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Title: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Nickbat on 30 October 2010, 23:30:58
I watched, by accident rather than design, an episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures, a children's sci-fi series on CBBC (my daughter was watching).

I thought I'd misheard something, but tonight checked the online episode.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vmvyh

At around 15:50, this young chap says (switch on subtitles, if you like):

"So we had to hike to Buenos Aires and get a boat to Las Malvinas and a cargo plane across the Atlantic."

Las Malvinas? Is that what we call the Falklands these days. The BBC lives in a world of its own.

Perhaps it's just me...

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Vamps on 30 October 2010, 23:50:09
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I watched, by accident rather than design, an episode of The Sarah Jane Adventures, a children's sci-fi series on CBBC (my daughter was watching).

I thought I'd misheard something, but tonight checked the online episode.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vmvyh

At around 15:50, this young chap says (switch on subtitles, if you like):

"So we had to hike to Buenos Aires and get a boat to Las Malvinas and a cargo plane across the Atlantic."

Las Malvinas? Is that what we call the Falklands these days. The BBC lives in a world of its own.

Perhaps it's just me...

 ::) ::)

On this I think so, this is a brilliant kids programme don't read too much into it, it is. after all a tv programme as miss Vamps reminds me... ::) ::)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Nickbat on 30 October 2010, 23:52:39
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On this I think so, this is a brilliant kids programme don't read too much into it, it is. after all a tv programme as miss Vamps reminds me... ::) ::)

Fair comment. :y

Both my kids love it. As the thread title suggests, maybe I am too alert for instances of BBC bias. ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Baron Von Spongebob on 30 October 2010, 23:56:25
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On this I think so, this is a brilliant kids programme don't read too much into it, it is. after all a tv programme as miss Vamps reminds me... ::) ::)

Fair comment. :y

Both my kids love it. As the thread title suggests, maybe I am too alert for instances of BBC bias. ;)

Be alert Nickbat..
Britain needs Lerts   :D :D :D
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Nickbat on 31 October 2010, 00:07:10
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On this I think so, this is a brilliant kids programme don't read too much into it, it is. after all a tv programme as miss Vamps reminds me... ::) ::)

Fair comment. :y

Both my kids love it. As the thread title suggests, maybe I am too alert for instances of BBC bias. ;)

Be alert Nickbat..
Britain needs Lerts   :D :D :D

Lerts? As in Learned, Erotic, Righteous, Teenage Souls?

Yep, that's nearly me! Give or take one or two descriptions (nos 2 & 4). ;) ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: MaxV6 on 31 October 2010, 00:42:50
here's a small hint.



IT'S NOT REAL



and in the parallel un iverse in which it IS REAL....  , maybe Argentina won???
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Nickbat on 31 October 2010, 00:44:56
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here's a small hint.



IT'S NOT REAL



and in the parallel un iverse in which it IS REAL....  , maybe Argentina won???

I figured that one, but the screenwriter IS real.  ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: MaxV6 on 31 October 2010, 00:56:33
yes, but the program is fiction, and the entire doctor who "history" although written in our universe and time line, does not actually identically parallel it...


this means that it's entirely valid to change things like the Falklands to the Malvinas,  as it is not referring to our commonly accepted reality and history, but to and ENTIRELY fictional one...


thus, details like this,  to the scifi nut...  set some ground work, go towards demonstrating to the eagle eared geek, how much "depth" there is in the fabricated "alternate reality" that the entire Dr Who franchise "inhabits"

Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Banjax on 31 October 2010, 08:20:46
while you're writing furiously to the Beeb in green ink, Nick, could you also mention to them that what they call "The North" is actually "The Middle"  ;D ;D

thanks.  :y
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Debs. on 31 October 2010, 08:37:54
Aside from people whom live/work there, the military, some oil prospecting companies and veterans of the Falkland War: I doubt if the islands have much relevance for kids or the media types at the BBC. :'(

It`s a national trait with we British, we have periods of inexplicable frenzied obsession, the media feed it with constant hype, politicians aggrandise themselves, hobby-horses are mounted, principles have to be paid-for, lives are sacrificed, a movie planned, a public inquiry held and then.......memories fade and things move-on: "here`s Jim with the weather!" :-/

Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Mysteryman on 31 October 2010, 09:09:11
The BBC probably need to make money by flogging their programmes worldwide. As everyone hates us, it was probably a good move.
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Chris_H on 31 October 2010, 09:16:20
According to your reporting, I would suggest that a boat from Buenos Aires might well be labelled as going to Las Malvinas so it gives a local feel to the story.  It depends if the story writer is trying to involve the viewers.  How many young viewers would pick up on it is questionable.  Some might just get the atlas out and ask their parents where Las Malvinas is 'cos it's not marked - there could be a useful bit of learning there (but I'm stretching credibility too far I think!).

