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Title: Long story sorry
Post by: Vamps on 18 November 2010, 21:41:02
This was pointed out to me today, and she does not live on Tynside.....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1330689/Portrait-VERY-modern-14-year-old-Tattoos-piercings-drinking-alcohol.html
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Gaffers on 18 November 2010, 21:48:10
sounds like a failure of the school to challenger her intellect that has led to a sarcophany of bad decisions in this young lady's life :(
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: aaronjb on 18 November 2010, 21:50:18
Mystic Meg Mode: Pregnant by 16, on benefits by 17.

Or am I just old & cynical?
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Entwood on 18 November 2010, 22:03:17
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sounds like a failure of the school to challenger her intellect that has led to a sarcophany of bad decisions in this young lady's life :(


Sorry .. must disagree strongly .... Don't blame the school .. blame the real culprit ... the mother.

Total lack of parental responsibility .. parents are NOT "friends" ..... they are "PARENTS"

and if this one had used the word "NO" occasionally things might well be different.
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: albitz on 18 November 2010, 22:05:42
Agreed. :y :y
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: aaronjb on 18 November 2010, 22:11:34
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sounds like a failure of the school to challenger her intellect that has led to a sarcophany of bad decisions in this young lady's life :(


Sorry .. must disagree strongly .... Don't blame the school .. blame the real culprit ... the mother.

Total lack of parental responsibility .. parents are NOT "friends" ..... they are "PARENTS"

and if this one had used the word "NO" occasionally things might well be different.

Indeed..

The article makes it seem like she's the only 14y/o at it - I'm starting to think that if a kid is over 12, they've probably got more sexual experience than I have!

Er.. that sounds wrong, but I think you know what I mean  ::)
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 18 November 2010, 22:51:33
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sounds like a failure of the school to challenger her intellect that has led to a sarcophany of bad decisions in this young lady's life :(


Sorry .. must disagree strongly .... Don't blame the school .. blame the real culprit ... the mother.

Total lack of parental responsibility .. parents are NOT "friends" ..... they are "PARENTS"

and if this one had used the word "NO" occasionally things might well be different.


Although I'm not a parent, I would certainly agree with that.
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 November 2010, 22:52:47
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Mystic Meg Mode: Pregnant by 16, on benefits by 17.

Or am I just old & cynical?

I am 49 and remember at least 2 girls leaving school at 14/15 due to pregnancy.

At the end of the day you can blame who you want, if they decide they want to do it then they will.  Times have changed but people havent.  It;s the same today as it was 10, 30 or 50 years ago and will be in the future.

Sex exducation needs bringing into line and taught earlier.

Same regards teaching on booze and fags.


Kids are more intelogent these days, but if not taught right from wrong from all directions then it wont sink in.   Plus a lot of mothers would rather have thier kids doing wrong under thier roofs rather than out on the streets and doing wrong that they dont know about.
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 18 November 2010, 22:54:17
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sounds like a failure of the school to challenger her intellect that has led to a sarcophany of bad decisions in this young lady's life :(


Sorry .. must disagree strongly .... Don't blame the school .. blame the real culprit ... the mother.

Total lack of parental responsibility .. parents are NOT "friends" ..... they are "PARENTS"

and if this one had used the word "NO" occasionally things might well be different.

Indeed..

The article makes it seem like she's the only 14y/o at it - I'm starting to think that if a kid is over 12, they've probably got more sexual experience than I have!

Er.. that sounds wrong, but I think you know what I mean  ::)

I last had biblical knowledge in June 1994 - can you beat that?
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: albitz on 18 November 2010, 23:19:20
The more sex education they have, the earlier they have it, the easier and more available contraception becomes etc. etc. the faster the teenage pregnacy rates and incidence of STD,s have risen.
That isnt some old fashioned, victorian, Daily Mail rant. It is undeniable fact, produced from official figures - but still the Liberal elite who make the decisions on these matters continue at an ever increasing pace in the same direction.
Time to stop, think and have an honest re-appraissal of the whole situation imo.
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: aaronjb on 18 November 2010, 23:22:07
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Mystic Meg Mode: Pregnant by 16, on benefits by 17.

Or am I just old & cynical?

I am 49 and remember at least 2 girls leaving school at 14/15 due to pregnancy.

Oh yes - I'm not saying it's a new thing :) A friend of mine, a few years older than me, had her first daughter at 16..


