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Title: Parking Starzi
Post by: cleggy on 27 October 2010, 13:06:59
My neighbour has just popped round spitting feathers, waving a parking ticket in his hand. He got a PCN for not parking within the white lines of a designating parking bay. He was just over them at one side.
He had nipped to our local shops (if you google ' Wollaton, Bramcote Lane shops' on satellite view, and street view it will give you an idea of the layout).
The STARZI was on a moped ticketing every car that was just over, or on the lines deliniating the bays. >:( >:( >:(
Has anyone else heard of this restriction? The ticket stated that his car was under observation for 1 minute. >:( >:( >:(
I have emailed the council to contest this ticket on the grounds that no signs exist in the area to indicate that one must park within the parking bay. So we'll have to see what happens.
However in my opinion it is absolutely bloody stupid, and just another revenue making game at motorist expense
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: mantahatch on 27 October 2010, 13:13:04
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My neighbour has just popped round spitting feathers, waving a parking ticket in his hand. He got a PCN for not parking within the white lines of a designating parking bay. He was just over them at one side.
He had nipped to our local shops (if you google ' Wollaton, Bramcote Lane shops' on satellite view, and street view it will give you an idea of the layout).
The STARZI was on a moped ticketing every car that was just over, or on the lines deliniating the bays. >:( >:( >:(
Has anyone else heard of this restriction? The ticket stated that his car was under observation for 1 minute. >:( >:( >:(
I have emailed the council to contest this ticket on the grounds that no signs exist in the area to indicate that one must park with the parking bay. So we'll have to see what happens.
However in my opinion it is absolutely bloody stupid, and just another revenue making game at motorist expense


Think you found the nail with the hammer there.   :y
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Varche on 27 October 2010, 13:17:01
This is the sort of thing that drove me away from Britain. Life is tough enough as it is. I dare say the parking warden is on bonus for bookings!


Spain is just as bad now. I parked in the last spot on a road in an unfamiliar town. When I came back my car (and all the others) was gone and there was just a sticker on the kerb saying "been towed". Cost me 140 euros to get it back when the pound opened again at 8 p.m.! The signs were obscured by overgrown orange trees.

 Magically they were pruned the next day!
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: andyc on 27 October 2010, 16:10:27
Same sort of thing happen a few years back as we were leaving the Scooter Rally in Gt Yarmouth.

We had a car, van and a scooter, 3 vehicles, taking up three spaces. We got a ticket saying we were not paked within the white lines, this was at 8:30pm and we were the only ones on the car park.

Okwe were parked in at an angle with the van over one line and the scooter inbetween the two vehicles and locked to the van

When we phoned them we also told them that we also had three valid car park tickets that we paid for by mistake, no charge after 6:00pm.

They did agree in the end to void the tickets and never heard from them again

Andy


Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Mysteryman on 27 October 2010, 16:13:54
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My neighbour has just popped round spitting feathers, waving a parking ticket in his hand. He got a PCN for not parking within the white lines of a designating parking bay. He was just over them at one side.
He had nipped to our local shops (if you google ' Wollaton, Bramcote Lane shops' on satellite view, and street view it will give you an idea of the layout).
The STARZI was on a moped ticketing every car that was just over, or on the lines deliniating the bays. >:( >:( >:(
Has anyone else heard of this restriction? The ticket stated that his car was under observation for 1 minute. >:( >:( >:(
I have emailed the council to contest this ticket on the grounds that no signs exist in the area to indicate that one must park within the parking bay. So we'll have to see what happens.
However in my opinion it is absolutely bloody stupid, and just another revenue making game at motorist expense
 


Was he thirsty then?
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: cleggy on 27 October 2010, 16:21:13
I think that's why he came round in the first place ;)
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 27 October 2010, 17:10:25
Yes it is common in these parts.  Park just outside the white lines of a parking bay and you will be done! :( :(
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Banjax on 27 October 2010, 17:12:41
so he's learned to park the car properly now?  ;D :y
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: BigAl on 27 October 2010, 17:25:31
He's lucky he didn't get arrested:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324211/Three-traffic-cops-called-parking-dispute-police-superintendent-constable-neighbour.html
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: mrgreen on 27 October 2010, 17:26:09
that's highway robbery but unfortunately it's also the law, we had a residential parking permit for a weekend which we didn't put the number plate on and got done for it being not valid surely when you pay 10 quid for the weekend it's for a parking place regardless od the car, unfortunately they didn't see it this way, i still miss that 40 quid plus the tenner for the permit!!
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 27 October 2010, 17:36:54
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He's lucky he didn't get arrested:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324211/Three-traffic-cops-called-parking-dispute-police-superintendent-constable-neighbour.html


Oh dear! ::) ::) ::)  (noting the news item is in the Online Mail, but.......)  This situation obviously should never have been taken so far, costing no doubt a lot of money, whilst tying up precious resource.  The CPS will no doubt review this case and reach the obvious conclusions that it was badly handled.

