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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Richie London on 11 November 2010, 12:32:13
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328703/Remembrance-Day-Poppy-burning-Muslim-protesters-mar-Armistice-Day.html
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Sorry to say this but Kick out the scum and slam the countries doors closed now fast and hard.
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Yes. I'm afraid that if people want to disrupt such parts of our heritage then they should not be allowed in the country.
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i read all the edl's threads and they only organised turning up when the police informed them late yesterday about what the MAC were doing
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Sorry to say this but Kick out the scum and slam the countries doors closed now fast and hard.
Bang on my friend!
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Poppy Burning? :(
To think of all the fuss there was about a guy threatening to burn a book recently. :(
Kevin
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Sorry to say this but Kick out the scum and slam the countries doors closed now fast and hard.
well said but will never happen >:(
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Poppy Burning? :(
To think of all the fuss there was about a guy threatening to burn a book recently. :(
Kevin
but will it make the itn news tonight
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts? To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
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Student Protests - 'PM calls for full force of the law to be brought against them'
Can we expect the same from these protests? Don't think so...
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another thread i said there was 20, but looking at the pics I count 12.....12 muslims out of how many in SW7? are we really that precious? pass me the vapours!!!! ;D
its really not newsworthy :o
The Daily Mail, eh readers? ::)
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts? To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
Yeh... and the soldiers they want to "burn in hell" are the ones defending the country they now live in.
This is not right on any level. Why should we allow them in if dont respect the things done here and in our way... the same as if we were in their home country we would hav to respect their customs/traditions/laws etc etc etc. If it wernt for our boys and girls overseas, they would not have a country to come to so that they can have a better life!
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Anyone know where Enoch Powell is buried? I'm off to dig him up to replace David Cameron! >:(
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[edit] Y'know what.. I've changed my mind - I don't even want to get involved in this one..
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts? To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
I agree with the general tenor of your remarks BJ but sometimes such acts are designed to provoke and can't be ignored.
It's a sad fact that militant Islam holds the capacity to wreck havoc within these borders - its representatives have done so and will do so again.
Why would we allow such people continued freedom to peddle this particular form of hatred and provocation dressed up as religious indignation?
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Why would we allow such people continued freedom to peddle this particular form of hatred and provocation dressed up as religious indignation?
I despair that the majority of Muslims in this country who don't hold such extreme views allow it to go unchallenged, to be honest. Or are their protests out there but not as news worthy, I wonder? ::)
I also wonder what would be the reaction from the Christian churches if similar protests were carried out by extremists acting in their name?
Kevin
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Anyone know where Enoch Powell is buried? I'm off to dig him up to replace David Cameron! >:(
just listen for the spinning :y
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts? To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
Which is all great, but what they stand for and what they want is not acceptable.
I think it's about time the authorities wake up and realise that this multicultural experiment imposed on us hasn't worked. Muslims can't and won't integrate.
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Sorry to say this but Kick out the scum and slam the countries doors closed now fast and hard.
You've nothing to be sorry about! It is only common sense, but then it's a long, long time since common sense counted for anything in this benighted land of OURS! >:(
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Why would we allow such people continued freedom to peddle this particular form of hatred and provocation dressed up as religious indignation?
I despair that the majority of Muslims in this country who don't hold such extreme views allow it to go unchallenged, to be honest. Or are their protests out there but not as news worthy, I wonder? ::)
I also wonder what would be the reaction from the Christian churches if similar protests were carried out by extremists acting in their name?
Kevin
If someone was spouting vile filth like what these so called extremist are doing, in my name, I would have something to say about it. But the fact that there are no so called moderate muslims stepping up to say 'hang on, that's not us and not what we believe or want', surely indicates it is want they believe.
You say however that this might not be as newsworthy, but from our experience of muslims, it seems that if they want to be heard, they will make themselves be heard.
We can only take from this that this is the mainstream belief of muslims, it is true that they want coversion, subjugation or worse.
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts? To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
Which is all great, but what they stand for and what they want is not acceptable.
I think it's about time the authorities wake up and realise that this multicultural experiment imposed on us hasn't worked. Muslims can't and won't integrate.
Sorry Geoff, but I cannot agree on that point. You cannot tar all muslims with the same brush as here we are just talking about a very tiny minority. Most muslims are already intergrated in our society, being no more 'difficult' than any other religion including Christians. I have had muslims in my past workforce and I had absolutely no problems whatsoever. Why should I have done? They were British and no different than anyone else!! ::) ::) ::)
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Obviously I'm talking about the vast majority, there are some that do, but for all intents and purposes I stand by what I said.
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Why would we allow such people continued freedom to peddle this particular form of hatred and provocation dressed up as religious indignation?
I despair that the majority of Muslims in this country who don't hold such extreme views allow it to go unchallenged, to be honest. Or are their protests out there but not as news worthy, I wonder? ::)
I also wonder what would be the reaction from the Christian churches if similar protests were carried out by extremists acting in their name?
