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Title: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 September 2010, 11:04:28
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Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: maria on 25 September 2010, 17:05:29
Some nice pictures there optimist :y
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 September 2010, 17:41:46
Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/

I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Amigo on 25 September 2010, 18:48:50
Loving the Fizzy. Exactly the same as mine when i was 16. Loads of us had them. We used to ride round the underground road under Worthing Bowl over & over again & hang out in the Viking coffee bar in Ann St.
   KWV 30P. Happy days!!! 8-)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Tony H on 25 September 2010, 19:43:48
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 September 2010, 19:45:43
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Tony H on 25 September 2010, 19:58:26
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 September 2010, 20:19:04
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that


Yes and of course it had twin carbs, which was great technology then, and we all wanted them for our cars (Webber carbs, mmmmmm 8-) 8-)),  but now nowhere as efficient as an injection system ::) ::)

 ;)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Tony H on 25 September 2010, 20:34:16
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that


Yes and of course it had twin carbs, which was great technology then, and we all wanted them for our cars (Webber carbs, mmmmmm 8-) 8-)),  but now nowhere as efficient as an injection system ::) ::)

 ;)
Yep twin carbs but on both banks, the 5.3 knocked out 240+ bhp and the 6.0 developed 300+ I can't see that ther would be a great deal of weight difference between a Mig and an E type so it must be down to drag coeff. One of the reasons that Rats chose an Omega for his "rocket ship" project 8-)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 September 2010, 20:49:32
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that


Yes and of course it had twin carbs, which was great technology then, and we all wanted them for our cars (Webber carbs, mmmmmm 8-) 8-)),  but now nowhere as efficient as an injection system ::) ::)

 ;)
Yep twin carbs but on both banks, the 5.3 knocked out 240+ bhp and the 6.0 developed 300+ I can't see that ther would be a great deal of weight difference between a Mig and an E type so it must be down to drag coeff. One of the reasons that Rats chose an Omega for his "rocket ship" project 8-)



I never knew they had four :o :o.  I believed it was just the two :) :)  Just tuning one was always a challenge to get it perfect, but four.........!! :o :o
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Bent valve on 25 September 2010, 21:33:25
Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 September 2010, 22:26:30
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/

I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)


Spot on Lizzie.....also used in the XJ12.. :-* :-*
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 September 2010, 22:29:41
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 25 September 2010, 22:32:03
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that

Cant remember a 6.0 as standard, I know lister bored out the XJS lump to 6.0

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=789&bih=391&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=lister+xjs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 25 September 2010, 22:33:55
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....

Great looking cars though.
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Bent valve on 25 September 2010, 22:42:13
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....
Or power. The thing to do at the time was to put a Rover  or Ford V engine in when the original went goosed, which makes me wonder what a stag would be like with a 3.2 omega motor fitted  :)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Vamps on 25 September 2010, 22:49:25
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Loving the Fizzy. Exactly the same as mine when i was 16. Loads of us had them. We used to ride round the underground road under Worthing Bowl over & over again & hang out in the Viking coffee bar in Ann St.
   KWV 30P. Happy days!!! 8-)


I was a Honda SS50 lad myself......... :D :D :D
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 September 2010, 23:12:05
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Loving the Fizzy. Exactly the same as mine when i was 16. Loads of us had them. We used to ride round the underground road under Worthing Bowl over & over again & hang out in the Viking coffee bar in Ann St.
   KWV 30P. Happy days!!! 8-)


I was a Honda SS50 lad myself......... :D :D :D


No 2 stroke fumes for you then..... :D ;)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: albitz on 26 September 2010, 00:35:55
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Loving the Fizzy. Exactly the same as mine when i was 16. Loads of us had them. We used to ride round the underground road under Worthing Bowl over & over again & hang out in the Viking coffee bar in Ann St.
   KWV 30P. Happy days!!! 8-)


I was a Honda SS50 lad myself......... :D :D :D
According to the mad Stokie, I still am. ::) ;D
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2010, 11:13:36
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that

Cant remember a 6.0 as standard, I know lister bored out the XJS lump to 6.0

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=789&bih=391&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=lister+xjs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=


Yep......later models bored out to 6 litres ...Skrunts..  :y:y
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 September 2010, 11:59:26
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....
Or power. The thing to do at the time was to put a Rover  or Ford V engine in when the original went goosed, which makes me wonder what a stag would be like with a 3.2 omega motor fitted  :)

WAY to heavy.

I quite like the Triump V8, its 'different' being two 4's welded together.

But the Rover V8 was a better lump in its day and slightly lighter plus it had more grunt (for about 20K miles then it dropped away quite quickly!)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 September 2010, 15:37:25
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....
Or power. The thing to do at the time was to put a Rover  or Ford V engine in when the original went goosed, which makes me wonder what a stag would be like with a 3.2 omega motor fitted  :)

WAY to heavy.

I quite like the Triump V8, its 'different' being two 4's welded together.

But the Rover V8 was a better lump in its day and slightly lighter plus it had more grunt (for about 20K miles then it dropped away quite quickly!)