Probably too sensitive on this one occasion perhaps.   ;) :) ;D
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 October 2010, 09:46:13
I reckon it is context too.

As in that was what was on the ticket

Didn't see it though
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 October 2010, 09:55:14
Blimey Nick you may be getting as sensitive as me! :o :o :o :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: geoffr70 on 31 October 2010, 12:06:51
It's a bloody disgrace and an insult to the good people who defend our great nation.

It's like referring to Northern Ireland as Ireland.
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: albitz on 31 October 2010, 12:09:23
The writer had to decide wether he would refer to the islands as The Falklands or The Malvinas - why did he decide on Malvinas ? :-/
There are plenty of examples in recent times of "jesuit thinking" in our media. Particularily the Beeb. ;)
Incidentally - for those of you who dont believe in BBC left wing bias. The director general stated a couple of months ago that the Beeb has indeed had a left wing bias, for a long time. But he announced that it has now stopped. No doubt his apparent road to Damascus conversion was a stunt to try to prevent the new govt. from giving the Beeb a kicking.
Thankfully it doesnt seemed to have worked. :)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 31 October 2010, 12:57:19
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It's a bloody disgrace and an insult to the good people who defend our great nation.

It's like referring to Northern Ireland as Ireland.


Now that is a real issue still simmering in the background!! :P :P
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: albitz on 31 October 2010, 13:20:59
Most of the media these days seem to refer to anywhere on the Emerald Isle as Ireland. Not a minor oversight imo. It happens in too many places and too regularily for that. Its that old lefty stranglehold again imo. ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: albitz on 31 October 2010, 13:22:40
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It's a bloody disgrace and an insult to the good people who defend our great nation.

It's like referring to Northern Ireland as Ireland.


Now that is a real issue still simmering in the background!! :P :P
Appeasement didnt work in the 30,s - dont understand why they thought it would work in the 90,s. ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Banjax on 31 October 2010, 13:37:31
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Most of the media these days seem to refer to anywhere on the Emerald Isle as Ireland. Not a minor oversight imo. It happens in too many places and too regularily for that. Its that old lefty stranglehold again imo. ;)

you do realise you're quite mad Mr Albs  :)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 October 2010, 13:46:12
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On this I think so, this is a brilliant kids programme don't read too much into it, it is. after all a tv programme as miss Vamps reminds me... ::) ::)

Fair comment. :y

Both my kids love it. As the thread title suggests, maybe I am too alert for instances of BBC bias. ;)


Reasonably  balanced and objective I would say Nick....... :y :y :y ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 October 2010, 14:40:14
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It's a bloody disgrace and an insult to the good people who defend our great nation.

It's like referring to Northern Ireland as Ireland.


Now that is a real issue still simmering in the background!! :P :P
Appeasement didnt work in the 30,s - dont understand why they thought it would work in the 90,s. ;)


I quite agree A, appeasing Republican/'Loyalist' violence in Northern Ireland has merely stored up many problems for the future.

Likewise, appeasing fundamentalist groups here in Great Britain - in the name of enlightenment and understanding - is a mistake, the results of which will be manifest in the coming years.
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: albitz on 31 October 2010, 15:32:11
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On this I think so, this is a brilliant kids programme don't read too much into it, it is. after all a tv programme as miss Vamps reminds me... ::) ::)

Fair comment. :y

Both my kids love it. As the thread title suggests, maybe I am too alert for instances of BBC bias. ;)


Reasonably  balanced and objective I would say Nick....... :y :y :y ;)
But the Director general  of the BBC would disagree. ;)
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: albitz on 31 October 2010, 15:33:35
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Most of the media these days seem to refer to anywhere on the Emerald Isle as Ireland. Not a minor oversight imo. It happens in too many places and too regularily for that. Its that old lefty stranglehold again imo. ;)

you do realise you're quite mad Mr Albs  :)
The conventional idea of sanity scares me more than being mad does BJ. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Am I being too sensitive?
Post by: Banjax on 31 October 2010, 16:49:01
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Most of the media these days seem to refer to anywhere on the Emerald Isle as Ireland. Not a minor oversight imo. It happens in too many places and too regularily for that. Its that old lefty stranglehold again imo. ;)

you do realise you're quite mad Mr Albs  :)
The conventional idea of sanity scares me more than being mad does BJ. ;) ;D


thats the meds wearing off - normality will be re-established.....just as soon as we work out what normality is  :y