Kevin
If someone was spouting vile filth like what these so called extremist are doing, in my name, I would have something to say about it. But the fact that there are no so called moderate Muslims stepping up to say 'hang on, that's not us and not what we believe or want', surely indicates it is want they believe.
You say however that this might not be as newsworthy, but from our experience of Muslims, it seems that if they want to be heard, they will make themselves be heard.
We can only take from this that this is the mainstream belief of Muslims, it is true that they want conversion, subjugation or worse.
If you watch the number of Political debate shows I do leading Muslims are very vocal in their condemnation of this minority in our midst, and extremist Islamic followers in general, stating very clearly that they do not represent them, nor the true teachings of Mohammad.
They are very angry about their tactics and the shame being brought of the Islamic faith. ;) ;)
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Why would we allow such people continued freedom to peddle this particular form of hatred and provocation dressed up as religious indignation?
I despair that the majority of Muslims in this country who don't hold such extreme views allow it to go unchallenged, to be honest. Or are their protests out there but not as news worthy, I wonder? ::)
I also wonder what would be the reaction from the Christian churches if similar protests were carried out by extremists acting in their name?
Kevin
If someone was spouting vile filth like what these so called extremist are doing, in my name, I would have something to say about it. But the fact that there are no so called moderate Muslims stepping up to say 'hang on, that's not us and not what we believe or want', surely indicates it is want they believe.
You say however that this might not be as newsworthy, but from our experience of Muslims, it seems that if they want to be heard, they will make themselves be heard.
We can only take from this that this is the mainstream belief of Muslims, it is true that they want conversion, subjugation or worse.
If you watch the number of Political debate shows I do leading Muslims are very vocal in their condemnation of this minority in our midst, and extremist Islamic followers in general, stating very clearly that they do not represent them, nor the true teachings of Mohammad.
They are very angry about their tactics and the shame being brought of the Islamic faith. ;) ;)
I watch these, and they are nothing but talking shops.
I believe that these so-called moderates, they believe in the twisted version of Islam, but the true Islam is what we see on the streets, from these 'protestors'!
I believe that the people who you mention on these political debate shows, are there to appease worrying people who can't see past there own nose and think that things are going to carry on as normal and think our 'multicultural society' is ticking over nicely.
It's all there in their book.
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Why would we allow such people continued freedom to peddle this particular form of hatred and provocation dressed up as religious indignation?
I despair that the majority of Muslims in this country who don't hold such extreme views allow it to go unchallenged, to be honest. Or are their protests out there but not as news worthy, I wonder? ::)
I also wonder what would be the reaction from the Christian churches if similar protests were carried out by extremists acting in their name?
Kevin
If someone was spouting vile filth like what these so called extremist are doing, in my name, I would have something to say about it. But the fact that there are no so called moderate Muslims stepping up to say 'hang on, that's not us and not what we believe or want', surely indicates it is want they believe.
You say however that this might not be as newsworthy, but from our experience of Muslims, it seems that if they want to be heard, they will make themselves be heard.
We can only take from this that this is the mainstream belief of Muslims, it is true that they want conversion, subjugation or worse.
If you watch the number of Political debate shows I do leading Muslims are very vocal in their condemnation of this minority in our midst, and extremist Islamic followers in general, stating very clearly that they do not represent them, nor the true teachings of Mohammad.
They are very angry about their tactics and the shame being brought of the Islamic faith. ;) ;)
I watch these, and they are nothing but talking shops.
I believe that these so-called moderates, they believe in the twisted version of Islam, but the true Islam is what we see on the streets, from these 'protestors'!
I believe that the people who you mention on these political debate shows, are there to appease worrying people who can't see past there own nose and think that things are going to carry on as normal and think our 'multicultural society' is ticking over nicely.
It's all there in their book.
What book Geoff? The Qur'an? :-/ :-/
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Yes!
Anyway, on subjects like this I don't think people will ever see eye to eye. So for many reasons I am removing myself from this debate.
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Yes!
Anyway, on subjects like this I don't think people will ever see eye to eye. So for many reasons I am removing myself from this debate.
So you won't explain or elaborate what "is all there in their book" Geoff?
That is a shame :( :(
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This plays straight into the hands of the BNP.
Is it any wonder they get a following. ;)
If people were really honest, and don't believe what you hear and see in front of cameras, there are millions in this country that secretly wish the BNP had more power.
Its the 'I'll speak my mind in my own home, but I'll keep quiet in public' syndrone :y
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This plays straight into the hands of the BNP.
Is it any wonder they get a following. ;)
If people were really honest, and don't believe what you hear and see in front of cameras, there are millions in this country that secretly wish the BNP had more power.
Its the 'I'll speak my mind in my own home, but I'll keep quiet in public' syndrone :y
Really?!! :-X :-X :-X
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Sorry Lizzie, but it is like that. You hear it in pubs, clubs, I hear it at work, anywhere where people are sat talking. Just bring up the subject and I bet it turns to 'send them back to wherever they came from', albeit most of the people to which they refer are born here.
