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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: pembsomega on 07 May 2007, 22:56:06
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these are the three things that wind me up the most while driving, whats everyone else's??
1. people that think you are to close behind and slam on their brake, its one of the most dangerous things that happens
2. when your following someone for mile after mile at a constant 45mph wether it a b road or though a 30mph area they stay at 45mph, and then when you have an oppoutunity to pass then beep and flash and have a fit cos you have overtaken them.
3. same as above but try to hold you off. idiots
number 2 is normally a flat cap in a rover, and 3 tends to be someone in a corsa or a ford ka that seems to have takes its bumpers from some sort of spaceship.
we really should have more traffic cops to sort these idiots out. thats my only reason agaisnt cameras, they dont catch the numpties that are not speeding but are causing just as much trouble. thanks
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not a lot winds me up, i am pretty laid back.
the only time i get stressed is when people are driving in such as way it places me or others in danger, as far as i am concerned then need to be re-educated as to the error of their ways, i find a slap sometimes works
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Number four on your list should be middle or outside lane hoggers on an empty carriageway.
'Are you overtaking? I don't think so... PULL OVER!!!' >:(
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1. people that think you are to close behind and slam on their brake, its one of the most dangerous things that happens
Maybe, that if this happens to you often, you need to review your following distances.
Your definition of a safe distance may not be the same as what someone else finds comfortable.
I have driven over hundreds of thousands of miles, across England, Scotland, Wales, and Europe, and I have NEVER had this happen to me, EVER. The reason? I always leave a v large gap between me and the car in front (much more than a few seconds).
When I'm holding back like this, I see all the cars in the distance sat bumper to bumper, doing 70mph. If the front one were to brake hard, then they would all be like dominos. whereas I would stop at leisure.
When holding this far back, and looking at them all driving so close - to quote yourself... THEY are the "idiots"
You may say my following distances are excessive, but, I'm never at risk of rear ending anything, I know for sure I'm never making anyone uncomfortable (I'm not the type to want to do that)... and... oh look... I got somewhere 30 seconds slower than the tailgaiters in front... big deal!
I COMPLETELY agree, some people's dawdling habits are a danger and people who are so stupidly slow are a liability...
However, the people dawdling compared to the people tailgaiting is extremely low
The one thing traffic cops need to focus on the most is tailgaiting.
It's by far the most dangerous, and most selfish activity that happens all the time on todays roads.
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1. people that think you are to close behind and slam on their brake, its one of the most dangerous things that happens
Maybe, that if this happens to you often, you need to review your following distances.
Your definition of a safe distance may not be the same as what someone else finds comfortable.
I have driven over hundreds of thousands of miles, across England, Scotland, Wales, and Europe, and I have NEVER had this happen to me, EVER. The reason? I always leave a v large gap between me and the car in front (much more than a few seconds).
When I'm holding back like this, I see all the cars in the distance sat bumper to bumper, doing 70mph. If the front one were to brake hard, then they would all be like dominos. whereas I would stop at leisure.
When holding this far back, and looking at them all driving so close - to quote yourself... THEY are the "idiots"
You may say my following distances are excessive, but, I'm never at risk of rear ending anything, I know for sure I'm never making anyone uncomfortable (I'm not the type to want to do that)... and... oh look... I got somewhere 30 seconds slower than the tailgaiters in front... big deal!
I COMPLETELY agree, some people's dawdling habits are a danger and people who are so stupidly slow are a liability...
However, the people dawdling compared to the people tailgaiting is extremely low
The one thing traffic cops need to focus on the most is tailgaiting.
It's by far the most dangerous, and most selfish activity that happens all the time on todays roads.
