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Title: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 08:56:27
Has anyone ever had a dish installed on top of a block of flats? Turns out the building my flat is in does not have a communal dish. Well flats were built in 1935!

So looking to get a dish installed on the roof, flat hope to get is on floor 5 of 6. So dish needs to be installed, and wires dropped down one floor.

Had quote of £120+vat so far  :-/

Currently making enquires about access to the roof, should not be an issue as there are a couple of mobile phone masts on roof currently.

I'll be providing the dish & LNB, but just wondering what to budget for?

Sadly I can't get it free, as non-standard installs are subcontracted out for H&S mumbo jumbo rules  :(
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 09:05:14
Why not talk to the rest of the residents and see if they're interested in a communal dish? IIRCC Sky say they'll install them for free on the website :y

Speaking of Sky dishes... We may need to talk as I need a new one ::)

Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 09:11:49
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Why not talk to the rest of the residents and see if they're interested in a communal dish? IIRCC Sky say they'll install them for free on the website :y

Speaking of Sky dishes... We may need to talk as I need a new one ::)


Ahh that they do, but its 'standard' install thats free. Anything higher than second floor and they get scared  :(

Anything about this, its contracted out, costs not covered under my staff account  :( - Even if it costs me £150-£200, i'll make it back very quickly as the package i get is worth about £90 a month  :o

Its possible they might want a communal dish, but thats going to take time. Turns out, that I will be a share holder in the management company that owns the freehold with this purchase of the flat, so i should (and seller) have slightly more poke being allowed access to the roof.
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 09:13:11
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Why not talk to the rest of the residents and see if they're interested in a communal dish? IIRCC Sky say they'll install them for free on the website :y

Speaking of Sky dishes... We may need to talk as I need a new one ::)


May sound bit of a cop out, but i don't have much power in that dept  :(

Did i read while back you took out a new subscription? We are due another staff promotion soon for half price membership that i can get you on. But that will need to be a in a 'new' customers name
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Nickbat on 08 July 2010, 09:27:55
Get an Octo LNB dish. I bought this one a couple of weeks ago (though I have yet to put it up). Good seller. Free P&P and arrived in less than 24 hours. Also comes with cables.

You can also buy a pole adaptor for about £3 if you don't have a wall to take the bracket. :y

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-SATELLITE-DISH-OCTO-LNB-4-X-10M-TWIN-CABLES-/270476340895?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item3ef9a56e9f
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 09:28:21
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Why not talk to the rest of the residents and see if they're interested in a communal dish? IIRCC Sky say they'll install them for free on the website :y

Speaking of Sky dishes... We may need to talk as I need a new one ::)


May sound bit of a cop out, but i don't have much power in that dept  :(

Did i read while back you took out a new subscription? We are due another staff promotion soon for half price membership that i can get you on. But that will need to be a in a 'new' customers name

Yep took a new HD + Multiroom as she wanted it :o :o

Shame about the dishes... Need a Zone 2 Dish and Octo LNB... Looks like I'll have to spend the £70 odd and buy them ::)
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Jimbob on 08 July 2010, 09:30:11
These zone2 dishes...they are just bigger, and still work in zone 1 dont they?

tempted to replace ours with one to try and get a more reliable signal when the weather is a tad inclement.
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 09:34:16
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These zone2 dishes...they are just bigger, and still work in zone 1 dont they?

tempted to replace ours with one to try and get a more reliable signal when the weather is a tad inclement.

Yep. The engineer who came to me (not a Sky one I might add) said it will aid in improving signal due to the trees where I am :y

Said that normally if you';ve got 40% (for example) then it will roughly double :y
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 09:36:59
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These zone2 dishes...they are just bigger, and still work in zone 1 dont they?

tempted to replace ours with one to try and get a more reliable signal when the weather is a tad inclement.

Yep. The engineer who came to me (not a Sky one I might add) said it will aid in improving signal due to the trees where I am :y

Said that normally if you';ve got 40% (for example) then it will roughly double :y

They are subcontracting more and more  :(  :-/
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 09:38:53
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These zone2 dishes...they are just bigger, and still work in zone 1 dont they?

tempted to replace ours with one to try and get a more reliable signal when the weather is a tad inclement.

Yep. The engineer who came to me (not a Sky one I might add) said it will aid in improving signal due to the trees where I am :y

Said that normally if you';ve got 40% (for example) then it will roughly double :y

They are subcontracting more and more  :(  :-/

Had it been a Sky engineer I'd probably have talked him into it for a drink ::) ::)

As it was, the guy who came out not only didn't have a zone 2 dish but would have had to account for it all anyway :'(
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 11:18:06
Balls, management company refuses access to the roof :(
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 11:19:52
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Balls, management company refuses access to the roof :(

Can you have it wall mounted instead? I know it's probably still High Access but at least you can get it done ;)
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 11:42:45
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Balls, management company refuses access to the roof :(

Can you have it wall mounted instead? I know it's probably still High Access but at least you can get it done ;)

Someone had a pikey install with a dish pointing out window, but because building is quite old, they won't allow dishes mounted externally at-all it seems  :(
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 11:49:09
Looks like i am gunna have to go with the enemy, Virgin!  ;D

Still get HD for free  :D - Basic package looks ok at £23  :)
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 July 2010, 11:51:49
Our block of flats Tunnie has a communial dish, which means we already have Sky connections to tie into, but a local "approved" outfit must do the work to connect, no one else! ::) ::)  In the past they quoted me £35 for that connection.

