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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Squealey on 06 July 2010, 21:39:45
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First off, a quick bit of background.
About six months after I moved into my (rented) house some nice people moved into the house next door and began distributing drugs on a rather large basis. After a year or so of this, and having had their door smashed down twice by masked raiders, they decided to move on. Brilliant :y
A couple of months later some new people moved in opposite and almost straight away started where the others left off. Within two weeks they'd had their windows stoved in but they carried on nontheless.
Well last week the police men came with 'The Enforcer' and smashed their way in. No idea what they found but suffice to say 24 hrs later they were both back living there and continuing to sell their gear.
Now for the fun bit, when I got home tonight my wife took me upstairs to talk to me. It turns out an aquaintance of my 16 year old daughter who knows the scum over the road has been told to tell me to watch my back as they're going to 'get' me. They only bloody blame me for ringing the police which I swear I never did!!!
The last thing I want is some druggy scum with a grudge after me, god knows what they'll do!!!!
My wife went round to lay it to them straight and the scummy woman denied all knowledge of the grudge (which she would I suppose). Just to add, she did this before I got home from work.
I've just spent the night looking for somewhere new to live as I cant risk my children getting caught up in this.
I'll be honest, im absolutely pooing myself at the moment (and I really dont care if anyone thinks im a big poof :-/). Why cant these people just be humanely destroyed, they're no use to anyone for anything and they bring untold misery wherever they go.
Sorry, just needed to tell someone.
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Not good... I would suggest you give the Police a call and ask them to increase patrols :-/
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These type of people like to keep themselves as unknown to the Police as possible. I'm sure they are pretty aware that 'if' they decided to give you a slap, the first thing you would do is report it to the Police.
I dont want to upset you, but is it not possible that your Daughter's associate has fabricated a story so to get your Daughter 'on-side'? A kind of "Do this and your Dad will be ok"?????
I'd be inclined to visit the local police station and make your fears known. The neighbours wouldn't have to know anything about it.
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I hope it works out for you. Obviously your priority is to protect your family. Maybe you could could speak with the neighbours to get a guage of their mindset and stress again to them you have no interest in what they get up to and that you are not a grass and that you're just interested in putting you're feet up at the end of the day. You could then gauge the response.
If you move they might think you actually were a grass. Sounds like someone is stirring to deflect the blame away from themselves. Do you have an idea who grassed on them?
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I suppose the safety of your family must be of primary importance Squealy but I would have been inclined to establish whether or not your daughter’s friend was in possession of factual information - certainly before approaching the alleged offenders (which in many cases isn't a good idea).
As it stands you may have to inform the police of the alleged threat to substantiate your request for a removal to a different address - if it's a local authority house.
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I would move regardless, Squealey TBH. Problem is where to? the rubbish seems to be everywhere these days, & even 'affluent' neighbourhoods aren't exempt because these ******** have money to burn! You & the family deserve better than this mate! I hope it all pans out well for you :(
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Damn typical of the pond life that seems to be everywhere these days, it seems.
Initially, I'd be inclined to 'have a word' in this geezers ear (if you know what I mean).
However, the safety and well-being of your family is of paramount importance, so I'd certainly register a complaint at your local police station.
Do things correctly, and let's hope these losers move on a bit sharpish - preferably with a little assistance, if you know what I mean.
Hope things work out okay mate! :y
Oh, and no-one thinks you're a big poof - you're just a decent chap with his families' very best interests at heart.
Absolutely so mate, and 'good on yer' for sharing this episode with us.
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Can't offer you any advice I am sorry to say but I sincerely hope you find a way forward.
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Damn typical of the pond life that seems to be everywhere these days, it seems.
Initially, I'd be inclined to 'have a word' in this geezers ear (if you know what I mean).
However, the safety and well-being of your family is of paramount importance, so I'd certainly register a complaint at your local police station.Do things correctly, and let's hope these losers move on a bit sharpish - preferably with a little assistance, if you know what I mean.
Hope things work out okay mate! :y
Oh, and no-one thinks you're a big poof - you're just a decent chap with his families' very best interests at heart.
Absolutely so mate, and 'good on yer' for sharing this episode with us.
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In my experience you are unlikely to be able to have a reasoned discussion with the neighbour, but got to be worth a try...