You beat me to it James. My number 1 pet hate is drivers overtaking on the motorway and slicing off my front end to fit in the large gap I have left in front. Forcing me to switch into the next lane to keep a safe distance ahead. I've never hit anyone from behind - but it has happened to me TWICE. :(
I saw a woman on Friday plucking her eyebrows with tweezers whilst waiting at a junction to pull out, as the guy in front of me was texting on his mobile phone >:( I think I'm gonna start wearing a high viz jacket ;)
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If someone drives too close to me, I slow down even more.
This is not to piss them off, or try and "teach them a lesson"
Not by any means.
It is an attempt to minimise the severity of any impact, should the tailgaiting tit ram me up the backside.
If they pull back... I speed up.
I'm not prepared to put myself and my passengers at unncessary risk, especially with children in the car.
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People should just chill.
So what if someone is doing 45 on an A road. Allbeit annoying, they are not breaking the law.
But if you get up close and try and push them on, then you are driving dangerously and aggressively, or at least without due care and attention.
Just take a deep breath, wait for a safe chance, and overtake.
With regards to the light flashing, this has never happened to me, when overtaking anyone. Probably because I always pull out before I get too close (I don't adopt the "overtaking") position taught in Roadcraft... if I needed to use that technique, I would wait for a better chance to overtake in 100% safety.. and I pull back in, only when I am well past the car I'm overtaking.. (Because in my initial judgement, the overtaking opportunity allows time for this)
Drivers will flash lights usually because their "space" has been encrouched on.. and... rightly so. The intended purpose of "flashing lights" is to "alert other drivers of their presense"
So, maybe if you are cutting in too close to them - they feel the need to alert you to the fact that they are there, and you are in their space.
A google search on Defensive driving, returns good results..
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The bottom line is that everyone has a different driving style and all of us strongly believe that we drive in the best way. Ideally what we all need is to learn and respec each other on the road and most of all forgive other peoples mistakes.
I'm fed up of idiots that prefer to cause an accident just because they have priority or because they follow the rules while being politically correct on the road and ignore everyone else. We need to understand that we are not machines where you programm a set of rules and we all run as we supposed to, we are human beings with individual behaviours and characters and we need to respect one another on the road.
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The bottom line is that everyone has a different driving style and all of us strongly believe that we drive in the best way. Ideally what we all need is to learn and respec each other on the road and most of all forgive other peoples mistakes.
I'm fed up of idiots that prefer to cause an accident just because they have priority or because they follow the rules while being politically correct on the road and ignore everyone else. We need to understand that we are not machines where you programm a set of rules and we all run as we supposed to, we are human beings with individual behaviours and characters and we need to respect one another on the road.
I couldn't agree more to this
One question though, does accepting someone elses driving style mean you should A) let them sit an inch from your bumper... or b) Pull over when safe and let them pass ;)
It's very important to make allowances for other people. And it's often unimportant who is right or wrong
Some people should just not be on the road though. This morning driving to work on the A436, went around a blind bend, thankfully at a sensible speed... and a white Pug 307 was on my side of the road, trying to overtake a lorry. It was a VERY near miss, and would have been messy (head-on at 60mph for me and probs the same for him)
Driving styles aside, there was no need for him to have even begun overtaking, because there was NOT enough visibility for him to do so.
My blood boils in these situations, especially when kids are being transported.
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If someone drives too close to me, I slow down even more.
This is not to piss them off, or try and "teach them a lesson"
Not by any means.
It is an attempt to minimise the severity of any impact, should the tailgaiting tit ram me up the backside.
If they pull back... I speed up.
I'm not prepared to put myself and my passengers at unncessary risk, especially with children in the car.
Yes it is. In my case. :)
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If someone drives too close to me, I slow down even more.
This is not to piss them off, or try and "teach them a lesson"
Not by any means.
It is an attempt to minimise the severity of any impact, should the tailgaiting tit ram me up the backside.
If they pull back... I speed up.
I'm not prepared to put myself and my passengers at unncessary risk, especially with children in the car.
Yes it is. In my case. :)
You Hooligan ;D
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So what if someone is doing 45 on an A road. Allbeit annoying, they are not breaking the law.
