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Title: Ireland house prices
Post by: Banjax on 21 November 2010, 09:47:05
are 60% down from where they were 2 years ago, on average for most homeowners  :o :o

just a fact thrown out by the radio just now - is that right?? maybe he said 16?
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 21 November 2010, 09:49:47
Have the Emeralds all gone now then? ?  :-?
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Brick Tamland on 21 November 2010, 09:51:59
Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: hoody on 21 November 2010, 09:52:40
Jedward must have returned home ;D
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 21 November 2010, 10:14:41
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Banjax on 21 November 2010, 10:18:44
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y

do I detect a note of cynicism towards capitalism  creeping into your posts lately Zulu?  ::)
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 21 November 2010, 10:21:29
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y

do I detect a cynicism towards capitalism  creeping into your posts lately Zulu?  ::)

It's always been there BJ.

Signed: Guardiad reader from the 1970's :y
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 November 2010, 10:22:50
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y

do I detect a note of cynicism towards capitalism  creeping into your posts lately Zulu?  ::)

 ::)

yep.. my radars detect the same signal :)
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Pitchfork on 21 November 2010, 10:24:47
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Jedward must have returned home ;D
For which the nation would be forever grateful
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Banjax on 21 November 2010, 10:24:56
hmmm...now i'm picturing Zulu as a sandal wearing tree-hugger in the 70's  ;D :y
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Nickbat on 21 November 2010, 11:10:58
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y


Rather it shows the perverseness of a country being saddled with an excessively low (ECB) interest rate and being able to do absolutely nothing about it.  :(
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 November 2010, 11:28:02
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y

do I detect a note of cynicism towards capitalism  creeping into your posts lately Zulu?  ::)



I detected that too BJ.... ::) ::).....Perhaps Zulu will come and join us on the socialist side of the street soon. ::) ::)........Or perhaps not.. ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 November 2010, 11:32:20
here is a saying which can be translated as

"hungry chicken deems itself in the granary"  ;D ;D

actually the system with all those kinds of easy credits from the banks, fools the people to see that dream.. but when the times come to pay,  their incomes are mostly inadequate and the results are disaster :(

and  the story is no different for countries A or B.. :-/

and add to that even the country ministers , politicians and even the banks are in the same dream you will end up with the same scenario..
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 21 November 2010, 11:58:32
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y


Rather it shows the perverseness of a country being saddled with an excessively low (ECB) interest rate and being able to do absolutely nothing about it.  :(

Perhaps Nick, but the fundamental remains:  Houses are for living in - not for investment or the desire to profit at all costs. (In my view)
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 November 2010, 12:08:31
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y


Rather it shows the perverseness of a country being saddled with an excessively low (ECB) interest rate and being able to do absolutely nothing about it.  :(

Perhaps Nick, but the fundamental remains:  Houses are for living in - not for investment or the desire to profit at all costs. (In my view)

capitalism says that where there is a cost or capital investment there must be a profit ;D

[provoking Zulu ;D]
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 21 November 2010, 13:21:33
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y


Rather it shows the perverseness of a country being saddled with an excessively low (ECB) interest rate and being able to do absolutely nothing about it.  :(

Perhaps Nick, but the fundamental remains:  Houses are for living in - not for investment or the desire to profit at all costs. (In my view)


In the first instance that is true, but given that homes are purchased by those that have been fairly rewarded for their labour there is no reason why their investment should not grow which produces further return on their work and an ever improving status.  If all homes had limited value, or perhaps none at all (given that all property is theft through some eyes), the incentive to work to better your family and oneself would not exist, and a lot of people connected to property development would be out of work.  In addition who wants to live in homes that all look the same and are of basic design?   ;) ;)
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Banjax on 21 November 2010, 14:06:11
If we all built each others houses based on peoples value to society then doctors, nurses, police, firemen, soldiers would live in mansions whilst footballers, politicians, bankers and celebrities would live in huts.


True story.
 :y
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 21 November 2010, 14:44:12
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Yep thats right.  :(

They were so over inflated, my economics lecturer said how retarded it was that for the money to buy a terraced house in the centre of Dublin you could buy a beach house in Malibu  :P



Yep, that shows the perverseness of a system that supports the belief that one should buy a house for investment purposes rather than to live in. :y


Rather it shows the perverseness of a country being saddled with an excessively low (ECB) interest rate and being able to do absolutely nothing about it.  :(

Perhaps Nick, but the fundamental remains:  Houses are for living in - not for investment or the desire to profit at all costs. (In my view)


In the first instance that is true, but given that homes are purchased by those that have been fairly rewarded for their labour there is no reason why their investment should not grow which produces further return on their work and an ever improving status.  If all homes had limited value, or perhaps none at all (given that all property is theft through some eyes), the incentive to work to better your family and oneself would not exist, and a lot of people connected to property development would be out of work.  In addition who wants to live in homes that all look the same and are of basic design?   ;) ;)



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the incentive to work to better your family and oneself would not exist

That does undoubtedly happen Lizzie however would the content of the individual – their drivel, determination and so on - not help to surpass that inclination?

Many people in rented accommodation private or otherwise are just as motivated to better their conditions even though they may never have any tangible benefit in terms of being able to own their own home.

The materialistic emphasis on the way many of us live today has put some into financial distress - none more than those who struggle to pay a mortgage on a property valued far in excess of its true worth.

The hype (and desire for profit) generated by those in property development and sales has partially created this disparity in property value to the extent where many who would like to own their own home can't because of the cost.

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In addition who wants to live in homes that all look the same and are of basic design?

Again, I can see that but there should be nothing to demand an imaginatively designed property to be priced at a point that seeks to extract the maximum profit from it.
Title: Re: Ireland house prices
Post by: Nickbat on 21 November 2010, 15:50:58
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Again, I can see that but there should be nothing to demand an imaginatively designed property to be priced at a point that seeks to extract the maximum profit from it.

Houses are priced at levels the market can bear. It is set purely by demand. The last three decades or so has seen a huge rise in UK population, but house supply has not kept pace. Demand exceeds supply. Simples. ;)