If you are refering to the Ronald Mc Burger one I was just about to contribute to it :-/
I deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
I deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
Ah, I missed that bit...QuoteI deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
After I went to all that trouble to find pictures of the admin team!
QuoteAh, I missed that bit...QuoteI deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
After I went to all that trouble to find pictures of the admin team!
/TB trundles off for a looksie, to see if Imber needs a ban :P
I am not Braveheart though ;)
But Hotel21 is true, that is desperately close to reality, except we wear fedoras and spurs...
Simples...
Nope...QuoteI am not Braveheart though ;)
But Hotel21 is true, that is desperately close to reality, except we wear fedoras and spurs...
Simples...
For the people who missed it can you resurrect Debs post and my reply?
And after yesterday, I'm doing no moderation work today ::)
QuoteAnd after yesterday, I'm doing no moderation work today ::)
So your here because you love the place?
It's exciting on here. You look at your post count, go to bed and when you walke up it's different. ;D ;D
The phantom night-time thread deleter. OOOER, I scared myself a bit there. :o
And after yesterday, I'm doing no moderation work today ::)
QuoteIt's exciting on here. You look at your post count, go to bed and when you walke up it's different. ;D ;D
The phantom night-time thread deleter. OOOER, I scared myself a bit there. :o
You in stirring mode again Steve. ::)
QuoteQuoteIt's exciting on here. You look at your post count, go to bed and when you walke up it's different. ;D ;D
The phantom night-time thread deleter. OOOER, I scared myself a bit there. :o
You in stirring mode again Steve. ::)
Consistent, that's me :y
QuoteQuoteQuoteIt's exciting on here. You look at your post count, go to bed and when you walke up it's different. ;D ;D
The phantom night-time thread deleter. OOOER, I scared myself a bit there. :o
You in stirring mode again Steve. ::)
Consistent, that's me :y
Don't you get my post deleted >:( :) :) :) ;)
I deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
QuoteI deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
Not one of my replies BTW. ;)
QuoteQuoteI deleted the copper vdaft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
Not one of my replies BTW. ;)
Maybe not, but a lot of them are.
I deleted the copper vNot that I'll lose much sleep over it, but why ?daft birdlady who may or may not have been phished in the drivers seat one last night. Much toeveryonessome people's disgust. Sorry.
The Team have just deleted one of STM0's due to one of the replies being rude, offensive and utterly unacceptable. And the 'pathetic' was deleted by a Mod, mainly because it had run its course.
HTH
Daw, can't we just lock them? Feel left out now... :'(
;D
Skrunitie a naughty boy!QuoteDaw, can't we just lock them? Feel left out now... :'(
;D
lol
I had a couple of days where I was too busy to read the oof, I do a catch up. and there was a 3 page backlog in gen chat, seems RB2 has left, and a few juicy threads have been deleted. serves me right for taking time out I suppose. plus to top it all I still aint got my post count back. ::) :y
QuoteSkrunitie a naughty boy!QuoteDaw, can't we just lock them? Feel left out now... :'(
;D
lol
I had a couple of days where I was too busy to read the oof, I do a catch up. and there was a 3 page backlog in gen chat, seems RB2 has left, and a few juicy threads have been deleted. serves me right for taking time out I suppose. plus to top it all I still aint got my post count back. ::) :y
Maybe a hall of shame section, locked of course, no I know it's not going to happen.
Things to do on oof.
King status. been there
Couple of guides. Would'nt know where to start.
Post count cull. Current situation
Thread in hall of shame.
Retire happy. ;D there's a thought, doubt I would be missed, and plenty would love that, STOM at the top of the list for that one. ;D ;D
Or in Estys case
As above...
