It is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying and so on - we will always remember what we were doing :'(...I was celebrating my birthday and they keep trying to spoil all the subsequent ones! ;D ;D
Since the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic
Since the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
Since the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
QuoteSince the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
fact.. and imo 1.2 million dead people is not something that can be ignored.. thanks Banjax :y :y
It is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying and so on - we will always remember what we were doing :'(
QuoteQuoteSince the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
fact.. and imo 1.2 million dead people is not something that can be ignored.. thanks Banjax :y :y
What has that to do with remembering those who died 0n this day in New York cem?
This thread was about them, should either you or BJ wish to start a thread on the war in Iraq or Afghanistan please do so - I'll be more than happy to contribute.
QuoteIt is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying and so on - we will always remember what we were doing :'(
Can I just rewrite that slightly?
It is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying, the US governemnt knowingly and deliberately demolishing the WTC buildings for financial benefit - we will always remember what we were doing
too soon?
it's Diana all over, no ones ready to put in context yet that's all :-?
QuoteQuoteIt is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying and so on - we will always remember what we were doing :'(
Can I just rewrite that slightly?
It is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying, the US governemnt knowingly and deliberately demolishing the WTC buildings for financial benefit - we will always remember what we were doing
Yes, and the Moon's made of cheese. Besides which, Elvis is alive and working in a chip shop.
Some people will believe anything. ::) ::)
QuoteQuoteQuoteSince the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
fact.. and imo 1.2 million dead people is not something that can be ignored.. thanks Banjax :y :y
What has that to do with remembering those who died 0n this day in New York cem?
This thread was about them, should either you or BJ wish to start a thread on the war in Iraq or Afghanistan please do so - I'll be more than happy to contribute.
Reason simple .. Regardless of their nation, they are all human lifes .. and they died starting from the same event.. [size=12]or after a series of related events wich started before september 11 2001[/size].. :-/
QuoteQuoteIt is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying and so on - we will always remember what we were doing :'(
Can I just rewrite that slightly?
It is one of those dramatic dates in history - man on the moon, Elvis dying, the US governemnt knowingly and deliberately demolishing the WTC buildings for financial benefit - we will always remember what we were doing
Yes, and the Moon's made of cheese. Besides which, Elvis is alive and working in a chip shop.
Some people will believe anything. ::) ::)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSince the subsequent invasion of Iraq (although the US and UK had never actually stopped bombing Iraq since the "end" of the smarter Bush's war in '91) just taking figures from 2003 there's been 1.2million civilians killed in Iraq alone, now aside from the fact that the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 atrocity were Saudis and Iraq had nothing to do with it, by my reckoning the death toll from 9/11 (around 3000) has been inflicted on Iraq 4 or 5 times a month since 2003. So yes, it was a tragedy, yes the police, fire crews, emergency services were unbelievably heroic but let's get it into perspective :o
So everyone wishing and "praying" this never happens again, but sorry, it happens weekly....just not in the States :(
fact.. and imo 1.2 million dead people is not something that can be ignored.. thanks Banjax :y :y
What has that to do with remembering those who died 0n this day in New York cem?
This thread was about them, should either you or BJ wish to start a thread on the war in Iraq or Afghanistan please do so - I'll be more than happy to contribute.
Reason simple .. Regardless of their nation, they are all human lifes .. and they died starting from the same event.. [size=12]or after a series of related events wich started before september 11 2001[/size].. :-/
I'm still confused how that fact relates to remembering those who died in New York.
Should I wish to remember those who died in other circumstances, I'll start a thread about it.
The WTC was losing huge amounts of money. Many floors of Tower 1 & 2 were deserted. It was sold for $15 Million 6 months before 911. It was then specifically iunsured for terrorist attack and collapse. The insurers paid out $7 Billion to the lucky buyer.
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Do your research people!
I dont know if it was a terrorist attack or a controlled demolition, and to be honest i dont really care!
This thread was to remember the people who lost their lives!!
God bless them all
(Take your theories and arguments to the other thread and respect the dead)
Zulu - you're right about another thread being appropriate.
As to that actual day I remember someone coming in to the office saying that they're flying planes into landmarks across the US, we went up to the conference room, stuck on the TV and watched in shock as the towers came down, reports flying all over the place (one was about a car-bomb in a van outside the whitehouse(!?)) - all part of the confusion on the day I guess :o