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Title: Bad Driving
Post by: neilr on 17 November 2010, 15:37:21
Just seen a report where an 83 year old in Bristol was caught on cctv pushing a car from in front of his garage with his peugeot. He has been fined and banned for this. What has happened to the inconsiderate moron who blocke his garage nothing. Wheres the justice i have to say i back him fully and would do the same. He had reported the problem to police and council sa it had happened before but neither took any action. And where did this occur opposit a school so say no more!
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Andy B on 17 November 2010, 15:54:27
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Just seen a report where an 83 year old in Bristol was caught on cctv pushing a car from in front of his garage with his peugeot. He has been fined and banned for this. What has happened to the inconsiderate moron who blocke his garage nothing. Wheres the justice i have to say i back him fully and would do the same. He had reported the problem to police and council sa it had happened before but neither took any action. And where did this occur opposit a school so say no more!

What planet is the prosecutor on?  :-?

But Sarah Regan, prosecuting, said he had not taken the right course of action. She said: ‘The way you deal with it is to leave a note on the windscreen and have a word when they come back. You don’t use your car to move it.

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330189/Pensioner-caught-CCTV-using-car-shunt-vehicle-blocking-garage.html#ixzz15YVaVjqT
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2010, 16:03:06
Perhaps a note like this:

http://www.photoblip.com/images/330/e98cb6e145c1459fa320375683ed7756.jpg

I can sympathise with him - I suffer round my way being constantly blocked by a neighbour who uses our little cul-de-sac as a builders yard with tipper trucks and LWB sprinter vans blocking everything off .. but so far I've stopped short of messing with his sh*t. So far.

[edit] Made the image a link as it contained a single s-word .. didn't notice that ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Banjax on 17 November 2010, 16:05:42
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Perhaps a note like this:

(http://www.photoblip.com/images/330/e98cb6e145c1459fa320375683ed7756.jpg)

I can sympathise with him - I suffer round my way being constantly blocked by a neighbour who uses our little cul-de-sac as a builders yard with tipper trucks and LWB sprinter vans blocking everything off .. but so far I've stopped short of messing with his sh*t. So far.


love it - i might print a few  :y
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: neilr on 17 November 2010, 16:23:02
A guy used to park across my drive and sneer when I politely asked him not to. When I told I would use my universal key to move it he didnt. What universal key he asked. I produced my club hammer. He never parked there again.!
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 November 2010, 16:29:54
I have done this myself in the past :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: neilr on 17 November 2010, 16:36:57
which bit Martin
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Gaffers on 17 November 2010, 17:12:55
When I lived in Paris it was common knowledge to leave your handbrake off and the car in neutral.  Then as cars came and went people would slowly reverse onto your car and gently push it back to make room.  to get out you do the same.  it worked most of the time, although once a woman decided to reverse not very gently at all into my car, however, mine was an old peugeot, hers was a new fiat.  I dont need to tell you whose car came off worse  ;D ;D ;D

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nif2gODVxm8&NR=1[/media]

et voila mes amis!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Andy B on 17 November 2010, 17:23:26
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When I lived in Paris it was common knowledge to leave your handbrake off and the car in neutral.  Then as cars came and went people would slowly reverse onto your car and gently push it back to make room.  to get out you do the same.  it worked most of the time, although once a woman decided to reverse not very gently at all into my car, however, mine was an old peugeot, hers was a new fiat.  I dont need to tell you whose car came off worse  ;D ;D ;D

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nif2gODVxm8&NR=1[/media]

et voila mes amis!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The Spanish use the same technique, but parking in front of a garage is taking the proverbial. Who is the parker to decide if the owner of the garage wants to come or go? The prosecutor suggested that a note should have been left, what if you were leaving for work, as presumably the old bloke was, I wonder what work would make of your reason for being late  :-/
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Pitchfork on 17 November 2010, 17:29:18
The solution is to write a polite note asking them not to park it there..............then nail it to the cars roof just above the driver head
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 November 2010, 17:38:53
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The solution is to write a polite note asking them not to park it there..............then nail it to the cars roof just above the driver head


.. or go out to the local hardware store and buy a big box of tacks, then "trip over" just as you get back to your driveway. Wait until after the school run before you sweep them up, so you don't get in the way. ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2010, 17:43:37
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The solution is to write a polite note asking them not to park it there..............then nail it to the cars roof just above the driver head

