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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sixstring on 12 August 2010, 10:58:04
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Seriously thinking now about my Miggy's replacement in January.
I do a lot of long distance mileage, and my 3.0 estate is fantastic- but would I benefit really from going Diesel??
There is a 2.2 DTi, and a 2.5 BMW engine, and I know NOTHING about either, the good/bad bits etc which is better? NEED: wight carrying and distance capability, so HAS to be estate, but currently get 30mpg+ from my V6, and love the comforts of the elite. MUST be automatic, and some people say auto is a mistake in Diesel, some say no probs, which is right? got to be AR35 if auto, cos of strength and longevity, round town mileage at the moment is 23-26 roughly, and can do 33 on a run. How do the Diesels match up?
As I asked Kevin Wood, should I stick to 3.0 V6??
Decisions, decisions.
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Hi Mike, hope you're well.
2.2 DTi never came in automatic form, and is only a 4 pot, so won't be a great choice for you.
3.0 is, in my opinion, the best engine. If your car is a good'un, which it certainly appears to be (Especially after our day's cambelt / oil cooler work, and your suspension work), then I'd be inclined to keep it :y
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2.2dti is manual, and you really need manual box in 2.5td to get best from it....
So v6 it is then ;)
2.5/6 may be worth a look as well
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I've never driven a tractor Omega so can't really comment but I'm not convinced, based on the fuel consumption figures I've seen banded around here, that going for one would save me enough money to make up for the loss of performance and refinement.
An LPG V6 is certainly the best option for me, but to each their own.
Kevin
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mmm. Interesting....
Reckon I should buy the best 3.2 estate elite with the lowest miles I can, and LPG it.
James, when you are tired of yours................!!
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how much is the road tax on a post 2001 3.2,is there much of a jump?
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how much is the road tax on a post 2001 3.2,is there much of a jump?
my renewal landed this morning - £245, so £20 iirc?
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My PreF 2.5TD Manual Estate was my main works vehicle for a long while, the BM lumps are good work horses, a bit under powerd for the heavy mig but does it job well.
I use to do a lot of miles fully loaded with the back seats down, full of heavy coax cable drums, tools, steel brackets etc added with 2 sets of ladders, steps and a roof box full of crap on the roof with no real complaints from the Mig at all, would be quiet happy being cruised at 77+ish, would still return over 40mpg on a run and 34 all day long around town fully loaded.
Think if I had to that all over again I would chose a Diesel over a Petrol or LPG.
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mmm. Interesting....
Reckon I should buy the best 3.2 estate elite with the lowest miles I can, and LPG it.
James, when you are tired of yours................!!
Who do I know with an '03' 3.2 Elite estate? ::) ::)
Start talking £45.87 and we could have a deal.
The 3.2 Elite estate's are few and far between,
however...more recently a few have popped up.
On ebay there's an '03' with 120k miles in silver, starting at £2000 with a reserve.
I have made some more serious enquiries with Chinese and Japanease car sales and export companies. They have the 2.5 DTI there in RHD, both saloon and estate, one is billed as an 2005 one. Clearly we all know it isn't really, but I gave the DOR to the DVLA and they said it would be registered here as an '05' plate.
The spec is a bit different, I think they use the NCDR 2011, and they also have electrically folding door mirrors and different names for the trim levels.
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mmm. Interesting....
Reckon I should buy the best 3.2 estate elite with the lowest miles I can, and LPG it.
James, when you are tired of yours................!!
Who do I know with an '03' 3.2 Elite estate? ::) ::)
Start talking £45.87 and we could have a deal.
The 3.2 Elite estate's are few and far between,
however...more recently a few have popped up.
On ebay there's an '03' with 120k miles in silver, starting at £2000 with a reserve.
I have made some more serious enquiries with Chinese and Japanease car sales and export companies. They have the 2.5 DTI there in RHD, both saloon and estate, one is billed as an 2005 one. Clearly we all know it isn't really, but I gave the DOR to the DVLA and they said it would be registered here as an '05' plate.
The spec is a bit different, I think they use the NCDR 2011, and they also have electrically folding door mirrors and different names for the trim levels.
I think I can afford more than £50 for one, Josh.........LOL!
CHINESE miggies????
Now THAT would be interesting, as long as there is a direct comparison to the elite model..........
Have to change mine in JAN 2011 as my car allowance ends then.
