraft, so following on from Britain's Empire, it makes sense at this time to retain English as the key language and feet for gauging height. Another century, in another time, who knows!! :D :D :D ;)
But when it comes to unit measurement and weight for the produce we ship and receive from across the world, well I still hold with my views, for commercial and consumer reasons, that we should go fully metric. It just makes pure common sense as well 8-) 8-) :D :D ;)
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Varche, you make some good points there!
Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.
(It won't please Lizzie to read that!! ;) ;D)
International Golf. All in Yardage. I believe.
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Varche, you make some good points there!
Also, international air traffic control is conducted in English using feet for flight levels and knots for windspeed.
(It won't please Lizzie to read that!! ;) ;D)
International Golf. All in Yardage. I believe.
Yes, Varche, and racehorses are still traded in guineas...
..and gold is traded in troy ounces (from Saxon times)
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if cameron didnt have the bottle to stand up to obama over the bp crisis he definatly wont stand up to the eu.
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
That's how most people buy them BJ however the point was that there seems to a directive in the offing that will force suppliers to package and sell eggs by weight - with all that it implies for production/package costs and, of course, the inevitable enforcement cost.
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I can see myself looking in the isle for eggs to see howmnay there are in a box when i pay a visit ti to supermarket next time in over on continent :y :y :y I 'm surprised someone never brought up the old chestnut about us changing over to LHD ::) ::) ::)
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What a load of tosh. They'll be asking us to change all our speedos & road signs to KM next
Well here's a good old British sign
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Waspy_01/198.jpg)
all you EU Muppets >:(
Sorry Pete, but I find your post insulting.
Once more a "political" type thread which was being debated very nicely and politely suddenly degenerates into insults. Why?????
Alert button pressed.
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What a load of tosh. They'll be asking us to change all our speedos & road signs to KM next
Well here's a good old British sign
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Waspy_01/198.jpg)
all you EU Muppets >:(
Sorry Pete, but I find your post insulting.
Once more a "political" type thread which was being debated very nicely and politely suddenly degenerates into insults. Why?????
Alert button pressed.
Oh dear oh dear. Well i saved you the bother.
I was expressing my thoughts has do you & all others.
As far as i'm concerened the EU can go & get ...........
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What a load of tosh. They'll be asking us to change all our speedos & road signs to KM next
Well here's a good old British sign
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Waspy_01/198.jpg)
all you EU Muppets >:(
Sorry Pete, but I find your post insulting.
Once more a "political" type thread which was being debated very nicely and politely suddenly degenerates into insults. Why?????
Alert button pressed.
Oh dear oh dear. Well i saved you the bother.
I was expressing my thoughts has do you & all others.
As far as i'm concerened the EU can go & get ...........
FANTASTIC! When?
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What a load of tosh. They'll be asking us to change all our speedos & road signs to KM next
Well here's a good old British sign
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Waspy_01/198.jpg)
all you EU Muppets >:(
Sorry Pete, but I find your post insulting.
Once more a "political" type thread which was being debated very nicely and politely suddenly degenerates into insults. Why?????
Alert button pressed.
Oh, P L E A S E! Insulting? Alert button?
Unless I am mistaken, Pete was suggesting a two-finger salute to the European Superstate and the clowns that run it. What can you possibly find insulting about that?
::) ::) ::) >:(
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And we are off again. Like I keep saying we are members of the EU club (like it or not) so we need to step up to the mark and make our voice heard. Over to you Mr Cameron. This sort of stupid waste of taxpayers money (cos that is how they are paid) needs to also be included in austerity measures too.
Here is a practical Spanish perspective on things.
Bananas and Cucumbers. They sell any old shapes here. always have and always will.
Same with Tomatoes and other fruit and veg. I think it is a uniquely British thing to actually get wound up to obey any rules. In fact Britain will employ an army of inspectors to crack down on anyone who bends the "law" by even a fraction. As a Nationality we are so up our own jacksies.
