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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: HolyCount on 19 November 2010, 22:15:51
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Just seen on the news that Camilla might become Queen, as opposed to Princess Consort, if and when Charlie takes the throne.
I thought this was a big no-no ! Edward VIII abdicated because he couldn't marry Wallace Simpson ---- was this because she was a divorcee or an American ???
Why should she become a Queen ??? Phillip is not King, but Prince Consort.
How can Charlie bend the "rules" so ???
Discuss
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Just seen on the news that Camilla might become Queen, as opposed to Princess Consort, if and when Charlie takes the throne.
I thought this was a big no-no ! Edward VIII abdicated because he couldn't marry Wallace Simpson ---- was this because she was a divorcee or an American ???
Why should she become a Queen ??? Phillip is not King, but Prince Consort.
How can Charlie bend the "rules" so ???
Discuss
As far as I understand it no rules would be bent. A King always 'trumps' a Queen, which is why Prince Philip is only a consort, you couldn't have him being 'higher' than our Queen. Charles will be King, so Camilla would be queen because Charles would still be 'higher' than her despite her title.
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What about the divorcee bit, or was the problem with Wallace that she was American ?
Mind you ... Phil is Greek, so that can't be it !
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What about the divorcee bit, or was the problem with Wallace that she was American ?
She was a divorcee. :y
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What about the divorcee bit, or was the problem with Wallace that she was American ?
Mind you ... Phil is Greek, so that can't be it !
I don't think the divorce bit matters! Remember Henry VIII and the creation of protestantism!
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What about the divorcee bit, or was the problem with Wallace that she was American ?
Mind you ... Phil is Greek, so that can't be it !
I don't think the divorce bit matters! Remember Henry VIII and the creation of protestantism!
Have a read of ....... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallis,_Duchess_of_Windsor
The King's desire to marry a woman with two living ex-husbands caused a constitutional crisis in the United Kingdom and the Dominions, which ultimately led to the King's abdication in December 1936 to marry "the woman I love"
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I think it can be seen by most people that the elite (hate using that word in relation to people), usually bend/create/get rid of rules to suit themselves and get what they want
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Skip that whole generation, I say. What's the use of a King who's a pompous tree-hugger who whinges every time someone tries to build something modern? ;)
Kevin
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I was under the impression that Charles was never going to be King, such was his unpopularity and that Wills would be the next King......is this not why the Queen is hanging in there?
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Skip that whole generation, I say. What's the use of a King who's a pompous tree-hugger who whinges every time someone tries to build something modern? ;)
Kevin
too right!
how the hell can he charge the army rent for access to his estate?!?! Is that just bloody greedy/stupid or what?
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Skip that whole generation, I say. What's the use of a King who's a pompous tree-hugger who whinges every time someone tries to build something modern? ;)
Kevin
I'm with you there Kevin. Kate is, as yet, an unknown. But I think William could make a good King. Get a bit of "real" royal blood back on the British Throne too (thanks to Diana).
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Skip that whole generation, I say. What's the use of a King who's a pompous tree-hugger who whinges every time someone tries to build something modern? ;)
Kevin
too right!
how the hell can he charge the army rent for access to his estate?!?! Is that just bloody greedy/stupid or what?
I have a personal grudge with Charlie over Cornwall .... but that is another story!!!
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Skip that whole generation, I say. What's the use of a King who's a pompous tree-hugger who whinges every time someone tries to build something modern? ;)
Kevin
Yes, Charles is a cock
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I was under the impression that Charles was never going to be King, such was his unpopularity and that Wills would be the next King......is this not why the Queen is hanging in there?
Where'd that come from? :-? No reason at all to believe that Charles won't ascend after the Queen dies ....... he'll be 80-ish if the Queen Mum is anything to go by. ;)
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I was under the impression that Charles was never going to be King, such was his unpopularity and that Wills would be the next King......is this not why the Queen is hanging in there?
Where'd that come from? :-? No reason at all to believe that Charles won't ascend after the Queen dies ....... he'll be 80-ish if the Queen Mum is anything to go by. ;)
Was an idea chucked about a couple of years ago to try and make the Royals more popular again...
Personally, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't see the throne ;)
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I was under the impression that Charles was never going to be King, such was his unpopularity and that Wills would be the next King......is this not why the Queen is hanging in there?
Where'd that come from? :-? No reason at all to believe that Charles won't ascend after the Queen dies ....... he'll be 80-ish if the Queen Mum is anything to go by. ;)
Not sure Andy, post Di's death I guess, he is or was not particularly popular............. :-/ :-/
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When it was announced he was going to marry Camilla, I expressed my objections in writing to both the Queen and the Archbishop of Canterbury. As the future head of the C of E Charlkes should have lead by example. Right then I knew Camilla would end up being Queen.
It is all absolutely diabolical. Two fingers to the people.
For sure Charles will be next King unless he dies before the Queen does. For what it is worth I think Wills would be a good king. :y
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I certainly would not stand for the national anthem if she became queen. Old tart.
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yes, if Queen Elizabeth II dies (she'll never abdicate - quite rightly) and Charles is still alive then of course he'll be King, and whoever he's married to becomes Queen....why on earth would they change that? And attacking Charles for taking rent.....hmmm - as his mum is the largest land owner in Britain, am I to think she recieves no rent for any of her vast estates? so why single out Charles?
