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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: jereboam on 05 July 2010, 12:21:46
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If this forum ever closes, I don't know where I'll go to get things fixed.
OK - dishwasher packed up a few weeks ago - we don't use it much, with just the two of us here. I diagnosed the fault - outlet pipe blocked. Cleaned it all out and it's pumping again. It's also pumping hot soapy water over the dishes at the appropriate stages in the cycle. I'm not sure about the rinse stage - the water looks too mucky, and has more foam in it than I would expect.
But the main problem is that the dishes aren't coming out clean.
Anyone got any suggestions? I wonder if the pump has lost power and isn't shifting enough water at a high enouh pressure, but I've not really got a clue. :(
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erm, Checked her Pulse, checked she is feeling ok?
Missed her Birthday / Anniversary?
Asked if there are any reasons why she is not doing the dishes properly?
;D ;D ;D
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pmsl ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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erm, Checked her Pulse, checked she is feeling ok?
Missed her Birthday / Anniversary?
Asked if there are any reasons why she is not doing the dishes properly?
;D ;D ;D
Thanks to Unemployment, I am in charge of domestic services round here. The management hasn't washed a dish since I got made redundant. The management is also the sole income earner, so I do what I'm told. :(
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OK then.............
firstly put a proprietory dishwasher cleaner through it, (eg Finish or similar), then flush through with a hot clean with out any powder/rince agent in it. then, because the pump is not very strong (whatever the make) make sure the waste pipe is not too high, long, or kinked.
Lastly, the inherrent problem with ALL dishwashers is the drain in the bottom, keep it clean and unobstructed with food that comes off of the dishes you put in it, unless you clean out this it will be slow to empty and leave dishes dirty.
PLEASE NOTE: This advice comes from my brother, who installs white goods for a living. Good Advice from a CAR forum...............
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What sort of detergent are you using J – and, forgive me, are you using the correct programme?
As SS has suggested, these may be issues that result from the lack of adequate drainage. As you've cleared the outlet pipe and the filter, the restriction may be further along the drain. In a lot of cases when dishwashers are under-used or used at low temperature cycles, fat and soap deposits accumulate in the drain restricting the diameter and causing a degree of back pressure.
Assuming your machine drains into a standard 40mm pipe and thence into the main foul water drain you may have to check this 40mm pipe for obstructions.
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Time to clean out entire machine. Not just the filters, but the sump, and the corregated pipe. Also, ensure the spray arms haven't got bits of food/plastic/general crap stuck in the holes.
Then its worth using a proper dishwasher cleaner as suggested - I use Finish, but only because its always on offer at the cash and carry, else I'd use Tescos! Occasionally, I give ours a minimal load, but use the mega hot/long wash to help keep it clean (though in my case, thats normally because assorted car parts are in there, and she gets a right monk on if I wash them with the dishes)
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Is it me or have all the responses only come from blokes?? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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just had an email from Aldi...
they have dishwasher cleaner on special this week
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys.htm
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just had an email from Aldi...
they have dishwasher cleaner on special this week
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys.htm
Aldi email you?? Sad, very sad. ;D
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just had an email from Aldi...
they have dishwasher cleaner on special this week
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys.htm
Aldi email you?? Sad, very sad. ;D
Yep, the email was about SDS drills....just happened to have some womens stuff on it too :-[
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just had an email from Aldi...
they have dishwasher cleaner on special this week
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys.htm
Costco frequently have the Finish ones at BOGOF, so £5 (+VAT) for 2 ;)
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OK then.............
firstly put a proprietory dishwasher cleaner through it, (eg Finish or similar), then flush through with a hot clean with out any powder/rince agent in it. then, because the pump is not very strong (whatever the make) make sure the waste pipe is not too high, long, or kinked.
Lastly, the inherrent problem with ALL dishwashers is the drain in the bottom, keep it clean and unobstructed with food that comes off of the dishes you put in it, unless you clean out this it will be slow to empty and leave dishes dirty.
PLEASE NOTE: This advice comes from my brother, who installs white goods for a living. Good Advice from a CAR forum...............