I think the point being made was they do 40-45 on the national speed limited A road, BUT when they get to a 30 limit they still do the same 40-45.
The last 5-7 mile to my parent is A road that has a couple of 30 limits and some fairly tight bends, the number of people who plod along at 40, then do the same speed through the 30 limit realy realy annoys me!
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So what if someone is doing 45 on an A road. Allbeit annoying, they are not breaking the law.
I think the point being made was they do 40-45 on the national speed limited A road, BUT when they get to a 30 limit they still do the same 40-45.
The last 5-7 mile to my parent is A road that has a couple of 30 limits and some fairly tight bends, the number of people who plod along at 40, then do the same speed through the 30 limit realy realy annoys me!
I have upset people over this - also you ovetake them then they tailgate you in villages
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Number 1 is not dangerous at all.
The only dangerous thing there is driving TOO CLOSE in the first place.
If you have left sufficient stopping distance this cannot happen.
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Wagon driver that have never heard of mirror, signal, manoeuvre >:(
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My biggest hate is people following too close. The normal following distance seems to be about 1 1/2 car lengths these days. Yes, there might be some self-righteous guy up in front who drives at 45 mph in a 60 limit but leaving insufficient space between vehicles won't get you there any quicker.
If people follow me too close I immediately double the distance between me and the car in front because I've now got to consider the idiot behind before I stop.
Following too close also makes it extremely hazardous to overtake because there is nowhere to go if you have to pull back in. It's a vicious circle that leads to increased frustration.
Second on the list is probably poor lane discipline on Motorways.
Third is lorries who "snail race" on dual carriageways. I don't care if one lorry is doing 0.01 MPH more than the other. It's hardly going to make a big difference to his journey time if he has to back off occasionally. If there is a queue of cars behind them who can comfortably cruise 10-20 MPH or more faster then it's inconsiderate to hold them up.
Kevin
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Third is lorries who "snail race" on dual carriageways....... If there is a queue of cars behind them who can comfortably cruise 10-20 MPH or more faster then it's inconsiderate to hold them up.
Kevin
Ahh! but might has right!! >:( Go east on the M62 in to Yorkshire, there are 4 lanes going up the long incline and the HGV's use 3 of the 4 lanes with as you say 1/2 mph between 'em all. That obviously leaves just the outside lane for the rest of us mere mortals >:( >:(
Just wait till I get my caravan on the road and that can be added to the list of pet hates!! ;) ;D ;D
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My biggest hate is people following too close. The normal following distance seems to be about 1 1/2 car lengths these days. Yes, there might be some self-righteous guy up in front who drives at 45 mph in a 60 limit but leaving insufficient space between vehicles won't get you there any quicker.
If people follow me too close I immediately double the distance between me and the car in front because I've now got to consider the idiot behind before I stop.
Following too close also makes it extremely hazardous to overtake because there is nowhere to go if you have to pull back in. It's a vicious circle that leads to increased frustration.
Second on the list is probably poor lane discipline on Motorways.
Third is lorries who "snail race" on dual carriageways. I don't care if one lorry is doing 0.01 MPH more than the other. It's hardly going to make a big difference to his journey time if he has to back off occasionally. If there is a queue of cars behind them who can comfortably cruise 10-20 MPH or more faster then it's inconsiderate to hold them up.
Kevin
Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
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Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
In my opinion their speed limiters should be updated to talk to each other so that as they come close to each other it adjusts out any differences in the limited speed. Then there'd be no need to overtake except when one is unable to maintain the limited speed up an incline, in which case the speed difference will be greater anyway.
Problem is, for every courteous lorry driver there are half a dozen (usually foreign) ones who really don't give a damn when driving on our roads.
Kevin
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In my opinion their speed limiters should be updated to talk to each other so that as they come close to each other it adjusts out any differences in the limited speed. ......