On a lighter note, Piping and tubing is sold here in "pulgadas", Inches in other words. So you go and buy so many metres of tubing at say 1 and a quarter inch diameter. I think that must be a hangover from the time when the Victorians led the world in engineering. Some of the more common sizes (like in the UK) are also in metric e.g. 15mm. I haven't found out for sure yet but suspect threads on bolts will be the same as UK standards too.
I asked a couple of Spanish guys recently why Tyres and wheels on all their cars were in inches not in metric. They hadn't a clue and cared even less. ;D ;D ;D Again that illustrates their mentality.
But then these are the same people who would never dream of having a foreigner manage their football team or fill their supermarkets with food from loads of foreign countries. :y
you're right Varche, we get worked up about it, the rest of europe simply ignores it if its not useful or practical - can't we relax a bit? i couldnt give 2 hoots about this to be honest, but if it bothers you, refuse to buy any eggs labelled in weight and not number......tesco's et al would soon ditch it, but as usual most of us couldnt care, despite the klaxons, spinning wheels, squawking and flapping arms of the Daily Mails' finest ;) ;D
:o How dare you BJ, >:( >:( it also appeared in the Telegraph as well!!
;D ;D ;D :y and the Scotsman ;)
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What a load of tosh. They'll be asking us to change all our speedos & road signs to KM next
Well here's a good old British sign
(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn231/Waspy_01/198.jpg)
all you EU Muppets >:(
Sorry Pete, but I find your post insulting.
Once more a "political" type thread which was being debated very nicely and politely suddenly degenerates into insults. Why?????
Alert button pressed.
Oh, P L E A S E! Insulting? Alert button?
Unless I am mistaken, Pete was suggesting a two-finger salute to the European Superstate and the clowns that run it. What can you possibly find insulting about that?
::) ::) ::) >:(
A two fingered sign and "to all you EU Muppets"
I found that insulting and why again should these threads [on an International Forum] degenerate into insults yet again?? What is wrong with saying "I don't agree with Europe and the arguments for staying in, along with conforming to their dictates"??
No instead, showing a lack of vocabulary again, somebody has to insult anyone who happens to have an opposite view point, with a "you" that I see as personal.
Once more I have got to say it is just not worth debating politics on the OOF, as the membership cannot do it in peace. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
........two boxes of eggs from Iceland today......one box contained ten eggs ......the other fifteen..... :)
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
........two boxes of eggs from Iceland today......one box contained ten eggs ......the other fifteen..... :)
Brilliant Optimist, so some are going in the right direction! :y :y
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A two fingered sign and "to all you EU Muppets"
I found that insulting and why again should these threads [on an International Forum] degenerate into insults yet again?? What is wrong with saying "I don't agree with Europe and the arguments for staying in, along with conforming to their dictates"??
No instead, showing a lack of vocabulary again, somebody has to insult anyone who happens to have an opposite view point, with a "you" that I see as personal.
Once more I have got to say it is just not worth debating politics on the OOF, as the membership cannot do it in peace. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
For goodness sake, Lizzie! There was no indication that the comment was directed at you personally.
Mind you, the comment about a member having a lack of vocabulary is borderline insulting.
Not everyone is able to articulate their feelings textually. That does not preclude them from having, or voicing, an opinion.
>:(
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In a good post on the subject, one of the UK's more prominent bloggers, The Devil's Kitchen, rightly points out that this measure,
if when implemented, will logically lead to higher food costs, as producers will need to purchase equipment to measure the weight of each egg, alter labelling, and so on.
Of course, having thought about the post, I would speculate that higher costs will hardly be an incentive to more free-range and organic methods of egg production - but rather more towards an increase in battery farming. So the poor and the chickens suffer, but the EU muppets win. :( >:(
http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/2010/06/eggs-by-kilo.html
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Those of you who feel really strongly about stuff like this should act. Make your feelings known to officialdom and boycott the product.