Acts like the OP will fuel it more :(
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Sorry Lizzie, but it is like that. You hear it in pubs, clubs, I hear it at work, anywhere where people are sat talking. Just bring up the subject and I bet it turns to 'send them back to wherever they came from', albeit most of the people to which they refer are born here.
Acts like the OP will fuel it more :(
If that is really true Terbert, then I hope everyone remembers what can happen when extreme right wing politics take hold in a country. But seriously, if it is "millions" who feel like that then why has the BNP not performed at the polls? :-/ :-/
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Sorry Lizzie, but it is like that. You hear it in pubs, clubs, I hear it at work, anywhere where people are sat talking. Just bring up the subject and I bet it turns to 'send them back to wherever they came from', albeit most of the people to which they refer are born here.
Acts like the OP will fuel it more :(
...But there is little evidence in the booths on polling day, which is where the real truth is spoken. ;)
Kevin
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The main reason the smaller parties don't do well at the polls is mostly due to peoples thinking patterns. They see a vote for a party such as the BNP or UKIP as a wasted vote because they don't have much of a chance to get into power. If everybody who has wanted to vote for one of the smaller parties did so at the same election I imagine we'd have a very different government by time the polls closed.
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Come on Lizzie, you know as well as I that on polling day its a case of Labour, Conservative or Lib, and a few minorites.
If one of those parties policies said all white people will be put in the Tower, or have their hands cut off, half the silly sods would still vote for them. ;D
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This plays straight into the hands of the BNP.
Is it any wonder they get a following. ;)
If people were really honest, and don't believe what you hear and see in front of cameras, there are millions in this country that secretly wish the BNP had more power.
Its the 'I'll speak my mind in my own home, but I'll keep quiet in public' syndrone :y
Really?!! :-X :-X :-X
the BNP are dead in the water, thanks to a popular yeast extract spread - no one outside a few little englanders takes them seriously and they'll fold very soon :y
I agree with Liz, how come every time they want a muslim spokesperson they go for the one-eyed guy with the hook? most muslims agree he's a joke, but the Mail, Sky, Sun et al absolutely love him as he plays right to their perceptions. most muslims are like most people - dull, quiet, happy to get on with their own lives in their circle of friends, family and colleagues ie not good media fodder :o
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I agree with Liz, how come every time they want a muslim spokesperson they go for the one-eyed guy with the hook?
you mean this one
(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/adam5172/Hangon.jpg)
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts? To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
Yeh... and the soldiers they want to "burn in hell" are the ones defending the country they now live in.
This is not right on any level. Why should we allow them in if dont respect the things done here and in our way... the same as if we were in their home country we would hav to respect their customs/traditions/laws etc etc etc. If it wernt for our boys and girls overseas, they would not have a country to come to so that they can have a better life!
im sure they turn down all the benefits available in the uk on principle as highlighted in another thread.
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the Daily Mail, who, lets not forget, supported the Nazis, wishes us to be outraged by these extreme nuts?
To be fair the Daily Mail was not the only paper who supported facism before WW2 - the Mirror was just as guilty for example.
To me its a perfect example of us being a tolerant, civilized democracy and the right to shout about whatever nonsense is in your head is part of that democracy :y
Laugh at them, ignore them but don't ban them. We fought a war over our freedoms remember? ;)
I believe tolerance works in two directions, not one. To make such a provocaive statement shows a contempt of tolerance itself and it's precisely because we live in an open society that we are also free to condemn such behaviour.
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Nicely put Bluey. :y
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i dont really follow politics and try to stay out of it as i find it reaslly upsetting how life has become in britain but on a day like today which is a way of british people showing respect for our countrymen/women who laid their lives down to preserve and keep britain british has been soiled by a select few that live here and are very british when theyre claiming theyre benefits and roofs over their heads but want the people who are fighting and dieingto still keep britainas a nation to burn in hell...what the hell is going on here..now im not being racist here but if mecca is so great that you have to face it every day and pray why arent you over there in mecca,if your homeland is so important to youfrom any race/religion that you have to have shrines to itthen why are you in britain on not in your homeland,whats happened to when in rome and dont bite the hand that feeds you,why are we housing potential murderers and religion has caused some bloody shit over the years
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It isn't homeland, it is the equivalent of Catholics visiting the Vatican.
I have seen comments from ordinary Muslims - they hate the extremists.
Those morons in London forgot a large number of their religious breatheren died in the two world wars - on the same side as us
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like i said martin i dont follow it and dont know all the ins and outs but religion has caused some grief and as i said when in rome and dont bite the hand that feeds you
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like i said martin i dont follow it and dont know all the ins and outs but religion has caused some grief and as i said when in rome and dont bite the hand that feeds you
I don't much but I am fed up of extremists peeing everyone off
The Muslims I have met were fine. I have met people from most religions and had no problems.