Back on the M62 ::) .... but in the opposite direction ..... speed limiters don't make any difference when they have gravity on their side & they're coasting! >:( It's worrying to say the least when you can't get into lane 3 and you've got 40 tonnes sat about 6' off your back bumper in the middel lane! :(
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Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
As in some countries in continental europe! We don't have any politicians with enough balls to introduce it here.
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speed limiters don't make any difference when they have gravity on their side & they're coasting!
They might do if they were hooked up to their retarders too!
Kevin
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They might do if they were hooked up to their retarders too!
Kevin
Better still if it was linked up to between their legs! :o :y
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On a section of the A1 in County Durham the Highways Agency are trialling an HGV ban in lane 2 to see if it cuts down congestion at peak periods. HGVs are confined to the inside lane (it is only 2 lane) between 7am and 7pm. Not sure how well it is working yet, or if any HGV drivers are taking notice of it.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/newsroom.aspx?newsid=18105011
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My current pet hate is when you've spent almost an hour or more on cruise doing the national limit and are busy overtaking (having first checked that there's a sufficiently BIG and safe gap) only to find someone attempting to break the landspeed record, in usually the most inappropriate vehicle (like a 4x4, or these pickups that seem to be increasingly popular), charges up behind you flashing, honking, waving their arms (often both, just make sure they're well and truly out of control of their vehicle).
I can understand, to some degree, people getting a bit miffed with people sitting in the outside lane and doing less than the national limit when they really have no need to be there - ie they're not overtaking! But to almost ram you off the road because they apparently didn't understand that 70 means 70, not 100+ mph seems just crazy.
That and speeding in roadworks. I still don't get that. Even if the roadworks appear deserted - 40mph (or whatever they've set it to) means 40mph. God help the poor guy who just gets wiped out doing their job. Wonder if they get danger money!?
I drove in Germany for a year, and they seemed to have a different attitude. Their roadworks were really short sections (so no going for miles before you actually see men doing work, and you were free to retrun to normal speed just after the works) but everyone seemed to respect the fact they were working there, and doing what was a pretty damn hazardous job.
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come on then, no one has mentioned CARAVANS, I pull a caravan, as i am sure a lot of you do, whats your opinions on these, are there many Jeremy Clarksons out there???????
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i dont mind caravans, i dont often see them actually causing much trouble
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come on then, no one has mentioned CARAVANS, I pull a caravan, as i am sure a lot of you do, whats your opinions on these, are there many Jeremy Clarksons out there???????
;D ;D
I thought I had! ;)
I'm picking my 'new' 'van up a week on Friday. It always amuses me the people who HAVE to get passed you no matter what - even if they are then going to travel slower than you were in the first place >:(
A 'van on the back of a 3.0 Omega isn't slow ;) :y
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Or the prat that has to pull out in front of you at a junction just to beat "The Caravan"
;D ;D come on then, no one has mentioned CARAVANS, I pull a caravan, as i am sure a lot of you do, whats your opinions on these, are there many Jeremy Clarksons out there???????
;D ;D
I thought I had! ;)
I'm picking my 'new' 'van up a week on Friday. It always amuses me the people who HAVE to get passed you no matter what - even if they are then going to travel slower than you were in the first place >:(
A 'van on the back of a 3.0 Omega isn't slow ;) :y
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I flippin hate caravans. Cannot see the fascination. If you're going camping, go camping. If you want comfort, get a cottage.
The idea of being cramped up in a tiny box on wheels doesn't float my boat, and they shouldn't be allowed on roads at busy periods.
And yes, I have tried it. Pointless.
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Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
Even when they come across the motorist who is happy trundling along at 50? Why should HGVs be banned to sit behind them?
On a section of the A1 in County Durham the Highways Agency are trialling an HGV ban in lane 2 to see if it cuts down congestion at peak periods. HGVs are confined to the inside lane (it is only 2 lane) between 7am and 7pm. Not sure how well it is working yet, or if any HGV drivers are taking notice of it.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/newsroom.aspx?newsid=18105011
They've been trialing the same thing on the A42 for some time now. But I never travel it enough to know if it made a difference.