Strop off and start again. :-X ;)
QuoteQuoteSkrunitie a naughty boy!QuoteDaw, can't we just lock them? Feel left out now... :'(
;D
lol
I had a couple of days where I was too busy to read the oof, I do a catch up. and there was a 3 page backlog in gen chat, seems RB2 has left, and a few juicy threads have been deleted. serves me right for taking time out I suppose. plus to top it all I still aint got my post count back. ::) :y
Maybe a hall of shame section, locked of course, no I know it's not going to happen.
Things to do on oof.
King status. been there
Couple of guides. Would'nt know where to start.
Post count cull. Current situation
Thread in hall of shame.
Retire happy. ;D there's a thought, doubt I would be missed, and plenty would love that, STOM at the top of the list for that one. ;D ;D
Or in Estys case
As above...
Strop off and start again. :-X ;)
Probably best to delete eventually admins, but can we not discuss it just a bit further as adults?
QuoteProbably best to delete eventually admins, but can we not discuss it just a bit further as adults?
Sadly, (based on long experience) it is evident that many such threads will inevitably deteriorate into unpleasantness with vociferous and sometimes personally insulting 'opinions' being expressed under the guise of 'free-speech' or as spreaking as an 'adult'......
The comment by the Cardinal about "agqressive atheism" (strangely) didn`t seem too-far from the truth; for, a mention of having a personal faith/belief these days and one may be the victim of the most insulting diatribe of derision by such "adults". :o
As with many `another forum, perhaps it`s better to accept that there are still subjects too personal for anonymous and therefore guilt/consequence-free discussions.
I would imagine the OOF admins are heartily sick of such topics and their ultimate consequences! ::)
Surely, nuff-said! ;)
It's a little sad that threads are 'moderated' on what the thread may or may not become before it even has a chance to become anything.
I fully understand your point of view Lizzie. However, punishing the many for the actions of a few isn't really fair.
I have moderated before myself, also for free, and I know it's not an easy job but anticipating what may or may not happen in a thread was certainly a big no no for the company I 'worked' for.
It's a dangerous area because users lose the right (and the will) to freely post their opinions, and a forum ran in that manner soon just becomes a place where anything other than what the mods or owners like is binned.
Of course I don't own or run this place so ultimately if that's how who ever does so chooses to run it, so be it. After all, I or anyone else have the choice not to come here.
It's funny though because in a recent thread someone commented on how new members may be put off joining by some of the content/comments made, I feel though a over moderated stiffled forum is far worse than an open one.
We are after all adults does anything written or spoken about on here really offend or upset anyone? It is, after all, not the 'real' world.
QuoteI fully understand your point of view Lizzie. However, punishing the many for the actions of a few isn't really fair.
I have moderated before myself, also for free, and I know it's not an easy job but anticipating what may or may not happen in a thread was certainly a big no no for the company I 'worked' for.
It's a dangerous area because users lose the right (and the will) to freely post their opinions, and a forum ran in that manner soon just becomes a place where anything other than what the mods or owners like is binned.
Of course I don't own or run this place so ultimately if that's how who ever does so chooses to run it, so be it. After all, I or anyone else have the choice not to come here.
It's funny though because in a recent thread someone commented on how new members may be put off joining by some of the content/comments made, I feel though a over moderated stiffled forum is far worse than an open one.
We are after all adults does anything written or spoken about on here really offend or upset anyone? It is, after all, not the 'real' world.
Fair comment Rufus! 8-) 8-) :y
Don't get me wrong, I'm not for one minute suggesting that a free for all is better, far from it.
Some control obviously needs to be had, the level of swearing kept to a minimum and of course abusive behaviour stomped on all together, so I am fine with how things are done :y
I do love to debate as you may have seen, and rightly or wrongly I like to have my say. But when threads are just removed because they may cause a problem later I don't feel is the right approach. Not everyone will agree or like what someone else says or thinks but that's just a fact of life.
If you would rather certain subjects not touched, then make that clear in a sticky or forum rules. Moving the goal posts because of moderator/owner feelings, workload or previous threads or others past behaviour isn't really fair.
Will another religion thread be removed?
