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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 11 November 2010, 10:14:00
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11731928
If they are selling this they need (can't say it without rudeness)
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What is wrong with this world ,
Still maybe they could trace the delivery address and find them all
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
Yes you are right they do have the lright legally but morality takes a back seat and i will be using my right as a consumer to not buy from them, good business decision Amazon! >:(
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
Voltaire.... ;)
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This seems wholly inappropriate to me.......and poor business practice too.......Amazon may well lose far more than they gain...
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
Voltaire.... ;)
The quote is commonly thought to be from Voltaire but is not correct.
It actually comes from a 1907 book called Friends of Voltaire, by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
Voltaire said (thanks Google) “Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too” from Voltaire’s Essay on Tolerance ;) ;)
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the church is probably there best customer.
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
Voltaire.... ;)
The quote is commonly thought to be from Voltaire but is not correct.
It actually comes from a 1907 book called Friends of Voltaire, by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
Voltaire said (thanks Google) “Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too” from Voltaire’s Essay on Tolerance ;) ;)
Well.....You live and learn ....Thanks Tonka... :y :y
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
Voltaire.... ;)
The quote is commonly thought to be from Voltaire but is not correct.
It actually comes from a 1907 book called Friends of Voltaire, by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
Voltaire said (thanks Google) “Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too” from Voltaire’s Essay on Tolerance ;) ;)
Well.....You live and learn ....Thanks Tonka... :y :y
I do enjoy correcting people on that one. Nearly had a fight over it once. ;D ;D ;D
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the church is probably there best customer.
Don't get me started on Catholicism ...Richie.. ::) ::) ;)
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That Amazon should do this is absolutely appalling!!
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It is indeed distastefull (mildly put) That said I believe Amazon is right to sell what it likes if legal.
Who said something like, I don't agree with you but I will defend your right to say it.
Censorship is something I do not like. especially when governments or companies are involved.
I can appreciate that this subject is a very very strong subject.
Possibly it could be used for good by tracking where the book gets sent.
Please I do not mean to offend anyone.
Edit: beaten to it.
Voltaire.... ;)
The quote is commonly thought to be from Voltaire but is not correct.
It actually comes from a 1907 book called Friends of Voltaire, by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
Voltaire said (thanks Google) “Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too” from Voltaire’s Essay on Tolerance ;) ;)
To put some extra meat on that explanation, the words are those of S.G. Tallentryre in his summary of his attitude towards Helvetius following the burning of the latter's De l'esprit in 1759. As quoted in The Friends of Voltaire (1907)
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according to amazon on facebook it has now been removed due to a large number of complaints.
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Amazon have gone down in my estimation since they started allowing any old Tom, Dick and Harry to peddle stuff using their online store, name and reputation as a façade.
It seems they don't care about the content as long as they get their cut.
Hopefully this will give them their comeuppance. Just in time for Christmas too.
Kevin
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Absolutely outrageous >:( >:(
They have lost me as a customer.
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The protest has worked - now pulled
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The protest has worked - now pulled
But how many people have had there IP address "gathered" whilst searching amazon for it ?
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Common sense has prevailed :y :y :y
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Amazon have gone down in my estimation since they started allowing any old Tom, Dick and Harry to peddle stuff using their online store, name and reputation as a façade.
It seems they don't care about the content as long as they get their cut.
Hopefully this will give them their comeuppance. Just in time for Christmas too.
Kevin
A lot of companys are doing the same, Play.com for examaple are allowing s/h stuff to be traded
If I had my way Ebay would still be an auction site with a differect site for them to allow new/repeat items to be sold.
I just think they get greedy, let the customers trade how they want and the rules get relaxed and there ends up with an amazon situation. :-/
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A lot of companys are doing the same, Play.com for examaple are allowing s/h stuff to be traded
If I had my way Ebay would still be an auction site with a differect site for them to allow new/repeat items to be sold.
I just think they get greedy, let the customers trade how they want and the rules get relaxed and there ends up with an amazon situation. :-/
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Also.. Bear in mind that, if you purchase an item through Amazon, but the supplier is a 3rd party you may lose your protection under section 75 of the consumer credit act.
Kevin
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http://www.michaelhanscom.com/eclecticism/2010/11/11/unpopular-questions/
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However it was advocating something very illegal.
How to make bombs - not offensive
All the sex books - as long as not dangerous like kiddy fiddling - who cares
Personally I would like to see peodos rounded up and shot
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How to make bombs - not offensive
Generally illegal, though, I imagine (to reference your first sentence).. and can be used to kill people so, should it be banned?
Not that I'm defending pedophiles - far from it, of course, but as I see it when you start censoring things it's the thin end of a wedge that ends with burning any books determined 'counter to public morality' or some such verbiage.
It's the right to free speech, thing - something that people exercise every day on here to air some views that I, personally, find quite revolting at times - but it's their right to air them, and I'm not going to object and try to censor them.
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How to make bombs - not offensive
Generally illegal, though, I imagine (to reference your first sentence)..
Like a lot of people I'll let most stuff go but advising kiddy fiddlers how to do it crosses the line.
I am not on about teenagers together but traditional kiddly fiddlers.
But one problem is when they are caught in a company, usually they do not call the Police, usually they are sacked - companies do not want the adverse publicity.
Only court case I have heard of was from a solicitor.
HOWEVER I think the cartoon porn laws are ridiculous - collectors of Japanese comics can be put on sex charges.
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Sorry, I think I snuck an edit in there while you were writing your reply :-[
The porn laws are ridiculous indeed - just look at Australia, who've banned any pictures depicting 'small breasts' as perverse..
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Kiddly fiddling is just about the only thing I would deal with.
And only real pictures and things like the advice.