Stag's let down was it's cooling system, as said thed basicaly welded 2 1500's together without out much thought or testing by the looks od things
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 September 2010, 15:39:51
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that

Cant remember a 6.0 as standard, I know lister bored out the XJS lump to 6.0

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=789&bih=391&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=lister+xjs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=


Yep......later models bored out to 6 litres ...Skrunts..  :y:y

Correct me if I am wrong but wasnt a particular series of the E type fitted with the 3.8 or 4.2 much  quicker up to 100 mph than any of the V12's
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2010, 16:12:22
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Lovely pictures Optimist! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

That top one appears to be a Jaguar E-Type V12.  Am I right? :-/ :-/
I have posted a picture of one in the other thread:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/ETypeV12Engine.jpg)

 ;)
Same top speed as as Miggy 3LTR just show how much more efficient modern engines are


Wow!! :o :o :o

They certainly are Tony! :D :D :D ;)
The V12 came in either 5.3 or 6.0 ltr sizes so give or take double the size of the GM V6 that said the E type had a drag coefficient of 5 which suprised me I would have thught it would have been alot more slippery than that

Cant remember a 6.0 as standard, I know lister bored out the XJS lump to 6.0

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=789&bih=391&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=lister+xjs&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=


Yep......later models bored out to 6 litres ...Skrunts..  :y:y

Correct me if I am wrong but wasnt a particular series of the E type fitted with the 3.8 or 4.2 much  quicker up to 100 mph than any of the V12's

I'd agree with that......The early 3.8 and 4.2 weighed in at about 1250-1300Kg.....the later fat bas*ard 5.3 litre V12....was mainly built to keep the lard arse yanks happy. :y :y
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 September 2010, 20:01:43
Some of my favourites:

(http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/pu_doncaster_works_31.10.80_bp.jpg)

(http://wheels-and-wings.org.uk/images/napier-sabre-iii-aero-engine.jpg)

(http://www.spitfire.dk/NyGriffon.JPG)

(http://www.v8engines.com/images/v8ii.gif)

(http://www.birmingham-railway-carriage.com/Pix/Scan0017.jpg)

(If anybody has a spare of the small blue drain pipe on the front face I need one  ;D)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/coskev3/engine.jpg)

(http://image.vetteweb.com/f/8767622/vemp_0712w_01_z+2009_corvette_ZR1_LS9_engine+.jpg)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 September 2010, 20:04:58
Impressive looking engines Mark :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 September 2010, 20:19:59
Gotta be the corvette lump for me.

and if my lottery numbers comeup I am fitting one of these in the rear of a FWD transit van for playing down at santa pod. 

http://bankspower.com/techarticles/show/4-twin-turbo-v8-facts-of-life-

http://bankspower.com/products/show/267/85
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: zvi on 26 September 2010, 20:35:12
nice engines
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 September 2010, 21:07:25
(http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f25/6444d1102071100-whats-latest-low-weight-engines-rst_v8.jpeg)

(http://f1-dictionary.110mb.com/images/Ford%20Cosworth%20DFV%20koji%20je%20dominirao%20Formulom%201%20u%20periodu%201967.%20-%201983.jpg)

 :-*

Kevin
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: aaronjb on 26 September 2010, 21:09:14
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(http://www.spitfire.dk/NyGriffon.JPG)

Now that's a proper engine..

I did have some nice pictures of aero engines after a trip to the Shuttleworth Collection (well worth it if you're into aviation history, racing cars and/or engines) .. and sadly now I can't find them :(

Guess I'll just have to go back, then!
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 September 2010, 21:13:17
It may be considered heresy but, I much prefer the Sabre to the Merlin or Griffon
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 September 2010, 21:14:39
(http://www.kbsm.org/images/stories/engines/90head.jpg)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 September 2010, 21:15:51
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(http://www.kbsm.org/images/stories/engines/90head.jpg)

Not exactly mobile...... ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 September 2010, 21:24:58
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....


Imagine a 4l 32v version very possible as the V8 was based on the 1500cc engine which was closely related to the Dolomite Sprint engine
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 September 2010, 21:26:12
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Some of my favourites:

(http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/pu_doncaster_works_31.10.80_bp.jpg)

(http://wheels-and-wings.org.uk/images/napier-sabre-iii-aero-engine.jpg)

(http://www.spitfire.dk/NyGriffon.JPG)

(http://www.v8engines.com/images/v8ii.gif)

(http://www.birmingham-railway-carriage.com/Pix/Scan0017.jpg)

(If anybody has a spare of the small blue drain pipe on the front face I need one  ;D)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/coskev3/engine.jpg)

(http://image.vetteweb.com/f/8767622/vemp_0712w_01_z+2009_corvette_ZR1_LS9_engine+.jpg)


I'd recognise a Napier D18-25 anywhere
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 September 2010, 21:27:56
I prefer these to the Sulzers

(http://www.class50.net/assets/IH6937_20071103_01.jpg)
Title: Re: A Few Engine Pics & A Fizzy
Post by: Bent valve on 26 September 2010, 22:50:40
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Second one down is a Triumph Snag.
Dont ever buy one, they're Shit. ::)


Yep...with a 3 litre V8......not known for it's reliability....


Imagine a 4l 32v version very possible as the V8 was based on the 1500cc engine which was closely related to the Dolomite Sprint engine
The stag engine was not based on the 1500 pushrod engine, rather the 1850 single overhead cam engine, and yes, a 4 litre 32 valver based on the sprint engine would have been possible but I imagine that the cam chain mechanism would have been a bit of a nightmare, as well as the inevitable overheating  ;D