Why did the Koran one stay?
Etc etc.
It's far easier to keep things in check if the users know what can and cannot be touched upon. If one minute something is OK and the next day it isn't it confuses me, let alone that fella that gets confused in M&S ::)
Some interesting points there Rufus. But I am with the Admin team here. I have seen a lot of threads start , develope and completely errumpt, simply because of one or 2 members (and with respect to all involved - they are generally the newer members) trying to get thier points accross in any way they can with out being open minded or agree to disagree.
If you follow most threads carefully you will see there is a balance and self moderate, and if the debate is reasonable the Admin just monitor it but are ready to pounce, delete or even NUKE the thread if they see fit. I have even knon TheBoy to pull a thread, let everyone
.0 chill and then enable it, which in all honesty could well work in the future.
The 2 types of thread that allways seem to be the problem causers are the religeous and the racial ones. A lot of us have a varied sence of humour and see past the problem and see it in the light hearted way it was meant. But if it hits a nerve for any reason with a single member then it becomes out of order and therefore best avoided, time and experiance on the forum help understand that. But adding to that in some cases it's open to discussion.
Admin have a crucial job of striking a balance that could sway either way, plus, and one that a lot forget, keeping the site LEGAL. We have known situations here where it has got out of hand it was so bad the site nearly got the plug pulled because of all the agro that was happening in the threads.
So the point I started with of backing the Admin/Mod team is that what they have learnt over the last 4+ years does work and the reason that the OOF community grows on a weekly basis, no every thing will not please eveyone, but that's life, and judgeing by the ammount of people here every week they agree. :y
Some interesting points there Rufus. But I am with the Admin team here. I have seen a lot of threads start , develope and completely errumpt, simply because of one or 2 members (and with respect to all involved - they are generally the newer members) trying to get thier points accross in any way they can with out being open minded or agree to disagree.
If you follow most threads carefully you will see there is a balance and self moderate, and if the debate is reasonable the Admin just monitor it but are ready to pounce, delete or even NUKE the thread if they see fit. I have even knon TheBoy to pull a thread, let everyone
.0 chill and then enable it, which in all honesty could well work in the future.
The 2 types of thread that allways seem to be the problem causers are the religeous and the racial ones. A lot of us have a varied sence of humour and see past the problem and see it in the light hearted way it was meant. But if it hits a nerve for any reason with a single member then it becomes out of order and therefore best avoided, time and experiance on the forum help understand that. But adding to that in some cases it's open to discussion.
Admin have a crucial job of striking a balance that could sway either way, plus, and one that a lot forget, keeping the site LEGAL. We have known situations here where it has got out of hand it was so bad the site nearly got the plug pulled because of all the agro that was happening in the threads.
So the point I started with of backing the Admin/Mod team is that what they have learnt over the last 4+ years does work and the reason that the OOF community grows on a weekly basis, no every thing will not please eveyone, but that's life, and judgeing by the ammount of people here every week they agree. :y
The point that should perhaps be bourne in mind here is that there are more than one mod/admin.
Each may or may not read EVERYTHING posted on here and may choose to rely on the admin team sharing the load/responsibility.
Ultimately, thread content is read by one or more of the admin team in the same way that users do and, in common with all OOF users, each can make a descision on the post/thread as to whether it needs moderation or not. Whats perceived as acceptable by one of the team may be wholly unacceptable to someone else, hence one may allow a posting to stay whilst another will delete or moderate it. That said, extremes of toleration are few and far between.
Hopefully the admin team have a reasonably level standard of the acceptable and, as TB says, none of us want to have to re-tread the path that was on here some weeks ago when OOF was not a pretty place to be and the workload on the admin team to try and get it back onto track was horrendous.
The point that should perhaps be bourne in mind here is that there are more than one mod/admin.
Each may or may not read EVERYTHING posted on here and may choose to rely on the admin team sharing the load/responsibility.