Got to make sure you use a long enough nail, though ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Richie London on 17 November 2010, 17:48:16
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The solution is to write a polite note asking them not to park it there..............then nail it to the cars roof just above the driver head

Got to make sure you use a long enough nail, though ;D


plas gun, 80 nails a minute would be the best course of action  ;)
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 17 November 2010, 17:52:14
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The solution is to write a polite note asking them not to park it there..............then nail it to the cars roof just above the driver head



 ;D ;D ;D ;D Splendid.  :y :y
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 November 2010, 17:56:08
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which bit Martin


Moving a car
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 17 November 2010, 18:08:28
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What planet is the prosecutor on?  :-?




Aah that's a difficult one Andy; I've sat for many years in courtrooms in various parts of the country asking myself the very same question.

Except in a few notable cases that question remains an enigma wrapped up in utter confusion as the facts of most cases brought before any court seem to take a different hue when tried in the ordered sanctity of such places.
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Andy B on 17 November 2010, 18:11:37
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What planet is the prosecutor on?  :-?




Aah that's a difficult one Andy; I've sat for many years in courtrooms in various parts of the country asking myself the very same question.

Except in a few notable cases that question remains an enigma wrapped up in utter confusion as the facts of most cases brought before any court seem to take a different hue when tried in the ordered sanctity of such places.

Was that long for ....... f***ed if I know?  ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Andy B on 17 November 2010, 18:15:40
Being serious, he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving, how was it dangerous driving and what would the possible alternatives a court could handed out to him had he pleaded not guilty?  :-/
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 November 2010, 18:21:33
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Being serious, he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving, how was it dangerous driving and what would the possible alternatives a court could handed out to him had he pleaded not guilty?  :-/

dangerous driving = "I don't like your attitude, and you happen to own a car" in this case, I think.

Kevin
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 17 November 2010, 18:30:58
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What planet is the prosecutor on?  :-?




Aah that's a difficult one Andy; I've sat for many years in courtrooms in various parts of the country asking myself the very same question.

Except in a few notable cases that question remains an enigma wrapped up in utter confusion as the facts of most cases brought before any court seem to take a different hue when tried in the ordered sanctity of such places.

Was that long for ....... f***ed if I know?  ::) ::) ::) ;)

It amounts to much the same thing I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 17 November 2010, 18:43:19
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Being serious, he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving, how was it dangerous driving and what would the possible alternatives a court could handed out to him had he pleaded not guilty?  :-/

Having entered a plea to dangerous driving on the first occasion for a similar offence it would have been difficult for him to contest a similar charge for the second alleged offence.

The proximity of the pedestrians and the fact that a vehicle was pushed out onto a roadway probably didn't do him any favours.

I would add however that the quality of his legal representation would have to be questioned in light of the first plea. ((In the absence of the known facts)
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2010, 18:47:39
Oh, this was almost prophetic.. the neighbour who treats the parking/turning area as his private builders yard has been parking his vans in his drive (shocker!) for the past week or so..

My other (nice!) neighbour moved out today ..

All the builders vans are back in the visitors parking/turning area  ::)

[edit] Shame I don't own anything big enough to push/drag his vans around ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Andy B on 17 November 2010, 18:56:05
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Being serious, he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving, how was it dangerous driving and what would the possible alternatives a court could handed out to him had he pleaded not guilty?  :-/

Having entered a plea to dangerous driving on the first occasion for a similar offence it would have been difficult for him to contest a similar charge for the second alleged offence.

The proximity of the pedestrians and the fact that a vehicle was pushed out onto a roadway probably didn't do him any favours.

I would add however that the quality of his legal representation would have to be questioned in light of the first plea. ((In the absence of the known facts)

Probably the default junior that turns up if he/she's being paid by the legal bit from your insurance. Unfortunately I've been in that situation myself.
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: waspy on 17 November 2010, 19:50:40
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Oh, this was almost prophetic.. the neighbour who treats the parking/turning area as his private builders yard has been parking his vans in his drive (shocker!) for the past week or so..

My other (nice!) neighbour moved out today ..

All the builders vans are back in the visitors parking/turning area  ::)

[edit] Shame I don't own anything big enough to push/drag his vans around ;D

Organise a OOF meet in your street :y ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2010, 20:09:56
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Oh, this was almost prophetic.. the neighbour who treats the parking/turning area as his private builders yard has been parking his vans in his drive (shocker!) for the past week or so..