And another thing - how come Charles is pilloried by everyone for marrying the woman he loved all along? With Di, there were never in love - she had numerous affairs, including having a son with that captain guy, forget his name - it was an arranged marriage which didn't turn out well. Now his son does the same thing and everyones happy - cheers for taking the bullet on that one dad :y
a mate of mine is an ex-para and has nothing but the utmost respect for Charles for other reasons - won't hear a word against him :y
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Yes, I have a certain amount of sympathy for Charles on the love stakes. If he married for love in his younger days it would probably have been Astrid of Luxembourg ---- but that was stymied because she was Catholic.
Diana was, effectively a lamb to the slaughter, and there to provide the requisite son and heir. However, through her, William will bring back "British" Royal Blood to the throne.
And why shouldn't Charles be pilloried for having an affair with another woman while married to Diana. If he loved Camilla all the time he should have had the spine to marry HER in the first place --- he can break with royal protocol now -- why not then. Yes ... he was young and impressionable, but I stray off the point. When us peasants cock up we get stick, why shouldn't Charles.
Incidentally I am a Royalist and the Queen is an exemplary Sovereign. Charles, however, might be a different kettle of fish.
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Yes, I have a certain amount of sympathy for Charles on the love stakes. If he married for love in his younger days it would probably have been Astrid of Luxembourg ---- but that was stymied because she was Catholic.
Diana was, effectively a lamb to the slaughter, and there to provide the requisite son and heir. However, through her, William will bring back "British" Royal Blood to the throne.
And why shouldn't Charles be pilloried for having an affair with another woman while married to Diana. If he loved Camilla all the time he should have had the spine to marry HER in the first place --- he can break with royal protocol now -- why not then. Yes ... he was young and impressionable, but I stray off the point. When us peasants cock up we get stick, why shouldn't Charles.
Incidentally I am a Royalist and the Queen is an exemplary Sovereign. Charles, however, might be a different kettle of fish.
Well said. The Royals behave as they always have done however what was OK in "olden days" isn't anymore. We are all too well informed and have our rights. Regardless of any good he has done it was a premeditated mistake. And that from the future head of our church no less. It still stinks.
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Queen Camilla?? :o :o.........Queen of whores would be more appropriatec imo. >:( >:(
I think what she and Charles did to Diana was utterly disgraceful, and neither of then should ever be forgiven for it.
Charles certainly didnt marry for love, but Diana did. At that time she was a young, vulnerable, naive girl who had no idea what she was letting herself in for. Charles had been shagging old horseface behind her husbands back for years before he got married and he continued to do so all through his own marriage, long before his wife embarked on any of her affairs.
When she became the darling of the media, the spoilt little brat was so jealous that he had his own people undermine her at every opportunity, to try to put her in her place.
When she confronted him about Camilla he was reported to have replied "for gods sake Diana, do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales not have taken a mistress?" - this was towards the end of the 20th century ffs!
When she wouldnt see things his way, he and his mistress made her life such a misery that it drove the poor girl to the brink of insanity. They then constantly briefed ther friends in the press that she was an unhinged basket case - thats sick imo.
I think that the behaviour of the Royals at the time of her death, and the fact that they didnt shed a tear between them,but not long after, they cried like babies because their yacht was taken out of service, speaks volumes about them.
From what I have seen of William in the press etc. he comes across as a genuine human being (something his idiotic father could never be) and I would like to see him take the throne, when granny pops her clogs. It wont happen though imo. Charles wants it bad, he has been chomping at the bit for years to get the big job.
I feel sorry for the girl though, when the novelty wears off, she will forever be a bird in a gilded cage.
Im not a great Royalist myself, but as Martin Imber mentioned, it is the one thing that prevents us from having someone like Bliar install himself as president. ;)
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I certainly would not stand for the national anthem if she became queen. Old tart.
but if you were standing, you'd be standing for the King, not the Queen ..... who ever that might be.
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Queen Camilla?? :o :o.........Queen of whores would be more appropriatec imo. >:( >:(
I think what she and Charles did to Diana was utterly disgraceful, and neither of then should ever be forgiven for it.
Charles certainly didnt marry for love, but Diana did. At that time she was a young, vulnerable, naive girl who had no idea what she was letting herself in for. Charles had been shagging old horseface behind her husbands back for years before he got married and he continued to do so all through his own marriage, long before his wife embarked on any of her affairs.
When she became the darling of the media, the spoilt little brat was so jealous that he had his own people undermine her at every opportunity, to try to put her in her place.
When she confronted him about Camilla he was reported to have replied "for gods sake Diana, do you seriously expect me to be the first Prince of Wales not have taken a mistress?" - this was towards the end of the 20th century ffs!
When she wouldnt see things his way, he and his mistress made her life such a misery that it drove the poor girl to the brink of insanity. They then constantly briefed ther friends in the press that she was an unhinged basket case - thats sick imo.
I think that the behaviour of the Royals at the time of her death, and the fact that they didnt shed a tear between them,but not long after, they cried like babies because their yacht was taken out of service, speaks volumes about them.
From what I have seen of William in the press etc. he comes across as a genuine human being (something his idiotic father could never be) and I would like to see him take the throne, when granny pops her clogs. It wont happen though imo. Charles wants it bad, he has been chomping at the bit for years to get the big job.
I feel sorry for the girl though, when the novelty wears off, she will forever be a bird in a gilded cage.
Im not a great Royalist myself, but as Martin Imber mentioned, it is the one thing that prevents us from having someone like Bliar install himself as president. ;)
Mr Albs there, speaking from the 1890's and now.....the weather ;D
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I certainly would not stand for the national anthem if she became queen. Old tart.
but if you were standing, you'd be standing for the King, not the Queen ..... who ever that might be.
Eventually. But when Charles becomes king, the wembley faithful will take forever to remember to change the words, so I'm staying sat. ;D ;D ;D