A prime case of an ex-senior copper thinking, and maybe having, undue power over serving police officers! ::) ::)
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: albitz on 27 October 2010, 20:31:44
Sorry but I have no sympathy. There arent many things more annoying than finally finding a parking space, only to realise that the person who is supposed to be parked in the next bay has partially parked in the one that you were about to park in, so you have to keep driving around wasting time and fuel looking for a bay that isnt blocked by someone who needs two parking bays for one car.
Its either an inability to drive - in which case they shouldnt be allowed to. or just pure selfishness - couldnt give a toss about anyone else, , cant be arsed to take the time and trouble tp park properly.
Cant imagine why anyone would need a sign which tells them that the purpose of the white lines on each side of the parking bay mean that they are supposed to park within the lines. :-/ ::)
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Mysteryman on 27 October 2010, 21:21:48
Off topic, a bit.
I went to asda at about eight o'clock this morning...massive car park, hardly any cars. Parked up, came out,  and some stupid rather bird had parked her car so close I could hardly open the drivers door. She was sitting in her car putting her make up on. The rest of the car park was clear! I gave her one of my looks, no reaction. I tapped on her window, she ignored me. I banged my car door into the side of her mini, she went mental. I told her to eff off, grinned and drove off.
I felt quite bad afterwards but the ignorant cow got right up my nose.
I'm half expecting a letter from her insurance as she had every opportunity to get my reg number.
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: cleggy on 27 October 2010, 21:45:39
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Sorry but I have no sympathy. There arent many things more annoying than finally finding a parking space, only to realise that the person who is supposed to be parked in the next bay has partially parked in the one that you were about to park in, so you have to keep driving around wasting time and fuel looking for a bay that isnt blocked by someone who needs two parking bays for one car.
Its either an inability to drive - in which case they shouldnt be allowed to. or just pure selfishness - couldnt give a toss about anyone else, , cant be arsed to take the time and trouble tp park properly.
Cant imagine why anyone would need a sign which tells them that the purpose of the white lines on each side of the parking bay mean that they are supposed to park within the lines. :-/ ::)

Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: albitz on 27 October 2010, 21:48:52
If the person in the next bay had parked badly and therefore prevented him from parking properly, he should appeal imo. :y
Hope he took some pics for evidence ? :-/
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 October 2010, 00:50:12
It's meant to be general advice for motorists now to keep a cheap n cheerful digital camera (or just use your cameraphone, of course) to get evidence for such 'crimes'. Same goes for poorly maintained double yeller lines etc.

this is up there with doing 34 in a 30, really isn't it? Chuffin stupid to get booked for it, but then again no, I shouldnt have been speeding, v sorry etc.... the rant, I mean debate goes on!!

Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 28 October 2010, 06:08:49
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He's lucky he didn't get arrested:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324211/Three-traffic-cops-called-parking-dispute-police-superintendent-constable-neighbour.html


Oh dear! ::) ::) ::)  (noting the news item is in the Online Mail, but.......)  This situation obviously should never have been taken so far, costing no doubt a lot of money, whilst tying up precious resource.  The CPS will no doubt review this case and reach the obvious conclusions that it was badly handled.

A prime case of an ex-senior copper thinking, and maybe having, undue power over serving police officers! ::) ::)


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reach the obvious conclusions that it was badly handled.




I more than agree Lizzie, the attending officers should have their arses kicked.
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: JesterRT on 28 October 2010, 12:40:21
Perhaps when the council paint the lines for their car park they could allow for the fact cars are getting bigger and bigger.  New Corsa's look the size of an old Astra.  New Fiesta is heading towards a Focus.  New Ka looks bigger than the old Fiestas.