Another reaction to overtaking I don't understand is people accelerating as you're going past? I came across this twice this bank holiday where I'm at a constant speed (cruise control set) and the car I'm overtaking accelerates to seeming stop me. I mean, why?? :-?
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I flippin hate caravans. Cannot see the fascination. If you're going camping, go camping. If you want comfort, get a cottage.
The idea of being cramped up in a tiny box on wheels doesn't float my boat, and they shouldn't be allowed on roads at busy periods.
And yes, I have tried it. Pointless.
Don't go beating around the bush TB. Come straight out with it and say what you really feel.... ;) ;D
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Why shouldnt they be allowed on road at busy times, a survey was done on the M5 south bound near the weston super mare area, it was said that caravans were causing the delays on peak holiday periods, this was carried out for over 2 months, caravans were restricted to the inside lane only, this was done and the results were that even more jams were caused as all caravans were in the inside lane along with the HGVs, the tail backs were unreal, needless to say the restriction was lifted as caravans could not overtake the HGVs.
Its everyone to there own, I dont relish the thought of sitting in a tin can for hours on end flying over some ocean with screaming youngsters.
;D ;D ;D I flippin hate caravans. Cannot see the fascination. If you're going camping, go camping. If you want comfort, get a cottage.
The idea of being cramped up in a tiny box on wheels doesn't float my boat, and they shouldn't be allowed on roads at busy periods.
And yes, I have tried it. Pointless.
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Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
Even when they come across the motorist who is happy trundling along at 50? Why should HGVs be banned to sit behind them?
On a section of the A1 in County Durham the Highways Agency are trialling an HGV ban in lane 2 to see if it cuts down congestion at peak periods. HGVs are confined to the inside lane (it is only 2 lane) between 7am and 7pm. Not sure how well it is working yet, or if any HGV drivers are taking notice of it.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/newsroom.aspx?newsid=18105011
They've been trialing the same thing on the A42 for some time now. But I never travel it enough to know if it made a difference.
Another reaction to overtaking I don't understand is people accelerating as you're going past? I came across this twice this bank holiday where I'm at a constant speed (cruise control set) and the car I'm overtaking accelerates to seeming stop me. I mean, why?? :-?
this was my point three??? why do some peopel speed up when you go to pass them?? it really is pointless. esppecailly against an meega lol
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Why shouldnt they be allowed on road at busy times, a survey was done on the M5 south bound near the weston super mare area, it was said that caravans were causing the delays on peak holiday periods, this was carried out for over 2 months, caravans were restricted to the inside lane only, this was done and the results were that even more jams were caused as all caravans were in the inside lane along with the HGVs, the tail backs were unreal, needless to say the restriction was lifted as caravans could not overtake the HGVs.
Its everyone to there own, I dont relish the thought of sitting in a tin can for hours on end flying over some ocean with screaming youngsters.
;D ;D ;D I flippin hate caravans. Cannot see the fascination. If you're going camping, go camping. If you want comfort, get a cottage.
The idea of being cramped up in a tiny box on wheels doesn't float my boat, and they shouldn't be allowed on roads at busy periods.
And yes, I have tried it. Pointless.
Blooming caravans >:(.
