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Title: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Nickbat on 10 November 2010, 13:18:26
Nottinghamshire County Council spends more than £5million a year lighting the streets in its area. This is "five times more than in 2005 because of rising energy prices", we learn from The Daily Mail and others.

Since the Council is looking to save £150million over the next three years, it is looking hard at its lighting budget and has decided that some £1.25million a year can be saved from its street lighting bill. But it will achieve these savings by dimming lights along main roads. Furthermore, up to half of the lights in residential areas will be turned off between midnight and 5.30am. Those in rural areas will be turned off completely.


http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/11/lights-out.html

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Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 November 2010, 13:21:59
A very sensible idea in my eyes, the sooner its done the better.

A number of villages around here already have this
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 November 2010, 13:22:03
This is becoming quite a growing widespread policy, and I see no reason as to why they should not save power and money by adopting this practice ;) ;)
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Nickbat on 10 November 2010, 13:26:02
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A very sensible idea in my eyes, the sooner its done the better.

A number of villages around here already have this

Of course, it is always sensible to save money but the street lights were presumably put there for a purpose in the first place.  :-?
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 November 2010, 13:29:43
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A very sensible idea in my eyes, the sooner its done the better.

A number of villages around here already have this

Of course, it is always sensible to save money but the street lights were presumably put there for a purpose in the first place.  :-?


But times change and what was once thought acceptable is now considered an unnecessary expense that the ratepayers are no longer prepared to pay for ;)
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 November 2010, 13:35:42
I hate street lights - can't see the sky
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Tony H on 10 November 2010, 13:44:42
About twenty five years ago the lights used to be turned off at midnight were I live, then the policy changed to leaving them on all night. Although in principle I agree with the cost savings along with reduced fuel use etc the reservation I have with this idea is the possible increase in crime of many types and also anti social behaviour. The world is a very different place than it was tweny five years ago.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Nickbat on 10 November 2010, 13:45:36
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I hate street lights - can't see the sky

I agree that light pollution is an irritant, especially to those who like studying the night sky. Nevertheless, I would suggest that street lighting does help to reduce burglaries, assaults and traffic accidents, especially in  densely populated areas. Blacked-out villages are one thing, blacked-out towns are another.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Seth on 10 November 2010, 13:52:37
I'm concerned (as others have already stated), that this may lead to an increase in crime and anti-social behaviour.
That said, I'm supportive of 'good house-keeping' measures. :y
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Varche on 10 November 2010, 13:58:14
I'll pass on commenting about Nottingham to become a dim area! I used to live there many years ago. ;D

This is a classic bit of there is a crisis, cuts have to be made otherwise there will be a crisis. Lights seem a sensible target. Far better than cutting social services say and then having bed blocking in the hospitals as there would be no one to care for folk when they came out. Some hospitals already have TEN % beds blocked in this way.

Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: pscocoa on 10 November 2010, 16:23:38
I had better review my situation - every night 150 mains powered lights come on in my back garden for 5 hours.!!

Have done this for years.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 10 November 2010, 16:26:35
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I'll pass on commenting about Nottingham to become a dim area! I used to live there many years ago. ;D

This is a classic bit of there is a crisis, cuts have to be made otherwise there will be a crisis. Lights seem a sensible target. Far better than cutting social services say and then having bed blocking in the hospitals as there would be no one to care for folk when they came out. Some hospitals already have TEN % beds blocked in this way.

 



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This is a classic bit of there is a crisis, cuts have to be made otherwise there will be a crisis

I'm more than happy to agree with you on this V.

Watch out for more jerking knees.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Richie London on 10 November 2010, 16:38:24
150m over 3 years says they are wasting a lot of money somewhere then. they should be publishing where the money is going and let the ratepayers decide what needs to be saved.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: djac on 10 November 2010, 17:10:54
That'a bit risky - the people might decide that they don't really need all those overpaid useless council executives!
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Varche on 10 November 2010, 17:44:42
maybe the bill also includes those wonderful lights on the Notts stretch of the M1?

Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Richie London on 10 November 2010, 18:07:49
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That'a bit risky - the people might decide that they don't really need all those overpaid useless council executives!


i bet theres a few organisations that get a few quid who should be raising there own funds instead of the ratepayers pating for it.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 November 2010, 18:45:04
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A very sensible idea in my eyes, the sooner its done the better.

A number of villages around here already have this

Of course, it is always sensible to save money but the street lights were presumably put there for a purpose in the first place.  :-?

Presumption is the mother of all F-ups!

Sometimes its quite possibly a case of 'its always been like that'  :y
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Pitchfork on 10 November 2010, 18:58:05
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maybe the bill also includes those wonderful lights on the Notts stretch of the M1?

There are stretches of the M4 that are illuminated & I recall that I was once told that this was because that section fell within town boundaries & therefore lighting was mandatory
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: waspy on 10 November 2010, 18:58:58
It's all well & good until you step in something that an idol tawt has left behind after walking their dog >:( >:(
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Richie London on 10 November 2010, 19:02:18
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It's all well & good until you step in something that an idol tawt has left behind after walking their dog >:( >:(


theres usually a kebab mix or broken glass along the footpath by the pub, i wouldnt like to walk in that in the dark
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: waspy on 10 November 2010, 19:07:17
Another thing is that pollution will increase due to increased traffic, less people will walk. Women certainly won't feel safe walking.
Crime will go through the roof.
Just a few thoughts.
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Pitchfork on 10 November 2010, 19:12:42
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It's all well & good until you step in something that an idol tawt has left behind after walking their dog >:( >:(


theres usually a kebab mix or broken glass along the footpath by the pub, i wouldnt like to walk in that in the dark
Best place for a Kebab is the pavement rather than in your stomach! ;)
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: aaronjb on 10 November 2010, 19:17:36
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It's all well & good until you step in something that an idol tawt has left behind after walking their dog >:( >:(


theres usually a kebab mix or broken glass along the footpath by the pub, i wouldnt like to walk in that in the dark

You know you can buy shoes, right?  :P ;D

(I couldn't resist..)
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Amigo on 10 November 2010, 19:34:16
That's not very fair to call Nottingham folk dim. That said they'll still be able to point at aeroplanes as they have little green & red lights on!!! :D
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 10 November 2010, 19:47:25
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It's all well & good until you step in something that an idol tawt has left behind after walking their dog >:( >:(


theres usually a kebab mix or broken glass along the footpath by the pub, i wouldnt like to walk in that in the dark
Best place for a Kebab is the pavement rather than in your stomach! ;)



 8-) Outstanding  ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Nottingham to become a dim area
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 10 November 2010, 20:19:08
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Another thing is that pollution will increase due to increased traffic, less people will walk. Women certainly won't feel safe walking.
Crime will go through the roof.
Just a few thoughts.

We do not now, even in daylight hours in certain parts!! ::) ::) ;)