As others have said you need to contact the Police, also if they live in a LA House you must speak with them, this will all be necessary to move them or to get a move yourself.
If you seriously feel threatened then get on to your local housing homeless section and demand a place in a hostel / refuge as you need to flee your present home, this will better be supported if the police can confirm a potential threat, particularly if you have younger children.....
Good luck, hope you can make things work out for you..... :y
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Many years ago (80's) when I got to wed the wife we moved into our first home, rented to us by my employer (govt) all was fine for first six-eight months then down the road on a nice green area some caravans turned up and things started going missing. A few of the local homemakers went and asked if the nice people would move on. The answer was no. The very next night one of the van had a fire. Thank god not one person was hurt, but the following morning NO CARAVAN's. Life was bliss again. Just a story you understand. But this is not the answer.
I hope everything works out for you in some way :y
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I know that my Local Authority housing department take a VERY dim view of any behaviour which could be deemed anti-social. If you have PCSO contact then they should be able to get in touch with housing (thus not you direct ;)), and they then send someone round to tell them to desist...or lose their housing. Quite effective, so I am led to believe. :y
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I'd be inclined to avoid official approaches, just try to grab the guy quietly and say you don't give a fk what he does in private but you're not happy that someone is calling you a grass.
I have a drug user (not dealer) who lives opposite me and we quickly established that I don't care what he did/does so long as it doesn't affect me, we exchange greetings but no more and the close is very quiet.
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Many years ago (80's) when I got to wed the wife we moved into our first home, rented to us by my employer (govt) all was fine for first six-eight months then down the road on a nice green area some caravans turned up and things started going missing. A few of the local homemakers went and asked if the nice people would move on. The answer was no. The very next night one of the van had a fire. Thank god not one person was hurt, but the following morning NO CARAVAN's. Life was bliss again. Just a story you understand. But this is not the answer.
Actually as answers go that is very effective, my wife used to walk to school with the ex-wife of the local Hells Angels chapter president. One friday night many years ago a neighbour found out we had paedos living in the block of flats next door, by 11am saturday morning they had 'opted' to leave courtesy of a group of hairy heebies.
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These type of people like to keep themselves as unknown to the Police as possible. I'm sure they are pretty aware that 'if' they decided to give you a slap, the first thing you would do is report it to the Police.
I dont want to upset you, but is it not possible that your Daughter's associate has fabricated a story so to get your Daughter 'on-side'? A kind of "Do this and your Dad will be ok"?????
I'd be inclined to visit the local police station and make your fears known. The neighbours wouldn't have to know anything about it.
Assuming the rest of the neigbourhood are not druggie scum type - I agree with Broomies Mate on the highlighted point. I would be inclined to approach the drug dealer first and explain this situation and point the finger at the daughter's friend for shit-stirring and make it known that as long as nothing happens status quo reigns
Many years ago (80's) when I got to wed the wife we moved into our first home, rented to us by my employer (govt) all was fine for first six-eight months then down the road on a nice green area some caravans turned up and things started going missing. A few of the local homemakers went and asked if the nice people would move on. The answer was no. The very next night one of the van had a fire. Thank god not one person was hurt, but the following morning NO CARAVAN's. Life was bliss again. Just a story you understand. But this is not the answer.
Actually as answers go that is very effective, my wife used to walk to school with the ex-wife of the local Hells Angels chapter president. One friday night many years ago a neighbour found out we had paedos living in the block of flats next door, by 11am saturday morning they had 'opted' to leave courtesy of a group of hairy heebies.
Or ideally, if you have these sort of friends, this is the plan i would pursue
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These type of people like to keep themselves as unknown to the Police as possible. I'm sure they are pretty aware that 'if' they decided to give you a slap, the first thing you would do is report it to the Police.
I dont want to upset you, but is it not possible that your Daughter's associate has fabricated a story so to get your Daughter 'on-side'? A kind of "Do this and your Dad will be ok"?????
I'd be inclined to visit the local police station and make your fears known. The neighbours wouldn't have to know anything about it.