There's me, trying to test the cooling capacity of my poorly tractor this bank holiday, trouble is, every burger van owner (aka caravan) wanted to be around truckfest and silverstone, purely to hinder me >:(
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Got to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
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Got to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
I should add, I am taking proper camping stuff, ie a tent. It all goes in boot, is set up as quick, and is probably bigger. And best of all, I won't be holding up traffic. Unless I take the tractor ::)
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Hate to say this but I am off to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, hope i am in front of you, look out for the shiney miggy and take plenty of heaters to keep your bedding dry
;D ;D :yGot to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
I should add, I am taking proper camping stuff, ie a tent. It all goes in boot, is set up as quick, and is probably bigger. And best of all, I won't be holding up traffic. Unless I take the tractor ::)
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I will think of you when I turn on my heating and hot running water
;D ;DHate to say this but I am off to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, hope i am in front of you, look out for the shiney miggy and take plenty of heaters to keep your bedding dry
;D ;D :yGot to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
I should add, I am taking proper camping stuff, ie a tent. It all goes in boot, is set up as quick, and is probably bigger. And best of all, I won't be holding up traffic. Unless I take the tractor ::)
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Hate to say this but I am off to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, hope i am in front of you, look out for the shiney miggy and take plenty of heaters to keep your bedding dry
;D ;D :yGot to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
I should add, I am taking proper camping stuff, ie a tent. It all goes in boot, is set up as quick, and is probably bigger. And best of all, I won't be holding up traffic. Unless I take the tractor ::)
Out of spite, I shall take the tractor and get in front of you ;D
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Have a good holiday mate :y :y
Hate to say this but I am off to Cornwall in a couple of weeks, hope i am in front of you, look out for the shiney miggy and take plenty of heaters to keep your bedding dry
;D ;D :yGot to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
I should add, I am taking proper camping stuff, ie a tent. It all goes in boot, is set up as quick, and is probably bigger. And best of all, I won't be holding up traffic. Unless I take the tractor ::)
Out of spite, I shall take the tractor and get in front of you ;D
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I will think of you when I turn on my heating and hot running water
We have plenting of heat ;)
We we used to go camping when we were little, we had running water in our trailer tent, hot and cold. Trouble is, it was always my job to fill up the water drum... :(
Don't bother with running water now, just a 10l can.
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Have a good holiday mate :y :y
Its only a long weekend, we do it twice a year.
So this weekend is Lille with a few guys from work (including the chap you looks after the Linux server this place runs on when I'm not about ::)). Next weekend is Cornwall. The following 2 weekends are Cyprus, then its the England v Scotland meet......
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this was my point three??? why do some peopel speed up when you go to pass them?? it really is pointless. esppecailly against an meega lol
Err.. yeah, :-[ I realise that I was just refreshing the point... honest. ::)
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Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
Even when they come across the motorist who is happy trundling along at 50? Why should HGVs be banned to sit behind them?
On a section of the A1 in County Durham the Highways Agency are trialling an HGV ban in lane 2 to see if it cuts down congestion at peak periods. HGVs are confined to the inside lane (it is only 2 lane) between 7am and 7pm. Not sure how well it is working yet, or if any HGV drivers are taking notice of it.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/newsroom.aspx?newsid=18105011
They've been trialing the same thing on the A42 for some time now. But I never travel it enough to know if it made a difference.
Another reaction to overtaking I don't understand is people accelerating as you're going past? I came across this twice this bank holiday where I'm at a constant speed (cruise control set) and the car I'm overtaking accelerates to seeming stop me. I mean, why?? :-?
On the rare occasion you come across a car doing 50 it would be a pain I admit, but how many times do you come across a LGV overtaking another LGV and it takes miles for them to overtake. That happens hundreds of times a day.
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Thats why I think wagons should be banned to the inside lane
Even when they come across the motorist who is happy trundling along at 50? Why should HGVs be banned to sit behind them?
On a section of the A1 in County Durham the Highways Agency are trialling an HGV ban in lane 2 to see if it cuts down congestion at peak periods. HGVs are confined to the inside lane (it is only 2 lane) between 7am and 7pm. Not sure how well it is working yet, or if any HGV drivers are taking notice of it.
http://www.highways.gov.uk/news/newsroom.aspx?newsid=18105011
They've been trialing the same thing on the A42 for some time now. But I never travel it enough to know if it made a difference.