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Go for the 2.5 Diesel much easier to work on than petrol.
i'm now going to wait for a lecture from those petrol heads ;D ;D :y
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Go for the 2.5 Diesel much easier to work on than petrol.
i'm now going to wait for a lecture from those petrol heads ;D ;D :y
but us petrol swiggers get there quicker leaving more time for fixing :y
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Go for the 2.5 Diesel much easier to work on than petrol.
i'm now going to wait for a lecture from those petrol heads ;D ;D :y
but us petrol swiggers get there quicker leaving more time for fixing :y
pmsl ;D ;D :y
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Some years ago I had an almost new CDX TD Auto Saloon after having had an Elite 3.0 Auto Estate.
Without changing anything in my driving style the MPG went from an average 25 with the V6 to an average 36 in the TD.
I took the TD from 23k to 39k and the V6 I'd had from new to 45k when I got rid of it.
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I can't think of a polite way to say "if economy is a priority maybe don't run a great big Mig in any form". You can have a lovely shiney mint Elite but start it up & it sounds & smells like a bus. You've got a good V6, do as most of us do. Wear the cost & enjoy.
If you do alot of miles is it an option to buy a cheapie diesel van or other car to use as a workhorse? :)
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I have had my 2000 2.5TD Auto Estate 7 years now, 160000 miles, no problems with engine or gearbox.
The engine was chipped to 160 bhp by the previous owner so it's not short of power but only gives 30-35 mpg.
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Markseth's (my previous) TD Estate, which is chipped, constantly (and still does so) return 33mpg around here Mike - and you've seen the terrain!
He's delighted with this car ......
:D
Our latest (unchipped) 'clone' is slightly better than this when running locally - and it's a real beauty!
Motorway cruising affords 40+ mpg.
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A recent run up to your neck of the woods returned 36mpg - this was a mixture of local terrain, a 100mph dash and motorway cruising from Ross to home.
And (very importantly) Mrs Sethsmate positively loves it!
:y
As you're looking for an economical mile-muncher, I'd go for a nice manual-boxed 2.5TD, though decent examples are nowadays like hens teeth!
Experiences with auto-boxed 2.5TDs tell me to avoid 'em .......
:(
This was a lot of car for the money, and although I'd found a very good home for it, Mick's now flogged it.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1279738881
A pity that ...... :'(
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I can't think of a polite way to say "if economy is a priority maybe don't run a great big Mig in any form". You can have a lovely shiney mint Elite but start it up & it sounds & smells like a bus. You've got a good V6, do as most of us do. Wear the cost & enjoy.
If you do alot of miles is it an option to buy a cheapie diesel van or other car to use as a workhorse? :)
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We do exactly that. The Laguna 2 ltr estate is used as a local runabout, my van is used for my business and the Omega comes out for holidays, longer journeys....or local if we want to impress (show off)...;D ;D ;D
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Markseth's (my previous) TD Estate, which is chipped, constantly (and still does so) return 33mpg around here Mike - and you've seen the terrain!
He's delighted with this car ......
:D
Our latest (unchipped) 'clone' is slightly better than this when running locally - and it's a real beauty!
Motorway cruising affords 40+ mpg.
:y
A recent run up to your neck of the woods returned 36mpg - this was a mixture of local terrain, a 100mph dash and motorway cruising from Ross to home.
And (very importantly) Mrs Sethsmate positively loves it!
:y
As you're looking for an economical mile-muncher, I'd go for a nice manual-boxed 2.5TD, though decent examples are nowadays like hens teeth!
Experiences with auto-boxed 2.5TDs tell me to avoid 'em .......
:(
This was a lot of car for the money, and although I'd found a very good home for it, Mick's now flogged it.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1279738881
A pity that ...... :'(
I was just reading this thread about 10 mins ago, when I got to the bit "Mick's now flogged it" and the phone rang.
So who was it?......only the guy who's buying it off me, spooky or what!
Anyway he's collecting Friday, with the balance of the cash.
Finally I'm saying goodbye to the TD estate :'(
I shall miss it, but needs must and all that.
Mick ;)
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I bought my tractor estate 18 month ago for £500 i use it for work everyday it is always full and i mean full of tools /ladders etc it has just gone thru its second mot with one track rod end and no adviseries it now runs as sweet as you like after a little fettlingis now on 156k and i would have know hesitation in going anywhere in the country in it , i am that impressed i was seriously considering buying mickap estate as a second car but it got sold before i could talk the missus round ;D highly reccommended