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sounds like a failure of the school to challenger her intellect that has led to a sarcophany of bad decisions in this young lady's life :(


Sorry .. must disagree strongly .... Don't blame the school .. blame the real culprit ... the mother.

Total lack of parental responsibility .. parents are NOT "friends" ..... they are "PARENTS"

and if this one had used the word "NO" occasionally things might well be different.

Indeed..

The article makes it seem like she's the only 14y/o at it - I'm starting to think that if a kid is over 12, they've probably got more sexual experience than I have!

Er.. that sounds wrong, but I think you know what I mean  ::)

I last had biblical knowledge in June 1994 - can you beat that?

No ;) unusually it's less than a year for me - before that it was a good five years or so.. so I'm next due to mate in 2015 ;D
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Amigo on 18 November 2010, 23:33:07
For someone who possessed the intelligence to teach the mother is obviously deluded. This young girl will look a mess by her mid 20's, early 30's. I kind of understand the logic of allowing sex at home so you know where she is & who she's with but NOT if she was my daughter. >:(
   Is'nt there some legal implication in allowing uder age sex in your home even if you are the parent? :o
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 18 November 2010, 23:42:35
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For someone who possessed the intelligence to teach the mother is obviously deluded. This young girl will look a mess by her mid 20's, early 30's. I kind of understand the logic of allowing sex at home so you know where she is & who she's with but NOT if she was my daughter. >:(
   Is'nt there some legal implication in allowing uder age sex in your home even if you are the parent? :o

Laying the law down on kids today will only make them do the opposite, but if they do misbehave at least take precautions.

I cant take sides, I was 19 before I woked it all out but my brother reckons he has been at it since the age of 12, he also had is stomach pumped after downing a bottle of whiskey at 12 that he nicked from the house and has smoked from the age of 12 as well.

My bro is now 42, has lost count of the conquests he has bedded and is out drinking Thurs, fri, sat and sun, he took heed and stopped smoking at 40, cant see him ever stopping the boozing and as for marriage he has the same attitude as me (allthough  . . . . . :-X)
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Dave Elite on 19 November 2010, 00:56:54
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Mystic Meg Mode: Pregnant by 16, on benefits by 17.

Or am I just old & cynical?

I am 49 and remember at least 2 girls leaving school at 14/15 due to pregnancy.

At the end of the day you can blame who you want, if they decide they want to do it then they will.  Times have changed but people havent.  It;s the same today as it was 10, 30 or 50 years ago and will be in the future.

Sex exducation needs bringing into line and taught earlier.

Same regards teaching on booze and fags.


Kids are more intelogent these days, but if not taught right from wrong from all directions then it wont sink in.   Plus a lot of mothers would rather have thier kids doing wrong under thier roofs rather than out on the streets and doing wrong that they dont know about.
Yes and they can spell Intelligent as well.
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 19 November 2010, 01:10:38
There's allways one smart asre ::)
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: jerry on 19 November 2010, 08:58:39
there may be a bit of truth in some off what the mother says. problem is , all kids get to a certain age and you cant pick their friends and who they fall in with, so despite all a parents warnings about sex or drink or drugs and all their best efforts, it is not guaranteed that their offspring will not be tempted to dabble. That said, part of parenting IS to give them a sort of moral compass. It isnt about some wishy-washy liberalism that sets them no rules and fills them with fase hope and (worse?) enables the parents to live their own dreams by proxy. Its also about teaching them the realites of life and how to deal with them. Surely there are more than enough children in our society let down and endangered by bad parenting  whether it be down to ignorance or drug/alchohol abuse without these so called "liberal" parents actively adding to the problem. Sure, all children-indeed all people-should be encouraged to reach their potential , but everyone's potential is different! Sorry to break it to a lot of those X-factor hopefuls but most of you are deluded and I can sing better! Why cant we let children be children anymore? Its not like we are in a third-world or war torn country where by neccessity they have to grow up fast.Must be me getting old again :-[
Title: Re: Long story sorry
Post by: Chris_H on 19 November 2010, 10:03:15
The mother hasn't taken her responsibilities seriously enough IMHO.  She is out for the quick short-cut.

The likelihood of the daughter making it as a pop star is very slim and she will be left with no self-esteem, no recognisable qualifications and will probably have taken her own life before she's even started it.

Someone's going to blame a social worker as well.  What a mess. :(