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Title: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 21:06:19
Does anyone know how to calculate the total pressure exerted on the base of a water tank half full ? :-[

Water storage tank is 2mx1.5mx2m and contains water to a depth of 1.6m  :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: waspy on 06 September 2010, 21:11:53
Why just the base & not the sides too?
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 September 2010, 21:15:12
Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 21:27:21
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is begining to bow... :o :o
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 September 2010, 21:29:23
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is begining to bow... :o :o

Whats the floor loading like!

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 06 September 2010, 21:33:37
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is begining to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: mh_trigger on 06 September 2010, 21:36:00
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

 :-?
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 21:39:30
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o

Whats the floor loading like!

 ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D  It's the loft that worries me.... ::) ::) ::)
1930's house so decent material used... :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Tony H on 06 September 2010, 21:44:16
Be very carfull with a tank that size a freind of mine had a very large tropical tank by his lounge window(single glazed)He opened the curtains after a very cold night, the next thing he ended up with a few hundred gallons of water and a shoal of fish all over his lounge carpet :o. He can only presume that the cold air hitting the warm glass caused it to fracture and gave him one hell of a clear up job.
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 September 2010, 21:44:35
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o

Whats the floor loading like!

 ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D  It's the loft that worries me.... ::) ::) ::)
1930's house so decent material used... :)

I would't kid yourself to much on that..... ;D

They didn't use floor joists in the loft even then.....and many of the joists used back then would not meet the requirments of C16 or C24 timber for todays standards....and hence why you see many split beams in old roofs giving roof sag  :y

Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 21:46:36
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 September 2010, 21:48:38
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 21:53:12
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o

Whats the floor loading like!

 ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D  It's the loft that worries me.... ::) ::) ::)
1930's house so decent material used... :)

I would't kid yourself to much on that..... ;D

They didn't use floor joists in the loft even then.....and many of the joists used back then would not meet the requirments of C16 or C24 timber for todays standards....and hence why you see many split beams in old roofs giving roof sag  :y


Not sure what that means but iirc, they are fully covered, I think they are 8 inches deep and 3 or 4 wide, don't quote me on the width though.

I seem to remember that they were OK for a loft conversion, (10 years ago)which we did not do.. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 06 September 2010, 21:53:30
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a [size=14]couple of Tonnes[/size][/highlight], no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad


 :o :-X
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 21:56:35
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a [size=14]couple of Tonnes[/size][/highlight], no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad


 :o :-X

Well it looks bigger :-[ :P :P......does size really matter anyway.... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 September 2010, 21:57:55
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o

Whats the floor loading like!

 ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D  It's the loft that worries me.... ::) ::) ::)
1930's house so decent material used... :)

I would't kid yourself to much on that..... ;D

They didn't use floor joists in the loft even then.....and many of the joists used back then would not meet the requirments of C16 or C24 timber for todays standards....and hence why you see many split beams in old roofs giving roof sag  :y


Not sure what that means but iirc, they are fully covered, I think they are 8 inches deep and 3 or 4 wide, don't quote me on the width though.

I seem to remember that they were OK for a loft conversion, (10 years ago)which we did not do.. ::) ::)

Thats the thing, size means nothing (and building control would know this....an architect or builder possibly not sadly)

The specs describe the maximum allowed number of faults (for example, natural features such as knots, wane and slope of grain,
plus splits and shakes which may have developed as
a result of drying).

Plus joist spacing is very important as well as span.

E.g. In old money a 9inch by 3 inch joist to the above specs will only span 5m (ish) at 400mm centres.

Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 06 September 2010, 22:09:02
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a couple of Tonnes, no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o

Whats the floor loading like!

 ;D ;D ;D

 :D :D  It's the loft that worries me.... ::) ::) ::)
1930's house so decent material used... :)

I would't kid yourself to much on that..... ;D

They didn't use floor joists in the loft even then.....and many of the joists used back then would not meet the requirments of C16 or C24 timber for todays standards....and hence why you see many split beams in old roofs giving roof sag  :y


Not sure what that means but iirc, they are fully covered, I think they are 8 inches deep and 3 or 4 wide, don't quote me on the width though.

I seem to remember that they were OK for a loft conversion, (10 years ago)which we did not do.. ::) ::)

Thats the thing, size means nothing (and building control would know this....an architect or builder possibly not sadly)

The specs describe the maximum allowed number of faults (for example, natural features such as knots, wane and slope of grain,
plus splits and shakes which may have developed as
a result of drying).

Plus joist spacing is very important as well as span.

E.g. In old money a 9inch by 3 inch joist to the above specs will only span 5m (ish) at 400mm centres.


Huh, ours go from front to back of the house with only a Lath and Plaster wall in the middle for most of the with upstairs......... ::)

I do keep meaning to clear it out, say it every year when I go up there just before Christmas.. ::) ::) ::) to put more stuff up there .. :-[
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Vamps on 07 September 2010, 00:02:39
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a [size=14]couple of Tonnes[/size][/highlight], no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad


 :o :-X

Well it looks bigger :-[ :P :P......does size really matter anyway.... :D :D :D

With hindsight, I think I was getting my feet mixed up with meters.... :-[
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Varche on 07 September 2010, 12:01:01
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a [size=14]couple of Tonnes[/size][/highlight], no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad


 :o :-X

Well it looks bigger :-[ :P :P......does size really matter anyway.... :D :D :D

With hindsight, I think I was getting my feet mixed up with meters.... :-[

Just as well Britain isn't in the EU! You had me worried about a tank that big in a loft. We have a 5 foot high five foot in diameter water tank outside that must  hold over 2000 Kg of water . That is on a concrete base. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Chris_H on 07 September 2010, 15:20:53
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a [size=14]couple of Tonnes[/size][/highlight], no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad


 :o :-X

Well it looks bigger :-[ :P :P......does size really matter anyway.... :D :D :D

With hindsight, I think I was getting my feet mixed up with meters.... :-[
I was wondering if that was water meters or electrickery ones!!! :D :D

If it helps, feet go backwards and forwards and meters go round and round. :D
Title: Re: Does anyone know how to calculate;
Post by: Sixstring on 07 September 2010, 15:28:21
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Easy enough, work out the volume (2m x 1.5m x 1.6m) and multiply by 1000Kg (one cubic meter of water is equal to one metric ton at 4degC which is the temp at which water is densist)

So your answer is 4800Kg or 4.8 metric tons.....so a lot

Thanks Mark, the question was not for me, but just got me thinking as well, our fish tank must weigh a [size=14]couple of Tonnes[/size][/highlight], no wonder the unit it is beginning to bow... :o :o


How big's yer fishy tank?

60cm wide x 60cm high x 36 cm deep, 130 Litres I believe , less a couple of big lava rocks ;D ;D ;D


130Kg so not to bad


 :o :-X

Well it looks bigger :-[ :P :P......does size really matter anyway.... :D :D :D

With hindsight, I think I was getting my feet mixed up with meters.... :-[
I was wondering if that was water meters or electrickery ones!!! :D :D

If it helps, feet go backwards and forwards and meters go round and round. :D


Or so i'm repeatedly told.............................