Would I boycott for selling porn mags no, but kiddy fiddling is the line not to be crossed.
I think 99.9% of parents are the same
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How to make bombs - not offensive
Generally illegal, though, I imagine (to reference your first sentence)..
Like a lot of people I'll let most stuff go but advising kiddy fiddlers how to do it crosses the line.
I am not on about teenagers together but traditional kiddly fiddlers.
But one problem is when they are caught in a company, usually they do not call the Police, usually they are sacked - companies do not want the adverse publicity.
Only court case I have heard of was from a solicitor.
HOWEVER I think the cartoon porn laws are ridiculous - collectors of Japanese comics can be put on sex charges.
Was there not a recent case with a high up government advisor, can't remember his name but he resigned his position.....
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Sorry, I think I snuck an edit in there while you were writing your reply :-[
The porn laws are ridiculous indeed - just look at Australia, who've banned any pictures depicting 'small breasts' as perverse..
I know - then there is the Hentai ban, the tentacle porn ban ect ect - they are just comics!
Basically any real prepubescent child is not classable as a sexual fetish, hence why I think they should be shot.
I am pretty tolerant of stuff, but I think you understand why people want it stopped.
BTW Proper literature - no problem to me
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How to make bombs - not offensive
Generally illegal, though, I imagine (to reference your first sentence)..
Like a lot of people I'll let most stuff go but advising kiddy fiddlers how to do it crosses the line.
I am not on about teenagers together but traditional kiddly fiddlers.
But one problem is when they are caught in a company, usually they do not call the Police, usually they are sacked - companies do not want the adverse publicity.
Only court case I have heard of was from a solicitor.
HOWEVER I think the cartoon porn laws are ridiculous - collectors of Japanese comics can be put on sex charges.
Was there not a recent case with a high up government advisor, can't remember his name but he resigned his position.....
Aghhh
It was a solicitors they had an employee emailing boy porn around with his fellow perverts can't remember the job but he wasn't a legal person.
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See, I don't agree with censoring the 'literature' (let's face it, I don't think you can call the Anarchists Cookbook 'proper literature' either ;)) ..
But I'm all for finding out who ordered the book and then investigating them ;)
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Sorry, I think I snuck an edit in there while you were writing your reply :-[
The porn laws are ridiculous indeed - just look at Australia, who've banned any pictures depicting 'small breasts' as perverse..
I know - then there is the Hentai ban, the tentacle porn ban ect ect - they are just comics!
Basically any real prepubescent child is not classable as a sexual fetish, hence why I think they should be shot.
I am pretty tolerant of stuff, but I think you understand why people want it stopped.
BTW Proper literature - no problem to me
Have I missed something??? They certainly are by some...believe me..... :-X
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See, I don't agree with censoring the 'literature' (let's face it, I don't think you can call the Anarchists Cookbook 'proper literature' either ;)) ..
But I'm all for finding out who ordered the book and then investigating them ;)
The problem was simply Amazon selling it but finding the customers would be fun with these tools
(http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/herdmed/applied-ethology/articles/castratools.jpg)
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Sorry, I think I snuck an edit in there while you were writing your reply :-[
The porn laws are ridiculous indeed - just look at Australia, who've banned any pictures depicting 'small breasts' as perverse..
I know - then there is the Hentai ban, the tentacle porn ban ect ect - they are just comics!
Basically any real prepubescent child is not classable as a sexual fetish, hence why I think they should be shot.
I am pretty tolerant of stuff, but I think you understand why people want it stopped.
BTW Proper literature - no problem to me
Have I missed something??? They certainly are by some...believe me..... :-X
If someone gets sexually excited by an 8 year old, they are faulty and well what can you do?
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Sorry, I think I snuck an edit in there while you were writing your reply :-[
The porn laws are ridiculous indeed - just look at Australia, who've banned any pictures depicting 'small breasts' as perverse..
I know - then there is the Hentai ban, the tentacle porn ban ect ect - they are just comics!
Basically any real prepubescent child is not classable as a sexual fetish, hence why I think they should be shot.
I am pretty tolerant of stuff, but I think you understand why people want it stopped.
BTW Proper literature - no problem to me
Have I missed something??? They certainly are by some...believe me..... :-X
If someone gets sexually excited by an 8 year old, they are faulty and well what can you do?
Ask your local Priest....... :-X :-X :-X
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Sorry, I think I snuck an edit in there while you were writing your reply :-[
The porn laws are ridiculous indeed - just look at Australia, who've banned any pictures depicting 'small breasts' as perverse..
I know - then there is the Hentai ban, the tentacle porn ban ect ect - they are just comics!
Basically any real prepubescent child is not classable as a sexual fetish, hence why I think they should be shot.
I am pretty tolerant of stuff, but I think you understand why people want it stopped.
BTW Proper literature - no problem to me
Have I missed something??? They certainly are by some...believe me..... :-X
If someone gets sexually excited by an 8 year old, they are faulty and well what can you do?
Ask your local Priest....... :-X :-X :-X
All the ones I have come across are called vicars and are usually married.
I know no non CofE clergy
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I have always said "live and let live" and I have many times defended someones right to an opinion, even if sometimes I did not agree with it myself.
But this book to me is so totally abhorrent, I would (if I was in authority) DEMAND from Amazon a list of the people who have purchased this vile book, and track them down.
What I would do to these people is not printable, but suffice to say they would never have either the inclination nor the physical parts to ever be able to hurt another vulnerable child again.
Granted that there are always some people who get their kicks in unusual ways, but with innocent children? not right in the head they are.
(sorry, off soapbox now and walking away) :-X :-X :-X
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Couldn't agree more Mike! :y :y :y