Assuming the rest of the neigbourhood are not druggie scum type - I agree with Broomies Mate on the highlighted point. I would be inclined to approach the drug dealer first and explain this situation and point the finger at the daughter's friend for shit-stirring and make it known that as long as nothing happens status quo reigns
Many years ago (80's) when I got to wed the wife we moved into our first home, rented to us by my employer (govt) all was fine for first six-eight months then down the road on a nice green area some caravans turned up and things started going missing. A few of the local homemakers went and asked if the nice people would move on. The answer was no. The very next night one of the van had a fire. Thank god not one person was hurt, but the following morning NO CARAVAN's. Life was bliss again. Just a story you understand. But this is not the answer.
Actually as answers go that is very effective, my wife used to walk to school with the ex-wife of the local Hells Angels chapter president. One friday night many years ago a neighbour found out we had paedos living in the block of flats next door, by 11am saturday morning they had 'opted' to leave courtesy of a group of hairy heebies.
Or ideally, if you have these sort of friends, this is the plan i would pursue
For the record this is not the way to go..... :-X
However.................
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Well its 5 am and I have been awake for well over two hours, got a full days driving ahead of me later, that should be fun.
Its not a Housing Assosciation house, its a private rental in a not too bad part of Boston. The estate is only 5 years old.
The problem I have is I know almost nobody up here, especially anyone who may be able to apply some pressure. I honestly dont care if they think im a grass once I move as I doubt we will run into each other (We rarely have the cash to go out tbh)
I have been informed by three seperte people that the lad who lives next door with his one year old and girlfriend also partakes in a bit of dealing which makes me think hes trying to get rid of the competition and then blaming me. Put it this way, when I was redundent he never did a days work but was constantly changing his car, i mean at least once a month. He now has a Civic Type R, a heap of a Peugeot 306 and a quad bike, yet he still doesnt work?
I suppose the threat is aimed at me so at least my family should be relatively safe.
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Or ideally, if you have these sort of friends, this is the plan i would pursue
We had someone with these types of connections on here but we drove him away, seems you cant have your cake and eat it......
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Hope you get this sorted mate. I can only say what i would do and that would be to go over and ask what the problem is and if they have the balls to say whats going on in the small tin can that they call brain explain that you here now lets get this sorted one way of the other if not mate and they say nothings going on i would think if they sell they also use so play on that. ;) You know late night scream mask on standing out side the living room window that sort of thing mind tricks mate :y :y or just go for option 2 first without asking whats going. Then again knowing my temper when i loose it and the red mist comes down i would get him before he got me and make sure he breaked off. ;) ;) ;)
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You should hold a meet at you house and get everyone to turn up in force and make a presance felt no one has to do anything but it will make him think twice if loads of fellas turn up and just hang round. ;D ;D ;D
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Not sure what to say or do with this being honest.
I hope that Squealey stays safe but also not sure this sort of taking things into your own hands stuff looks good for the forum either...
Sorry Guys & Gals
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Whats the notice period on your rent? As you don't own the house and its likey to be a month is to give notice, i'd move away! No point in living next to that.
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Not sure what to say or do with this being honest.
I hope that Squealey stays safe but also not sure this sort of taking things into your own hands stuff looks good for the forum either...
Sorry Guys & Gals
I would tend to agree with you DLK. :y
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Its not a Housing Assosciation house, its a private rental in a not too bad part of Boston. The estate is only 5 years old.
The problem I have is I know almost nobody up here, especially anyone who may be able to apply some pressure.
Sorry my previous post wasn't a suggestion to get heavies in.
Looking at your position I see a no-brainer, you know no-one so have no friends to lose. You are in private rental so only limited by your contract, no secure tenancy to lose. And your statement that it's in a not too bad area doesn't hold water as you have had two dealers opposite and one next door! Just get out.
When you choose your next area don't go by estate age, it doesn't work. In Slough I can think of 5 new estates that have gone up over the last years and only 2 of them are worth living on. What happened here is they created mixed HA/private estates, the local council promptly dumped all their trash tenants on the HA and the buy to letters bought up big chunks of the private which they promptly let at huge profit to DSS claimants who were miles down the waiting list. Suddenly the estate turns to crap, then what happens is the half decent tenants start to do exchanges, who with?, the crap from other parts of town. They are invariably in a half decent area but after many years of neglect their HA house looks like sh!t, they then jump at the chance of a newly built house and the outgoing tenant jumps at a decent area.