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Title: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Turk on 22 October 2010, 01:35:02
:-/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8075563/Every-email-and-website-to-be-stored.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=VUMPin
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Martin_1962 on 22 October 2010, 07:57:00
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This is a reason I voted for those lot - I thought this was a nulab Stazi thing like the ID cards
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 22 October 2010, 08:18:50
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This is a reason I voted for those lot - I thought this was a nulab Stazi thing like the ID cards
 


Ooh Martin, given this new surveillance culture should you really be saying that? :-/ ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: mrgreen on 22 October 2010, 09:23:44
it's just wrong but i geuss phone number records have been stored many times before but i don't know for how long
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Nickbat on 22 October 2010, 09:41:45
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.   >:( >:(

Proud to have voted UKIP.  :y
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2010, 09:49:39
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This is a reason I voted for those lot - I thought this was a nulab Stazi thing like the ID cards
This isn't new - ISPs have been required to keep logs for ages anyway. Thats all it is, logs. Not contents.

No different to your phone company (fixed or mobile) having to keep a record of made/recvd calls, which they have had to do for several years.

Maintaining a list of webpages visited will probably bump up storage requirements, and will be a cost that the ISP will have to pass on, but storage is getting cheap, and massive - we are installing 0.75PB storage arrays now, and I suspect this will grow exponentially in the next couple of years, as most company's backups are moved away from expensive tape solutions, as tape get resigned to archival functions only.
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 October 2010, 09:51:30
Well if information I was made aware of years ago is true, then every email written and sent is checked any way , for terrorist and other sort s of illegal actions looking for problem gorups and code words etc.

We dont know hald of what is being checked whether they admit it or not.

Web sites are designed in ways to track your viewing and watching/net activities, you cant hide  or do anything with out being watched.

If they watched and checked Yahoo and MS messenger between couples then most would probably have thier accounts shut down for what they talk about.

Big brother allways spoils things, so people find ways arround it and then big brother gets more suspicious.

People want and deserve privacy, why change it.  if people dont want to be found they find an underground metho to get round it.  By leaving them alone they can be monitored if there is a reason to do so.
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2010, 09:55:16
And there is not much point in storing the contents - any would-be terrorist would hopefully have the intelligence to use decent encryption, and encryption has the potential to outpace processing growth.


(Obviously, you hope the idiots do not have the intelligence, but it ain't rocket science)
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: aaronjb on 22 October 2010, 10:52:00
Indeed - if you're really worried about privacy you should be encrypting every bit of traffic that leaves you or comes to you - including emails, only visiting sites via HTTPS, use an encrypted VPN that exits in a country without such logging requirements and so on..

And that's been the case forever ;)
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Banjax on 22 October 2010, 13:30:06
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And there is not much point in storing the contents - any would-be terrorist would hopefully have the intelligence to use decent encryption, and encryption has the potential to outpace processing growth.


(Obviously, you hope the idiots do not have the intelligence, but it ain't rocket science)

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Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: Chris_H on 22 October 2010, 14:36:57
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This is a reason I voted for those lot - I thought this was a nulab Stazi thing like the ID cards
This isn't new - ISPs have been required to keep logs for ages anyway. Thats all it is, logs. Not contents.

No different to your phone company (fixed or mobile) having to keep a record of made/recvd calls, which they have had to do for several years.

Maintaining a list of webpages visited will probably bump up storage requirements, and will be a cost that the ISP will have to pass on, but storage is getting cheap, and massive - we are installing 0.75PB storage arrays now, and I suspect this will grow exponentially in the next couple of years, as most company's backups are moved away from expensive tape solutions, as tape get resigned to archival functions only.
You only have to get all your friends to run a web crawler and their storage will run out very fast! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Every email and website to be stored
Post by: TheBoy on 22 October 2010, 15:56:14
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>:( >:( >:( >:(

This is a reason I voted for those lot - I thought this was a nulab Stazi thing like the ID cards
This isn't new - ISPs have been required to keep logs for ages anyway. Thats all it is, logs. Not contents.

No different to your phone company (fixed or mobile) having to keep a record of made/recvd calls, which they have had to do for several years.

Maintaining a list of webpages visited will probably bump up storage requirements, and will be a cost that the ISP will have to pass on, but storage is getting cheap, and massive - we are installing 0.75PB storage arrays now, and I suspect this will grow exponentially in the next couple of years, as most company's backups are moved away from expensive tape solutions, as tape get resigned to archival functions only.
You only have to get all your friends to run a web crawler and their storage will run out very fast! ;D ;D
Maybe ISP charges will be based on pages viewed as well as bandwidth used  :-X

Pretty much every ISP out there is struggling to keep on top of DNS infrastructure, as DNS growth along has been unbelievable