My other (nice!) neighbour moved out today ..

All the builders vans are back in the visitors parking/turning area  ::)

[edit] Shame I don't own anything big enough to push/drag his vans around ;D

Organise a OOF meet in your street :y ;D

You're not the first one to suggest a car meet ;) That would work - as long as we could find a day when he had all his vans out.. and the miserable old sod at number 8 didn't get his knickers in a knot about it ;D (Surprised he hasn't put a hex on the builder yet, actually!)
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: sassanach on 17 November 2010, 20:49:17
i find that a fork lift will sort these issues out very successfully :y
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2010, 21:05:24
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i find that a fork lift will sort these issues out very successfully :y

Ooh hey.. couple of grand on eBay will pick one up, too!

Oh that's tempting ;D Middle of the night, go out, pick up his vans & shuffle them about... ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 November 2010, 21:46:55
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i find that a fork lift will sort these issues out very successfully :y

Ooh hey.. couple of grand on eBay will pick one up, too!

Oh that's tempting ;D Middle of the night, go out, pick up his vans & shuffle them about... ;D

Needs to be electric for stealth. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: 05omegav6 on 17 November 2010, 22:12:03
Weatherproof adhesive was always quite effective for sticking A4 sized notes to commuter cars left in our cul-de-sac. Carefully emptying all of the air out of the tyres was also quite good against repeat offenders.  ::)

I should probably add two points: 1. I've long since moved; 2. Air was released through the valves and NOT by using nails/screws as that would be both nasty and criminal. :-X
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 17 November 2010, 22:32:50
I hear a schrader valve key works quite well for that  :-X ;D
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Entwood on 17 November 2010, 22:46:37
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Being serious, he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving, how was it dangerous driving and what would the possible alternatives a court could handed out to him had he pleaded not guilty?  :-/

Once he pleads guilty the court can do very little. The court does NOT have anything to do with the charges, and cannot amend them. Had he pleaded "not guilty", gone to trial, and been found "guilty" the punsishment would have been higher...as "discount" is given for an early guilty plea.

IMHO the fault here is with a) CPS .. who seem to have gone for the jugular, probably realising the old guy wouldn't fight and b) with the defence soliciter/barrister who has not done his job properly.

It would be the defence who would/should "persuade" the prosecution that the charges are unreasonable ... blatently this did not happen... :(

On the second occasion it went to trial and the Jury convicted ... probably on far more evidence than that one page report !!
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Auto Addict on 18 November 2010, 07:10:20
The house across the way, was having some building work done in the summer, I went out, and came back about 2 hours later to find a builders wagon on my drive, and they were mixing cement on my tarmac.

I was not happy. >:(
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: aaronjb on 18 November 2010, 10:20:43
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The house across the way, was having some building work done in the summer, I went out, and came back about 2 hours later to find a builders wagon on my drive, and they were mixing cement on my tarmac.

I was not happy. >:(
:o :o :o

Some people just have zero respect for other peoples property, eh  :-/


Speaking of bad driving, though .. what did I see on the way to work?

An AA Driving School car firmly embedded in some trees (on a straight stretch of road with a single side junction)  :o ;D

Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Psychoca on 18 November 2010, 10:59:37
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I hear a schrader valve key works quite well for that 
A schrader valve key does indeed work very well...  especially if the valve is left a little off tight...  Enough to simulate a very slow puncture....  It would be enough to keep him running to the local tyre place every couple of weeks, due to his tyre(s) going down...  Not that I have ever done nor would do such a thing...   :-X  :-X ;D[smiley=engel017.gif]
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Jusme on 18 November 2010, 11:13:35
Had an experience with one of these considerate types, after being asked politely a couple of times with no result, 2 mates were enlisted to help. Offending car parks outside, 2 phone calls are made, one car turns up and reverses to within an inch of offending cars bumper, second car turns up and parks an inch off of rear bumper. Then we all went out shopping for 3 hours..... End of problem...  :y
Title: Re: Bad Driving
Post by: Auto Addict on 18 November 2010, 11:20:06
Or just put a polite notice on the windscreen, asking them if they wouldn't mind not blocking the drive in future - STUCK ON WITH SUPERGLUE