Another reaction to overtaking I don't understand is people accelerating as you're going past? I came across this twice this bank holiday where I'm at a constant speed (cruise control set) and the car I'm overtaking accelerates to seeming stop me. I mean, why?? :-?
On the rare occasion you come across a car doing 50 it would be a pain I admit, but how many times do you come across a LGV overtaking another LGV and it takes miles for them to overtake. That happens hundreds of times a day.
As do motorists and caravanners around here on the dual carriageway >:(
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I was following a mate of mine in the Westie this weekend. He has a motorhome, which is what you drive when all your cars have become too silly to drive on the road and you have to ferry them from one race meet to another.
Anyway, started to go round a bend on the sliproad between the M42 and M40 and a shedload of water poured out of the bottom of his motor home and hit me straight in the face.
First words to him when we pulled up?
"Please tell me that bit of pipe is NOT the overflow from your chemical loo!"
It wasn't, thankfully.
Kevin
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On the rare occasion you come across a car doing 50 it would be a pain I admit, but how many times do you come across a LGV overtaking another LGV and it takes miles for them to overtake. That happens hundreds of times a day.
What's wrong with that? You can use the opportunity to sit in the slipstream and save fuel ;)
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come on then, no one has mentioned CARAVANS, I pull a caravan, as i am sure a lot of you do, whats your opinions on these, are there many Jeremy Clarksons out there???????
;D ;D
I thought I had! ;)
I'm picking my 'new' 'van up a week on Friday. It always amuses me the people who HAVE to get passed you no matter what - even if they are then going to travel slower than you were in the first place >:(
A 'van on the back of a 3.0 Omega isn't slow ;) :y
Even a 2.0 is OK, the 2.6 is great!
They will try anything - even going 20 mph over the limit flat in an Escrap out just to get past the caravan - then they slow down and hold you up, I knew I should have gone faster!
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Why shouldnt they be allowed on road at busy times, a survey was done on the M5 south bound near the weston super mare area, it was said that caravans were causing the delays on peak holiday periods, this was carried out for over 2 months, caravans were restricted to the inside lane only, this was done and the results were that even more jams were caused as all caravans were in the inside lane along with the HGVs, the tail backs were unreal, needless to say the restriction was lifted as caravans could not overtake the HGVs.
Its everyone to there own, I dont relish the thought of sitting in a tin can for hours on end flying over some ocean with screaming youngsters.
;D ;D ;D I flippin hate caravans. Cannot see the fascination. If you're going camping, go camping. If you want comfort, get a cottage.
The idea of being cramped up in a tiny box on wheels doesn't float my boat, and they shouldn't be allowed on roads at busy periods.
And yes, I have tried it. Pointless.
I ingored the trial, as I was on the M5 I could not get into the packed standstill inside lane (Almondsbury forces into middle lane from then on forget inside lane until the top of the hill)
So did the Omega with big trailer in front of me ;D ;D
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Why shouldnt they be allowed on road at busy times, a survey was done on the M5 south bound near the weston super mare area, it was said that caravans were causing the delays on peak holiday periods, this was carried out for over 2 months, caravans were restricted to the inside lane only, this was done and the results were that even more jams were caused as all caravans were in the inside lane along with the HGVs, the tail backs were unreal, needless to say the restriction was lifted as caravans could not overtake the HGVs.
Its everyone to there own, I dont relish the thought of sitting in a tin can for hours on end flying over some ocean with screaming youngsters.
;D ;D ;D I flippin hate caravans. Cannot see the fascination. If you're going camping, go camping. If you want comfort, get a cottage.
The idea of being cramped up in a tiny box on wheels doesn't float my boat, and they shouldn't be allowed on roads at busy periods.
And yes, I have tried it. Pointless.
Blooming caravans >:(.