As already said, I would enquire as to whether or not other tenants / owners would share in the costs of a communial dish that the blocks managing agents will accept can be installed. ;) ;)

Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 12:01:06
Indeed Lizzie, as part of the sale, i will be a share holder in the management company that owns the free hold so i should be able to get things moving.

That said, i still would have to pay BT line rental it seems if i wanted Sky, which is around £15 a month. With Virgin, no BT line is needed, and their basic package (including HD) is just £23 with 10mb internet, so its not exactly end of the world.
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Xplicit 2.0 on 08 July 2010, 12:53:02
now, i know sky has a hell of a lot more channels and what not... but why dont you get something like Freeview HD as you can get HD channels through the normal aerial and without the need of a dish
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 13:39:10
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now, i know sky has a hell of a lot more channels and what not... but why dont you get something like Freeview HD as you can get HD channels thought the normal airel and without the need of a dish

I need internet, and for the bundled cost from Virgin, its cheaper to get whole lot from them  :y
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Radar on 08 July 2010, 14:02:58
Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.

Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 14:06:58
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 July 2010, 14:11:34
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Looks like i am gunna have to go with the enemy, Virgin!  ;D

Still get HD for free  :D - Basic package looks ok at £23  :)

Not like you not checking all the options for a dish (Location) especially as that is the job you have moved down there for is the first place.
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 14:12:57
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Looks like i am gunna have to go with the enemy, Virgin!  ;D

Still get HD for free  :D - Basic package looks ok at £23  :)

Not like you not checking all the options for a dish (Location) especially as that is the job you have moved down there for is the first place.

It was one of the first questions i asked when i viewed the flat... even have letters from her solicitors saying Sky serve the building. But when i dug further, turns out not the case.

Too far along line now....
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 July 2010, 14:14:51
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 14:15:47
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)

Oh there is a door, but its locked. I'm not a man of muscle as those who know me will comment.  ;D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 14:20:14
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)

Oh there is a door, but its locked. I'm not a man of muscle as those who know me will comment.  ;D

Even if is wasn't locked you'd bounce off it on a moderately windy day ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 14:21:43
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)

Oh there is a door, but its locked. I'm not a man of muscle as those who know me will comment.  ;D

Even if is wasn't locked you'd bounce off it on a moderately windy day ;D ;D ;D


I'll have you know i've put on weight lately  :D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Lazydocker on 08 July 2010, 14:22:35
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)

Oh there is a door, but its locked. I'm not a man of muscle as those who know me will comment.  ;D

Even if is wasn't locked you'd bounce off it on a moderately windy day ;D ;D ;D


I'll have you know i've put on weight lately  :D

Didn't you have a dump this morning? :D :D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 14:25:11
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)

Oh there is a door, but its locked. I'm not a man of muscle as those who know me will comment.  ;D

Even if is wasn't locked you'd bounce off it on a moderately windy day ;D ;D ;D


I'll have you know i've put on weight lately  :D

Didn't you have a dump this morning? :D :D

Ah, that explains it  ;D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: CaptainZok on 08 July 2010, 15:04:51
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

A bloody big ladder might be usefull then.   ::)

Oh there is a door, but its locked. I'm not a man of muscle as those who know me will comment.  ;D

Even if is wasn't locked you'd bounce off it on a moderately windy day ;D ;D ;D


I'll have you know i've put on weight lately  :D

Or did it rain this morning?
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 15:07:09
It did, but i was nice and dry in the car  :)
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: Radar on 08 July 2010, 15:09:42
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Our block of flats had a communal sky dish installed by a company called  Spectrum Assosciates (London) - i think. They made the feed into everyone's flat for free but if you wanted it connected they charged £60.00.

If you need there number i can dig it out for you.


Cheers for that  :y

I believe the issue is not actually installing the dish or how lines are run, its actually getting physical access to the roof.

Didn't you used to have Inspector Gadget arms? They could do the job no problem!
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 08 July 2010, 15:11:12
as i will be new to building, don't think i could go breaking rules just yet!  :D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: TheBoy on 09 July 2010, 11:02:47
Sky installers won't mount anything above step ladder height because they are a bunch of lazy, useless sods  >:(.  Jack all to do with H&S.

Tunnie - why bother with sky? Freeview takes less than a minute to go through to decide there is nothing but trash on. Sky takes about 15m to decide there is nothing but trash on.


LOL, its just dawned on me - my previous comments about Sky employees/contractors being lazy....  ....if the cap fits ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: High Level Satellite Install
Post by: tunnie on 09 July 2010, 11:51:29
Sorry what? i was watching TV...  ::)  ;D

I'll take out Virgin for the internet as they are good price anyway for that, tbh if i did not get the package for free i would not buy it.

I download most TV shows as we are so far behind in UK, Chuck for example on Virgin 1, i've already watched entire Season 3, even though its only just begun to air here.