Admittedly, it probably wont make a huge difference but it might make you feel better :-/
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
........two boxes of eggs from Iceland today......one box contained ten eggs ......the other fifteen..... :)
Does this prove that the population of the country are not numerate? :D
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
........two boxes of eggs from Iceland today......one box contained ten eggs ......the other fifteen..... :)
Does this prove that the population of the country are not numerate? :D
no, icelands got some sticky fingered - bulgy pocket customers. ::)
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can't you open the box and count? i don't think i'd go to war over this to be honest ;)
when was the last time anyone on here asked for a dozen eggs? dont you just pick up a box, check to see they're not cracked and move on to the tea and coffee section....like everyone else? ::)
........two boxes of eggs from Iceland today......one box contained ten eggs ......the other fifteen..... :)
Does this prove that the population of the country are not numerate? :D
no, icelands got some sticky fingered - bulgy pocket customers. ::)
Iceland the country -geddit?
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A two fingered sign and "to all you EU Muppets"
I found that insulting and why again should these threads [on an International Forum] degenerate into insults yet again?? What is wrong with saying "I don't agree with Europe and the arguments for staying in, along with conforming to their dictates"??
No instead, showing a lack of vocabulary again, somebody has to insult anyone who happens to have an opposite view point, with a "you" that I see as personal.
Once more I have got to say it is just not worth debating politics on the OOF, as the membership cannot do it in peace. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
For goodness sake, Lizzie! There was no indication that the comment was directed at you personally.
Mind you, the comment about a member having a lack of vocabulary is borderline insulting.
Not everyone is able to articulate their feelings textually. That does not preclude them from having, or voicing, an opinion.
>:(
I have just read all of this thread.
If I went to buy some eggs I would think "Do I need a dozen or a dozen and a half??" It is an old tradition to me, which should perhaps stay, everything seems to be getting takens away by the Non British people.. :(
On the matter of raising the alert, personally I didn't see anything wrong with what Pete said either.... but, Lizzie I too thought you saying someone/other members having a lack of vocabulary was Very Insulting.
Think people need to realise that conversations/debates are a two way thing, not one person shouting expecting everyone to do what they want or say... the sooner we start realising it the better things will be.
In my opinion of cause :)
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Does it really matter how you buy eggs??
Every recipe I have ever used says something like "use two eggs" or separate the yolks of three eggs from the whites"so if you bought six or seven or even twelve, would only give you differing amounts left to make more cakes!!!
(ok, that was a little useless info, but it lightened the tone a bit..............................)
I suppose the point here is the fact that somebody other than your own government is trying to TELL you how you should buy your own eggs?????
Its no yolk, I tell you!!
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Does it really matter how you buy eggs??
Every recipe I have ever used says something like "use two eggs" or separate the yolks of three eggs from the whites"so if you bought six or seven or even twelve, would only give you differing amounts left to make more cakes!!!
(ok, that was a little useless info, but it lightened the tone a bit..............................)
I suppose the point here is the fact that somebody other than your own government is trying to TELL you how you should buy your own eggs?????
Its no yolk, I tell you!!
Have to laugh at this, because... my Mum used to weigh her eggs when doing a Sponge Cake, then put the rest of the ingredients in at the weigh of the eggs ;D ;D ;D
if that makes sense :D
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Perhaps we should consider the import of what we're saying here :-/ :-/
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsBDEiJFrws[/media]
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stand down, people - the panic's over :y
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/scrambled-ndash-the-eu-threat-to-british-eggs-2015264.html
"Look away Eurosceptics. Those meddling Brussels bureaucrats have let you down again and are not going to ban the sale of eggs by the dozen.
To the disappointment of red-top newspapers and irate contributors to talk radio, the European Union confirmed yesterday that MEPs had not voted to do away with a cherished feature of Great British life.
In an emergency statement, the European Parliament said: "Selling eggs by the dozen will not be illegal under the terms of the amendments adopted to EU food labelling proposals. Labels will still be able to indicate the number of items in a pack – whether it's eggs, bread rolls or fish fingers."
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stand down, people - the panic's over :y
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/scrambled-ndash-the-eu-threat-to-british-eggs-2015264.html
"Look away Eurosceptics. Those meddling Brussels bureaucrats have let you down again and are not going to ban the sale of eggs by the dozen.