Ultimately, thread content is read by one or more of the admin team in the same way that users do and, in common with all OOF users, each can make a descision on the post/thread as to whether it needs moderation or not. Whats perceived as acceptable by one of the team may be wholly unacceptable to someone else, hence one may allow a posting to stay whilst another will delete or moderate it. That said, extremes of toleration are few and far between.
Hopefully the admin team have a reasonably level standard of the acceptable and, as TB says, none of us want to have to re-tread the path that was on here some weeks ago when OOF was not a pretty place to be and the workload on the admin team to try and get it back onto track was horrendous.
Also, as Hotel21 suggested, although all the members of the Admin Team have similar views on what is acceptable here, we are all individuals. If its a borderline subject, Hotel21, for example, may think its just on the acceptable side of the line, and I may think its just on the unacceptable side. Each of us may also be taking into account other factors that the other may not be entirely familiar with.
QuoteSome interesting points there Rufus. But I am with the Admin team here. I have seen a lot of threads start , develope and completely errumpt, simply because of one or 2 members (and with respect to all involved - they are generally the newer members) trying to get thier points accross in any way they can with out being open minded or agree to disagree.
If you follow most threads carefully you will see there is a balance and self moderate, and if the debate is reasonable the Admin just monitor it but are ready to pounce, delete or even NUKE the thread if they see fit. I have even knon TheBoy to pull a thread, let everyone
.0 chill and then enable it, which in all honesty could well work in the future.
The 2 types of thread that allways seem to be the problem causers are the religeous and the racial ones. A lot of us have a varied sence of humour and see past the problem and see it in the light hearted way it was meant. But if it hits a nerve for any reason with a single member then it becomes out of order and therefore best avoided, time and experiance on the forum help understand that. But adding to that in some cases it's open to discussion.
Admin have a crucial job of striking a balance that could sway either way, plus, and one that a lot forget, keeping the site LEGAL. We have known situations here where it has got out of hand it was so bad the site nearly got the plug pulled because of all the agro that was happening in the threads.
So the point I started with of backing the Admin/Mod team is that what they have learnt over the last 4+ years does work and the reason that the OOF community grows on a weekly basis, no every thing will not please eveyone, but that's life, and judgeing by the ammount of people here every week they agree. :y
You make a lot of the points I made earlier to RufusZuluSkruntie. However you, nor did I, really answer his main question ::) ::) ::)
Why was the thread on Religion so quickly 'pulled' after just the initial posting and your answer (which would have been followed by mine) when the one on "International Burn-a-Koran Day!" was not and ran for pages. If you look at the opening gambit of the latter it was already full of contention, being certainly judged by me, Proz, and obviously The Boy who posted a warning, as being a very dangerous area for OOF debate, so why was that not pulled as well?
That is what Rufus is fairly asking, which I think is a fair point.
The Admins of course have the final say, but should we not have a set Standard; no religious threads?? :-/ :-/
QuoteQuoteSome interesting points there Rufus. But I am with the Admin team here. I have seen a lot of threads start , develope and completely errumpt, simply because of one or 2 members (and with respect to all involved - they are generally the newer members) trying to get thier points accross in any way they can with out being open minded or agree to disagree.
If you follow most threads carefully you will see there is a balance and self moderate, and if the debate is reasonable the Admin just monitor it but are ready to pounce, delete or even NUKE the thread if they see fit. I have even knon TheBoy to pull a thread, let everyone
.0 chill and then enable it, which in all honesty could well work in the future.
The 2 types of thread that allways seem to be the problem causers are the religeous and the racial ones. A lot of us have a varied sence of humour and see past the problem and see it in the light hearted way it was meant. But if it hits a nerve for any reason with a single member then it becomes out of order and therefore best avoided, time and experiance on the forum help understand that. But adding to that in some cases it's open to discussion.
Admin have a crucial job of striking a balance that could sway either way, plus, and one that a lot forget, keeping the site LEGAL. We have known situations here where it has got out of hand it was so bad the site nearly got the plug pulled because of all the agro that was happening in the threads.
