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Title: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 August 2010, 16:16:09
or put another way, two Stanier 2-8-0 8F steam railway engines are to return from Turkey to Britain, hopefully in October, for use on an uknown preserved railway (or two!).  :) :) :)

Originally part of a batch of 20 8F's, allocated numbers between 45151 and 45170, intended for War Department use during WW2, they were finally exported to Turkey in 1941-42.  Some of these engines were last used in 1980 before being discarded. 

Over 250 of these 8F engines, many built by North British, were sent overseas, where many stayed throughout their lives.  Among a number already repatriated is fully overhauled 45160, currently LMS numbered 8274, on the Gloucestershire & Warwickshire Railway (but masquerading under a different number in this picture - don't ask, it is what happens often in railway preservation!! ::) ::)) :

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/Stanier8274_Prescott_2010.jpg)

So Cem, another two getting away, but I understand Turkey is keeping two (45162 & 45168) preserved, with a further two going to remain for the immediate future :D :D :D ;) ;)



Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: The Red Baron on 07 August 2010, 16:26:10
good news lizzie.
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 August 2010, 18:24:16
 :-?

how you get this info  :-?

you surprised me Lizzie..I didnt hear anything :-/

anyway its good news still 4 of them alive and in good condition.. :y
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 August 2010, 19:04:23
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:-?

how you get this info  :-?

you surprised me Lizzie..I didnt hear anything
:-/

anyway its good news still 4 of them alive and in good condition.. :y

Within the steam preservation movement here Cem :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 August 2010, 19:15:06
This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: hoofing it on 07 August 2010, 21:16:36
is that Turkeys version of Barrie Lizzie ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 August 2010, 21:20:01
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is that Turkeys version of Barrie Lizzie ;D ;D ;D


The similiarities are certainly there!  :D :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 August 2010, 21:58:28
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This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 07 August 2010, 22:14:08
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This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)

 :o :o :o


What's up Cem? :-/ :-/  Is that a revelation? :D :D :D
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 07 August 2010, 22:29:06
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This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)

 :o :o :o


What's up Cem? :-/ :-/  Is that a revelation? :D :D :D

how you get those old piccies is a big question for me unless you live here :o ;D :y
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 August 2010, 12:24:02
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This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)

 :o :o :o


What's up Cem? :-/ :-/  Is that a revelation? :D :D :D

how you get those old piccies is a big question for me unless you live here :o ;D :y


Ah, right Cem :D ;)  You had me worried for a bit thinking I had upset you - even thinking that the Turkish place name I quoted was a swear word!! ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D ;)

Anyway, cannot claim anything but I obtained that picture of the "scrap yard" off the internet! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Hope all is well in sunny Turkey this morning Cem 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y



Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Seth on 08 August 2010, 21:03:14
These '8Fs' Lizzie ......
Are these otherwise known as 'Black Fives'?
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 August 2010, 21:24:38
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This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)

 :o :o :o


What's up Cem? :-/ :-/  Is that a revelation? :D :D :D

how you get those old piccies is a big question for me unless you live here :o ;D :y


Ah, right Cem :D ;)  You had me worried for a bit thinking I had upset you - even thinking that the Turkish place name I quoted was a swear word!! ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D ;)

Anyway, cannot claim anything but I obtained that picture of the "scrap yard" off the internet! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Hope all is well in sunny Turkey this morning Cem 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y




thanks Lizzie :y

unfortunately news are bad, I'm not well, I got sick.. :(
 day time 42-43..night 35-36 .. propellers, frequent showers does the job..coughing badly..using antibiotics now.. :-/
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: dad1uk on 08 August 2010, 21:54:35
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is that Turkeys version of Barrie Lizzie ;D ;D ;D


The similiarities are certainly there!  :D :D :D :D ;)

No chance, there is no grotty funfair or closed down holiday camp! ::) ::)
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: PhilRich on 08 August 2010, 21:56:21
Sorry to hear you are not well cem :(
Those temperatures must be taking it out of you, so plenty of fluids (preferably alcoholic ;)) & lots of sleep if you can. Get well soon  :y
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 August 2010, 22:36:51
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This Cem apparently was the Çatalagzi railway dump in 1989, one of a number I suspect:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/TurkishScrapeYard.jpg)

 ;) ;)

 :o :o :o


What's up Cem? :-/ :-/  Is that a revelation? :D :D :D

how you get those old piccies is a big question for me unless you live here :o ;D :y


Ah, right Cem :D ;)  You had me worried for a bit thinking I had upset you - even thinking that the Turkish place name I quoted was a swear word!! ::) ::) :o :o ;D ;D ;)

Anyway, cannot claim anything but I obtained that picture of the "scrap yard" off the internet! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

Hope all is well in sunny Turkey this morning Cem 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y




thanks Lizzie :y

unfortunately news are bad, I'm not well, I got sick.. :(
 day time 42-43..night 35-36 .. propellers, frequent showers does the job..coughing badly..using antibiotics now.. :-/


Sorry Cem, only just seen your post!  I hope you feel better soon, but in that heat it can be very difficult indeed to feel good even when well!! :'( :'( :'(

 ;) ;)

Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 August 2010, 22:55:46
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These '8Fs' Lizzie ......
Are these otherwise known as 'Black Fives'?

 No, the "Black Fives" were W.Stanier's famous general workhorse 4-6-0 5MT's (Mixed Traffic) engines, 842 of them built from 1934 for the LMS, to BR days in 1949. Always rated as one of the most successful engines ever built.

The Stanier 8F's 2-8-0 were a frieght engine primarily built for the LMS from 1935 through to the WW2 years, when some batches were also built for the LNER, even running on the SR when new.  As previously mentioned many ended up in War Department service, and operating abroad during the war and thereafter.  In total no less than 852 were built, of which 133 were for the WD.

 :y :y 
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 08 August 2010, 22:59:05
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is that Turkeys version of Barrie Lizzie ;D ;D ;D


The similiarities are certainly there!  :D :D :D :D ;)

No chance, there is no grotty funfair or closed down holiday camp! ::) ::)

........no, and no lovely old cafe up the road that used to cook lovely all day full English breakfasts!! :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 August 2010, 12:49:12
Here is Black 5 45379 in an advanced stage of restoration on the Mid-Hants Railway http://www.watercressline.co.uk/The-Works/Locomotives

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/MHRBlackFive.jpg)

........and here is another one.........45407 which undertakes mainline work:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/BlackFive45407.jpg)

 :-* :-* 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 August 2010, 14:34:56
impressive.. :y
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: robbo2345 on 09 August 2010, 21:29:46
Hi Lizzy were these 8f also known as princess class or are they very alike ???  :-/ :-/ :y
Title: Re: Cem to lose two more steam railway engines.....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 August 2010, 21:53:42
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Hi Lizzy were these 8f also known as princess class or are they very alike ???  :-/ :-/ :y


No Robbo, the Princess Royal Class was designed by Stanier  but was a 4-6-2  (Pacific) passenger express engine. 

This is 46203 Princess Margaret Rose,

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/PrincessClassLocomotive.jpg)

which along with 46201 Princess Elizabeth:
(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/Trains%20Planes%20Buses%20%20Cars/LMS6201_.jpg)

are the two preserved out of a class of 12


 ;) ;)