There's me, trying to test the cooling capacity of my poorly tractor this bank holiday, trouble is, every burger van owner (aka caravan) wanted to be around truckfest and silverstone, purely to hinder me >:(
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Got to go to Cornwall in less than 2 weeks. Gonna be stuck behind the swaying stupid things all the flippin way. Can't see round them as they are too flippin wide, too long to overtake safely except in rare locations, and stuck at 30mph >:(. Oh joy.
Look out for a Bailey Discovery 400 with Silver Omega not holding anyone up :y
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Look out for a Bailey Discovery 400 with Silver Omega not holding anyone up :y
Watch out for a silver MV6 either overtaking you, or ramming you if you won't pull over and let the convoy by ;)
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Not to hijack this thread but I'm a kind caravanner. I only go out once or twice a year :y I do pull over if I see a snake building up behind me :y Why :-? Because it's safer that either driving too fast just to please the cars behind or worse, pissing some idiot off so much he tries to overtake - what is essentially a 35ft vehicle, and then proceeds to chop off my nose when he sees oncomming traffic. >:(
Why is everyone always in a rush ( except tractor drivers and the elderly of course) :P
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Look out for a Bailey Discovery 400 with Silver Omega not holding anyone up :y
Watch out for a silver MV6 either overtaking you, or ramming you if you won't pull over and let the convoy by ;)
Depends on how fast you are going ;D, you would get me on a long down hill where you go carefully, especially approaching Fraddon - that hill is scarey!
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Look out for a Bailey Discovery 400 with Silver Omega not holding anyone up :y
Watch out for a silver MV6 either overtaking you, or ramming you if you won't pull over and let the convoy by ;)
Depends on how fast you are going ;D, you would get me on a long down hill where you go carefully, especially approaching Fraddon - that hill is scarey!
I think I could outrun you and your van anywhere ;)
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Look out for a Bailey Discovery 400 with Silver Omega not holding anyone up :y
Watch out for a silver MV6 either overtaking you, or ramming you if you won't pull over and let the convoy by ;)
Depends on how fast you are going ;D, you would get me on a long down hill where you go carefully, especially approaching Fraddon - that hill is scarey!
I think I could outrun you and your van anywhere ;)
Come to that, the Rover would outrun your rig....
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Why is everyone always in a rush ( except tractor drivers and the elderly of course) :P
Dunno, but what I DO know is that most people will accept standing in a supermarket checkout queue for several minutes without a word, but put that same person behind the wheel of a car and a ten-second delay will cause them to give a long blast on their horn. I live on a school-run road and the horn blasters can be activated after just a five-second delay. Gets on my t*ts! >:(
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even the checkout queue can be avoided by charging towards the till with a huge pack of toilet rolls and a red face of panic!
however this only works in smaller supermarkets without customer toilets
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even the checkout queue can be avoided by charging towards the till with a huge pack of toilet rolls and a red face of panic!
however this only works in smaller supermarkets without customer toilets
;D ;D ;D
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On the rare occasion you come across a car doing 50 it would be a pain I admit, but how many times do you come across a LGV overtaking another LGV and it takes miles for them to overtake. That happens hundreds of times a day.
What's wrong with that? You can use the opportunity to sit in the slipstream and save fuel ;)
Thats tailgating and aparently it would seem thats a crime equal to manslaughter ::)
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My pet hate is tailgating through a 30. Whether is be a lorry or another car, I hate it when they are so close can't see their bonnet.
I refuse to be pushed into going faster (speed limits are there for a reason). However, when the GLF sign appears, the 3.0 v6 leaves them for dead until the next 30 of course when they catch up and follow me again.
Gwilym
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On the rare occasion you come across a car doing 50 it would be a pain I admit, but how many times do you come across a LGV overtaking another LGV and it takes miles for them to overtake. That happens hundreds of times a day.
What's wrong with that? You can use the opportunity to sit in the slipstream and save fuel ;)
Thats tailgating and aparently it would seem thats a crime equal to manslaughter ::)
I was wondering who'd pick up on that first! ;D