I've done the dishwasher cleaner business, and I've cleaned out the bit at the bottom where the rubbish accumulates. However, I expect that there are some hidden areas I haven't got to yet, and there may be crap there. I think the outlet hose is OK, because I had it emptying into bucket, and it was flowing quite well.
What sort of detergent are you using J – and, forgive me, are you using the correct programme?
As SS has suggested, these may be issues that result from the lack of adequate drainage. As you've cleared the outlet pipe and the filter, the restriction may be further along the drain. In a lot of cases when dishwashers are under-used or used at low temperature cycles, fat and soap deposits accumulate in the drain restricting the diameter and causing a degree of back pressure.
Assuming your machine drains into a standard 40mm pipe and thence into the main foul water drain you may have to check this 40mm pipe for obstructions.
I was using Fairy tablets, now I'm using Morrison's Cyclon tablets. And, as we've had the machine for 12 years, I'm fairly confident I'm using the right program. Especially since I had to replace the casing for the control module last year after the program selection became somewhat random.
And when I cleared the obstruction in the outlet, I took the opportunity to clean, degrease and bleach all the undersink pipework. So I don't think it's an an outlet blockage.
Time to clean out entire machine. Not just the filters, but the sump, and the corregated pipe. Also, ensure the spray arms haven't got bits of food/plastic/general crap stuck in the holes.
Then its worth using a proper dishwasher cleaner as suggested - I use Finish, but only because its always on offer at the cash and carry, else I'd use Tescos! Occasionally, I give ours a minimal load, but use the mega hot/long wash to help keep it clean (though in my case, thats normally because assorted car parts are in there, and she gets a right monk on if I wash them with the dishes)
Think you're right - there's probably hidden crap somewhere. I don't think there's a problem with the spray arms, and there's a reasonable flow through the outlet pipe.
I may try an "intensive" wash to see if that clears it out, but I'll see what I can take apart first.
Thanks, everyone. :) :) :)
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just had an email from Aldi...
they have dishwasher cleaner on special this week
http://www.aldi.co.uk/uk/html/offers/special_buys.htm
It was Aldi dishwasher cleaner I used after clearing the blockage. :) I bought it last time it was on offer. :) :) I might have a go with Finish, but at £3 a go, I don't buy it unless it's on offer.
And what's wrong with getting the Aldi offers e-mail? Mine's just arrived, along with the one from Lidl.
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Yep, the email was about SDS drills....just happened to have some womens stuff on it too :-[
Isn`t an 'SDS drill' classified as women`s stuff? ::)
.....I rather fancy it is-so at Deb`s towers. ;D
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I may try an "intensive" wash to see if that clears it out, but I'll see what I can take apart first.
Thanks, everyone. :) :) :)
try http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=33 for more specific help
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have you taken the salt box out as muck can stay in there, and is the filter ok??
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I may try an "intensive" wash to see if that clears it out, but I'll see what I can take apart first.
Thanks, everyone. :) :) :)
try http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=33 for more specific help
Helpful website - thanks.
have you taken the salt box out as muck can stay in there, and is the filter ok??
Dont think it's removable - it's under the floor of the machine. However, next time it needs refilling, I'll have a look in there with a torch.
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it can be removed but if you take the filler off and water should come out see what colour it is, if a pipe gets blocked it send's it in the salt box, run a few times empty.
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My Bosch dishwasher deciided to call it a day a few weeks ago....i diagnosed the prob...the machine didnt know how much water was in it....and the overfill sensor kept kicking in and stopping it working. I gave it a clean as best i could and even took the water matrix panel off and gave it a good flushing out, but to no avail.
After asking a domestic repairer about the problem.....his comment was "dishwashers...nightmare to fix"...."how old is it?" When i said about 15yrs old....i agreed with his response......"time for a new one"
So i now have a new Indesit one.....which is rated AAA......and for £200, a more economical machine to run...probably a good decision.
Tho as jereboam may have more time on his hands.....worth giving it a good go at fixing it.....id spent nearly a day trying to sort mine out....and come to the conclusion, as im self employed, wasting any more time on it....wasnt worth it.
Good luck with it jereboam :y