So the point I started with of backing the Admin/Mod team is that what they have learnt over the last 4+ years does work and the reason that the OOF community grows on a weekly basis, no every thing will not please eveyone, but that's life, and judgeing by the ammount of people here every week they agree. :y
You make a lot of the points I made earlier to RufusZuluSkruntie. However you, nor did I, really answer his main question ::) ::) ::)
Why was the thread on Religion so quickly 'pulled' after just the initial posting and your answer (which would have been followed by mine) when the one on "International Burn-a-Koran Day!" was not and ran for pages. If you look at the opening gambit of the latter it was already full of contention, being certainly judged by me, Proz, and obviously The Boy who posted a warning, as being a very dangerous area for OOF debate, so why was that not pulled as well?
That is what Rufus is fairly asking, which I think is a fair point.
The Admins of course have the final say, but should we not have a set Standard; no religious threads?? :-/ :-/
Simple in my case Lizzie, I cant comment on what I did.nr read, and neither have I read the koran thread, allthough I do have my views and reason's but I certainly would'nt debate religious matters on here.
As above I wont debate religeous, plus polital or racial matters and posibly a few others.Why? - read the bottom of every post I make.
Ask yourself : " WHY do I believe what I believe?"
Remember that my opinions expressed here are not representative of the opinions of other members on the OOF Forum.
QuoteQuoteQuoteSome interesting points there Rufus. But I am with the Admin team here. I have seen a lot of threads start , develope and completely errumpt, simply because of one or 2 members (and with respect to all involved - they are generally the newer members) trying to get thier points accross in any way they can with out being open minded or agree to disagree.
If you follow most threads carefully you will see there is a balance and self moderate, and if the debate is reasonable the Admin just monitor it but are ready to pounce, delete or even NUKE the thread if they see fit. I have even knon TheBoy to pull a thread, let everyone
.0 chill and then enable it, which in all honesty could well work in the future.
The 2 types of thread that allways seem to be the problem causers are the religeous and the racial ones. A lot of us have a varied sence of humour and see past the problem and see it in the light hearted way it was meant. But if it hits a nerve for any reason with a single member then it becomes out of order and therefore best avoided, time and experiance on the forum help understand that. But adding to that in some cases it's open to discussion.
Admin have a crucial job of striking a balance that could sway either way, plus, and one that a lot forget, keeping the site LEGAL. We have known situations here where it has got out of hand it was so bad the site nearly got the plug pulled because of all the agro that was happening in the threads.
So the point I started with of backing the Admin/Mod team is that what they have learnt over the last 4+ years does work and the reason that the OOF community grows on a weekly basis, no every thing will not please eveyone, but that's life, and judgeing by the ammount of people here every week they agree. :y
You make a lot of the points I made earlier to RufusZuluSkruntie. However you, nor did I, really answer his main question ::) ::) ::)
Why was the thread on Religion so quickly 'pulled' after just the initial posting and your answer (which would have been followed by mine) when the one on "International Burn-a-Koran Day!" was not and ran for pages. If you look at the opening gambit of the latter it was already full of contention, being certainly judged by me, Proz, and obviously The Boy who posted a warning, as being a very dangerous area for OOF debate, so why was that not pulled as well?
That is what Rufus is fairly asking, which I think is a fair point.
The Admins of course have the final say, but should we not have a set Standard; no religious threads?? :-/ :-/
Simple in my case Lizzie, I cant comment on what I did.nr read, and neither have I read the koran thread, allthough I do have my views and reason's but I certainly would'nt debate religious matters on here.
As above I wont debate religeous, plus polital or racial matters and posibly a few others.Why? - read the bottom of every post I make.
Ask yourself : " WHY do I believe what I believe?"
Remember that my opinions expressed here are not representative of the opinions of other members on the OOF Forum.