To the disappointment of red-top newspapers and irate contributors to talk radio, the European Union confirmed yesterday that MEPs had not voted to do away with a cherished feature of Great British life.
In an emergency statement, the European Parliament said: "Selling eggs by the dozen will not be illegal under the terms of the amendments adopted to EU food labelling proposals. Labels will still be able to indicate the number of items in a pack – whether it's eggs, bread rolls or fish fingers."
Very welcome news indeed BJ :y :y
What next demands our care?
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What a relief. Common sense prevails. Britain will now be able to deploy its army of inspectors to make sure no one is misselling eggs and "crack" down on offenders. Meanwhile France and Spain will just merrily continue doing whatever they have always done completely oblivious to these EU shenanigans. The "yolk" is on us! ;D ;D
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Do you EGGSPECT us to believe this???
If you are not, its CRACKING news!!
(coat, car, zoom)
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What a relief. Common sense prevails. Britain will now be able to deploy its army of inspectors to make sure no one is misselling eggs and "crack" down on offenders. Meanwhile France and Spain will just merrily continue doing whatever they have always done completely oblivious to these EU shenanigans. The "yolk" is on us! ;D ;D
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYEC84XIUiE&feature=related[/media]
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We have narrowly missed-out on the abolition of the eleven and twelve-times tables in schools! ;D ;D ;D
Grade increases may level-out if the little darlings have their minds stretched that much. :D :D :D
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What a relief. Common sense prevails. Britain will now be able to deploy its army of inspectors to make sure no one is misselling eggs and "crack" down on offenders. Meanwhile France and Spain will just merrily continue doing whatever they have always done completely oblivious to these EU shenanigans. The "yolk" is on us! ;D ;D
Meanwhile France and Spain will just merrily continue doing whatever they have always done completely oblivious to these EU shenanigans
That's the one there Snr, :y :y
Perhaps that's the secret of survival within the EU - if so, we could happily remain on board and play the game like the rest :-/ :-/
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.
It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.
You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. ::)
The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! >:(
Don't worry Nick, we know that will never happen as the major players in the market - the supermarket chains of Britain - will stop any moves to stop selling eggs by quantity, and this "story" is just another piece of D.Mail scaremongering.
But what I am saying is eggs should be packed in metric quantities, with no more dogma about sticking to imperial measurement. It is so dated and cumbersome. ;) ;)
So I was right again! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;)
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I must be missing something here: What madman would weigh eggs anyway? :-/
Can't remember ever seeing a recipe that called for "250g of Egg". ;D
Kevin
You don't of course weigh eggs, no more than have a receipy dictating weight of eggs Kevin.
But when you are packaging, costing, retailing and purchasing eggs it is far easier and commercially sensible to deal in metric calculation. ;) ;)
Having declared my support for the metric system I'm still trying to understand why an item such as (in this case) eggs can't be sold by numerical quantity rather than weight as the system embraces both measurements.
Does it really make that much difference to packaging, costing and so on?
????? Sorry Zulu, I do not understand your point. Eggs ARE sold in numerical quantity - 6s, 12s, 18s ;) ;)
Those quantities I suggest should be 5s, 10s, 20s ;) ;)
That is precisely the point. The EU is proposing that we CAN'T advertise/sell eggs in numeric quantities, only by weight. Thus, it has nothing to do with metrication.
It's plainly a case of rules for rules' sake.
You wait. Next it will be illegal to sell beer in pints. ::)
The main point is why should an outside agency dictate to us how we should sell eggs? FFS! >:(
Don't worry Nick, we know that will never happen as the major players in the market - the supermarket chains of Britain - will stop any moves to stop selling eggs by quantity, and this "story" is just another piece of D.Mail scaremongering.
But what I am saying is eggs should be packed in metric quantities, with no more dogma about sticking to imperial measurement. It is so dated and cumbersome. ;) ;)
So I was right again! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;)
Yes, a splendid piece of analysis E 8-) :y