I've got a problem with planning permission in that I want to be able to extend my house, but the council insist that if I end up with 4 bedrooms I must be able to park three cars off the road.  My drive will end up being long enough to put my S-Type and Corsa nose to tail and not stick out onto the pavement.  I'll have a garage as well, but I'm not allowed to count that because it's 6 inches too narrow, even though I'd easily be able to park the Corsa in it.  If I was looking at a new build and saw a 'garage' listed I'd expect to conned.
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Teebee on 28 October 2010, 12:54:10
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Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
The problem I see is who parked badly first your neighbour or the other guy and how does the warden tell? It's not that I don't sympathise but it rates as a pet hate, especially in Asda's car park, how is it I can put my mig dead centre between two lines yet the Corsa next to me is hugging or straddling the line.
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Teebee on 28 October 2010, 13:06:59
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He's lucky he didn't get arrested:- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1324211/Three-traffic-cops-called-parking-dispute-police-superintendent-constable-neighbour.html
I had a very similar experience with a neighbour many years back, he had 2 cars parked on the road and I came in late and parked as close as possible while not blocking his dropped kerb. Following morning I have a warning notice on my car from the council telling me I was blocking access and would get towed next time, turns out he was a local councillor and that about an inch of my bumper overlapped the the start of the drop.

The next weekend one of my friends brought over 2 taxed and MOT'd vans that he was selling and we parked them either side of his kerb using a straight edge to ensure we didn't overlap. Left them there for 2-3 weeks, he was obviously fuming when he saw me but knew he couldn't do a thing. Payback's a bitch  :y
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: cleggy on 28 October 2010, 14:02:06
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Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
The problem I see is who parked badly first your neighbour or the other guy and how does the warden tell? It's not that I don't sympathise but it rates as a pet hate, especially in Asda's car park, how is it I can put my mig dead centre between two lines yet the Corsa next to me is hugging or straddling the line.

The real problem is the Adolph, people were all parked, and going to local shops. OK some were slightly over the line or on the line, but not causing anyone any problems. No one was parked badly or in two bays, causing an obstruction etc. The bays in this area are very tight.
The only problem was the idiot in a uniform scooting round on a moped merrily slapping tickets on everone. I would have slapped him, we do not need this revenue making attitude from the council.
My pet hate is that being disabled I have a blue badge, and the number of people who use the disabled bays when not entitled to do so is unbelievable. The excuses are 'I will only be a minute', I am delivering', they don't half get indignant when I block them in ;D :y.
I need the extra space to open the drivers door fully, very much like parents with toddlers people seem to think they can just park in the reserved bays. A woman in Sainsburys car park this morning looked at me rather puzzled when I told her she had forgotten something...... YOUR CHILD  ;D ;D.
Rant over . :y
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: aaronjb on 28 October 2010, 14:10:01
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Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
The problem I see is who parked badly first your neighbour or the other guy and how does the warden tell? It's not that I don't sympathise but it rates as a pet hate, especially in Asda's car park, how is it I can put my mig dead centre between two lines yet the Corsa next to me is hugging or straddling the line.

That drives me nuts, too! Especially in our office car park which has tight spaces between concrete pillars.. the other day there was a Ford Ka taking up two spaces FFS!

And don't get me started on the guy who drives a big gold Cherokee who is usually either diagonally over two spaces (apparently reversing and straightening up is too much of a chore) or using a space and a half.. I swear I'm going to print a big sign that says "Learn to park!" and stick it on his windscreen.
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Omega_Dan on 28 October 2010, 14:22:15
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Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
The problem I see is who parked badly first your neighbour or the other guy and how does the warden tell? It's not that I don't sympathise but it rates as a pet hate, especially in Asda's car park, how is it I can put my mig dead centre between two lines yet the Corsa next to me is hugging or straddling the line.

That drives me nuts, too! Especially in our office car park which has tight spaces between concrete pillars.. the other day there was a Ford Ka taking up two spaces FFS!

And don't get me started on the guy who drives a big gold Cherokee who is usually either diagonally over two spaces (apparently reversing and straightening up is too much of a chore) or using a space and a half.. I swear I'm going to print a big sign that says "Learn to park!" and stick it on his windscreen.

Totally agree as our work car park is exactly the same. it aint difficult at the end of the day but so many make a pigs ear of it and we have no choice to park next to them as its bound to be the last space >:( >:(
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Psychoca on 28 October 2010, 14:25:16
Technically, if your door mirror passes over the white line, then you are in danger of being ticketed as you still restrict access to the bay beside...