That's right Skruntie, and you are wise not to. My question was though (now clearly well answered by Ht21 and TB) why was one thread pulled when the other one was allowed to continue.
Going on from what you correctly state Skruntie, should the forum have a policy of no discussion on Religion or Race to avoid the heartache and work they give the Admins? Do all members need the heartache also that can lead to high blood pressue?
After all the OOF IS a car forum, no more, no less! ::) ::)
;) ;)
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSome interesting points there Rufus. But I am with the Admin team here. I have seen a lot of threads start , develope and completely errumpt, simply because of one or 2 members (and with respect to all involved - they are generally the newer members) trying to get thier points accross in any way they can with out being open minded or agree to disagree.
If you follow most threads carefully you will see there is a balance and self moderate, and if the debate is reasonable the Admin just monitor it but are ready to pounce, delete or even NUKE the thread if they see fit. I have even knon TheBoy to pull a thread, let everyone
.0 chill and then enable it, which in all honesty could well work in the future.
The 2 types of thread that allways seem to be the problem causers are the religeous and the racial ones. A lot of us have a varied sence of humour and see past the problem and see it in the light hearted way it was meant. But if it hits a nerve for any reason with a single member then it becomes out of order and therefore best avoided, time and experiance on the forum help understand that. But adding to that in some cases it's open to discussion.
Admin have a crucial job of striking a balance that could sway either way, plus, and one that a lot forget, keeping the site LEGAL. We have known situations here where it has got out of hand it was so bad the site nearly got the plug pulled because of all the agro that was happening in the threads.
So the point I started with of backing the Admin/Mod team is that what they have learnt over the last 4+ years does work and the reason that the OOF community grows on a weekly basis, no every thing will not please eveyone, but that's life, and judgeing by the ammount of people here every week they agree. :y
You make a lot of the points I made earlier to RufusZuluSkruntie. However you, nor did I, really answer his main question ::) ::) ::)
Why was the thread on Religion so quickly 'pulled' after just the initial posting and your answer (which would have been followed by mine) when the one on "International Burn-a-Koran Day!" was not and ran for pages. If you look at the opening gambit of the latter it was already full of contention, being certainly judged by me, Proz, and obviously The Boy who posted a warning, as being a very dangerous area for OOF debate, so why was that not pulled as well?
That is what Rufus is fairly asking, which I think is a fair point.
The Admins of course have the final say, but should we not have a set Standard; no religious threads?? :-/ :-/
Simple in my case Lizzie, I cant comment on what I did.nr read, and neither have I read the koran thread, allthough I do have my views and reason's but I certainly would'nt debate religious matters on here.
As above I wont debate religeous, plus polital or racial matters and posibly a few others.Why? - read the bottom of every post I make.
Ask yourself : " WHY do I believe what I believe?"
Remember that my opinions expressed here are not representative of the opinions of other members on the OOF Forum.
That's right Skruntie, and you are wise not to. My question was though (now clearly well answered by Ht21 and TB) why was one thread pulled when the other one was allowed to continue.
Going on from what you correctly state Skruntie, should the forum have a policy of no discussion on Religion or Race to avoid the heartache and work they give the Admins? Do all members need the heartache also that can lead to high blood pressue?
After all the OOF IS a car forum, no more, no less! ::) ::)
;) ;)
As long as I have been on The Forum its always being a "Think about what your putting place."
I swear as much if not more than most, anyone that has met me will know that.. I do not do it on here though. I love Women and the tongue in cheek banter with them but would not insult them.
I have deleted whole threads Lizzie, as I have had several complaints about them. Being fair I don't have the time to read through the insults be it sexist, racist etc... But should we need to do that??? People keep saying we are adults on here so why is there a need to keep deleting posts/threads?? The idea of the Guidelines not Rules has created a more relaxed place to be most of the time.
Anyway this has all been said before, and for any of us to keep going on and on about the same thing is tedious.
:)