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Title: Gatsos
Post by: Andy B on 14 October 2010, 21:15:13
Just out of interest - No! I haven't been zapped  ;D  ;D - but what exactly are the lines on the road just after a Gatso used for? They resurfaced a road on the way to work a few weeks back, & although the rest of the white lines have been replaced, the lines for the Gatso haven't. Does this mean I can do more than 30mph without a NIP through the door .... not that the thought would ever enter my head  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: david036 on 14 October 2010, 21:41:41
Was always under the impression that the gatso's have to have the lines so the camera peps can tell exactly how fast you were going!! ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: PhilRich on 14 October 2010, 21:44:31
They are speed calibration lines Andy, so no lines = no ticket as the camera is effectively uncalibrated :y
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Andy B on 14 October 2010, 22:00:18
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They are speed calibration lines Andy, so no lines = no ticket as the camera is effectively uncalibrated :y

I think I'll just slow back to stick to 30mph when I go passed ...... just in case.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Del Boy on 14 October 2010, 22:02:10
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They are speed calibration lines Andy, so no lines = no ticket as the camera is effectively uncalibrated :y

I think I'll just slow back to stick to 30mph when I go passed ...... just in case.  ;D ;D

No lines it can't work, the same is true if you drive over the middle of the road, for example not on the white lines or so I'm told  ::)
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: waspy on 14 October 2010, 22:02:58
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They are speed calibration lines Andy, so no lines = no ticket as the camera is effectively uncalibrated :y

You try it & we'll wait un see ;D :y
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Andy B on 14 October 2010, 22:10:16
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They are speed calibration lines Andy, so no lines = no ticket as the camera is effectively uncalibrated :y

You try it & we'll wait un see ;D :y

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: sassanach on 14 October 2010, 22:29:16
gatso nips are just as valid with or without the SECONDARY speed check markings
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: tunnie on 14 October 2010, 22:32:41
Those Gatso cameras are not as fancy as they like us to believe, all tickets generated by those kind must be manually checked and the lines counted, as they can work out your rough speed with them. As phil says no lines no ticket as they cannot see if the camera was right.
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Welung666 on 14 October 2010, 22:37:01
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Those Gatso cameras are not as fancy as they like us to believe, all tickets generated by those kind must be manually checked and the lines counted, as they can work out your rough speed with them. As phil says no lines no ticket as they cannot see if the camera was right.
 

Exactly right. That is why they take 2 pictures one second apart, each line represents 5 miles per hour so doing 30 you should only have covered 6 lines in a second.
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Simon72 on 14 October 2010, 22:43:26
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They are speed calibration lines Andy, so no lines = no ticket as the camera is effectively uncalibrated :y

I think I'll just slow back to stick to 30mph when I go passed ...... just in case.  ;D ;D

No lines it can't work, the same is true if you drive over the middle of the road, for example not on the white lines or so I'm told  ::)

NOT TRUE at all ;-)

The lines are digitally lengthened left to right so that they can still calculate your actual speed.. If this was true EVERYONE would be driving in the middle of the road, lol

I use a nice little hidden device called the CHEETAR, this is a internal rear view mirror that clips over my exsiting mirror and it detects Speed cameras, it is amazing how many are actually turned off ;-)

(http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Cheetah-GPSMirror-Speed-Red-Light-Camera-Detector-1.jpg)

http://www.speedcheetah.com/scshop/page.php?xPage=GPSmirrorpics.html
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: sassanach on 14 October 2010, 22:47:48
gatso's do not need the paint, ignore at your peril
http://tna.europarchive.org/20100413151426/http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/about-us/freedom-of-information/released-information/foi-archive-research1/8016-GATSO-speed-camerasa8cf.html?view=Html
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 October 2010, 22:48:03
Even if there aren't lines on the road the GATSO will record the measured speed from its' doppler radar. The lines are only there as a double check for borderline cases.

In addition, if there are no lines on the road, other markings can still be picked up. Distance between the cats' eyes, cracks in the paving slabs, whatever. If they are determined enough they'll send someone out with a tape measure. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: aaronjb on 14 October 2010, 22:51:47
So .. the only solution is to always be going fast enough that you don't even appear in the second photo (what was it, 174mph or something?)  ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: sassanach on 14 October 2010, 22:54:08
or get the timing perfect for the second photo to show  yourself giving the "bird " to the camera :y
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: aaronjb on 14 October 2010, 22:55:24
;D I think that might just guarantee extra points..

And everyone knows what points make!


That's right! Points make prizes!

(Nurse! Time for my medication..  :D )
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: sassanach on 14 October 2010, 22:57:34
i will dig out the pic, me riding down the road on my m/c, pic one nowt, and 0.6 seconds later...........  ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: sassanach on 14 October 2010, 22:58:27
i even rang them and offered more loot for a bigger pic but they declined.
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Andy B on 14 October 2010, 23:23:19
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The lines are digitally lengthened left to right so that they can still calculate your actual speed.. If this was true EVERYONE would be driving in the middle of the road, lol....

So, why do some site have lines on the other side of the road, even when the camera is only 'looking' in one direction? ie
(http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Crompton+Way,+Bolton&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.52256,43.286133&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Crompton+Way,+Bolton+BL2,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.598226,-2.421214&spn=0.001668,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.598225,-2.421399&panoid=5-AtwXgzDzjLYekppei8ug&cbp=12,80.79,,0,18.52)

ps FAM recovery is who recovered me home the other day when my fan belt went  ;)
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: maria on 14 October 2010, 23:30:17
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;D I think that might just guarantee extra points..

And everyone knows what points make!


That's right! Points make prizes!

(Nurse! Time for my medication..  :D )
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Yeah its time for your medication ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: hotel21 on 15 October 2010, 00:01:47
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The lines are digitally lengthened left to right so that they can still calculate your actual speed.. If this was true EVERYONE would be driving in the middle of the road, lol....

So, why do some site have lines on the other side of the road, even when the camera is only 'looking' in one direction? ie
(http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Crompton+Way,+Bolton&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.52256,43.286133&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Crompton+Way,+Bolton+BL2,+United+Kingdom&ll=53.598226,-2.421214&spn=0.001668,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=53.598225,-2.421399&panoid=5-AtwXgzDzjLYekppei8ug&cbp=12,80.79,,0,18.52)

ps FAM recovery is who recovered me home the other day when my fan belt went  ;)

Some are set to flash (as a warning) for vehicles travelling in the opposite direction to that originally intended.

Some are set as forward facing/taking/nicking cameras as well...

Paint marks on the road are called 'ruler' marks as, once a print is made, if a ruler is placed between marks on related photographs, relative speed of vehicles can be confirmed rather than simply reliant on the doppler technology within the kit in the first place - in other words, if the case is argued after NIP is served.....   ;)

Perhaps if paint marks are missing then case can be argued?  After you set a stated case, I'll perhaps take further notice.....   ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: Andy B on 15 October 2010, 00:22:40
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..... After you set a stated case, I'll perhaps take further notice.....   ;D

Can I decline  your kind offer?  ;)  ;) ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Gatsos
Post by: aaronjb on 15 October 2010, 10:24:18
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;D I think that might just guarantee extra points..

And everyone knows what points make!


That's right! Points make prizes!

(Nurse! Time for my medication..  :D )
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Yeah its time for your medication ;D ;D

Well I waited and waited.. but you didn't turn up in a nurses outfit to administer it!  :'(