I would have thought that if you display 2 tickets that you shouldn't get a ticket...
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Banjax on 28 October 2010, 14:28:14
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Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
The problem I see is who parked badly first your neighbour or the other guy and how does the warden tell? It's not that I don't sympathise but it rates as a pet hate, especially in Asda's car park, how is it I can put my mig dead centre between two lines yet the Corsa next to me is hugging or straddling the line.

The real problem is the Adolph, people were all parked, and going to local shops. OK some were slightly over the line or on the line, but not causing anyone any problems. No one was parked badly or in two bays, causing an obstruction etc. The bays in this area are very tight.
The only problem was the idiot in a uniform scooting round on a moped merrily slapping tickets on everone. I would have slapped him, we do not need this revenue making attitude from the council.
My pet hate is that being disabled I have a blue badge, and the number of people who use the disabled bays when not entitled to do so is unbelievable. The excuses are 'I will only be a minute', I am delivering', they don't half get indignant when I block them in ;D :y.
I need the extra space to open the drivers door fully, very much like parents with toddlers people seem to think they can just park in the reserved bays. A woman in Sainsburys car park this morning looked at me rather puzzled when I told her she had forgotten something...... YOUR CHILD  ;D ;D.
Rant over . :y


totally agree with you on the disabled spaces - and i'd never sit in one for even a second, but as for the "parent and child" spaces, If I'm popping into Tesco's after say, 9pm I'll use them  :y
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Omega_Dan on 28 October 2010, 14:28:31
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Technically, if your door mirror passes over the white line, then you are in danger of being ticketed as you still restrict access to the bay beside...


Its a joke if that is the case especially if you have parked smack bang in the middle. what more can you do except buy a peel P50 and even then someone will struggle to park it ;D
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Psychoca on 28 October 2010, 22:23:51
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Whilst I agree with you, my neighbour in this instance was parked in the outside bay nearest the road, and was slightly over the line marking the bay because
the person in the next bay was encroaching  into the bay he was parking in.
The point surely is that the wardens look for any minor infrigement to dish out penalty notices.
The problem I see is who parked badly first your neighbour or the other guy and how does the warden tell? It's not that I don't sympathise but it rates as a pet hate, especially in Asda's car park, how is it I can put my mig dead centre between two lines yet the Corsa next to me is hugging or straddling the line.

The real problem is the Adolph, people were all parked, and going to local shops. OK some were slightly over the line or on the line, but not causing anyone any problems. No one was parked badly or in two bays, causing an obstruction etc. The bays in this area are very tight.
The only problem was the idiot in a uniform scooting round on a moped merrily slapping tickets on everone. I would have slapped him, we do not need this revenue making attitude from the council.
My pet hate is that being disabled I have a blue badge, and the number of people who use the disabled bays when not entitled to do so is unbelievable. The excuses are 'I will only be a minute', I am delivering', they don't half get indignant when I block them in ;D :y.
I need the extra space to open the drivers door fully, very much like parents with toddlers people seem to think they can just park in the reserved bays. A woman in Sainsburys car park this morning looked at me rather puzzled when I told her she had forgotten something...... YOUR CHILD  ;D ;D.
Rant over . :y


totally agree with you on the disabled spaces - and i'd never sit in one for even a second, but as for the "parent and child" spaces, If I'm popping into Tesco's after say, 9pm I'll use them  :y


My pet hate is also the misuse of Disabled Bays, Tesco's have horrendous usage by Parent with Child using them... 

I'll put my flak jacket on now and say that IMO P&C bays should be in a safe position in the car park where there is minimum liklihood of danger to children, however, this doesn't mean right outside the shop, where mobility impared really do need to park...  I got a warning when I parked in a P&C bay displaying the Blue Badge as "They are for P&C, not disabled" despite them being full when I parked....
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: tidla on 28 October 2010, 22:59:16
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posted this piccy last week in case you missed it. :D
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 October 2010, 23:33:11
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Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 October 2010, 23:35:53
 :D :D :D :D ;D ;) :) ;D
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 29 October 2010, 14:07:10
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(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b460/tapper888/211010piccys017.jpg)

posted this piccy last week in case you missed it. :D


But why shouldn't a woman, with two young children in the back, drive a good sports car and park it in 'toddler' spaces? ::) ::)

 :D :D :D :D  ;)
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: albitz on 29 October 2010, 17:56:26
It doesnt have any rear seats. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Parking Starzi
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 29 October 2010, 17:58:17
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It doesnt have any rear seats. ;) ;D


Ah right Albs! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)