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Title: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 08:17:45
....or are they still a bit........you know? :)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 November 2010, 09:03:17
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....or are they still a bit........you know? :)

as in  8-)

or  :-/  ?
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 09:13:23
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....or are they still a bit........you know? :)

as in  8-)

or  :-/  ?

well, if you have to ask Mr Skrunts  :y

I was reflecting on Jeremy Clarksons claim a few years back that all the knobbers have moved into Audis....and it does seem to be the case based on going up and down the A9 every day, obviously the X3,5 and 6's are still untouchable-even if I had the money....likewise anything that has a cardboard boot and carbon fibre roof to save weight, yet its driven by a guy 3 stone overweight still makes me smile...bless  :y


anyway i fancy another large RWD estate and decent migs seem a bit pricey these days so, looking at the choices you've got Mercs, Beemers, Volvo V90's or Omegas and er...thats it  :-/
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: mantahatch on 22 November 2010, 09:18:00
I would think as long as use the indicators and remember there are 2 other lanes on the motorways, and be more courteous than others then it would be acceptable.

There is not to much wrong with them it just appears to be the type of people who generally drive them. I know that is lumping them all in the same basket. But when everyone you follow has no working indicators then it is justified to do this.  ;D

Oh and whether you can live with the looks of the newer one's is entirely up to you, I know I could not.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 09:19:45
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I would think as long as use the indicators and remember there are 2 other lanes on the motorways, and be more courteous than others then it would be acceptable.

There is not to much wrong with them it just appears to be the type of people who generally drive them. I know that is lumping them all in the same basket. But when everyone you follow has no working indicators then it is justified to do this.  ;D

Oh and whether you can live with the looks of the newer one's is entirely up to you, I know I could not.

New ones are well outside the Banjax coffers I'm afraid  :y
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Del Boy on 22 November 2010, 09:24:29
I drive two, so my answer is obvious  ;D
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 November 2010, 09:28:47
I used to love the old Beemers.

I part learned to drive in a 72 2500 Auto whuch was great at 17 years old and I think is the reason behind me likeing the auto's and 6 cyclinder.

But them had an R plate 320 followed by W plate 323i (upto when my Dad passed away in 82)  Both my brother and myself have allways said we would have a BMW a piece, but the only one he has fancied was the 850i and I went off them years ago, the last one I actually liked was arround the x reg 535i with the twin exhaust in the middle (early 80's)

Have looked at the odd 735 since but dont seem value for money that the Omega Elite is.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: feeutfo on 22 November 2010, 09:51:18
rather NO!
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: jonnycool on 22 November 2010, 09:57:33
There nothing wrong with Beemers, I'd love to have one  :y
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 22 November 2010, 10:06:57
Should you wish to fund this one for me BJ, I will gladly drive it.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-840-Coupe-Ci-Sport-/270629527990?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f02c6e1b6
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: feeutfo on 22 November 2010, 10:20:18
There are several things wrong with beemers, very wrong, and that's before the driver even gets in it...
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: bigegg on 22 November 2010, 10:28:43
A sales rep for a company I worked for came out with the folllowing:

"Nowt wrong with BMWs, but they're a bit like a sh**ty smell.
Every a*s*hole seems to have one."
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 November 2010, 10:36:16
Thing is, these days if I were going to consider 5/6k on a beemer I would rather go get another Elite and spend the rest on this.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201036367707586/sort/priceasc/usedcars/engine-size-cars/5lplus/model/corvette/make/chevrolet/radius/1500/page/1/postcode/s662hb?logcode=p
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 November 2010, 10:39:55
I never thought I'd say this, but, in order to preserve your image, I think you should choose a Volvo instead. ;D

Kevin
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 11:33:25
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I never thought I'd say this, but, in order to preserve your image, I think you should choose a Volvo instead. ;D

Kevin
;D ;D ;D

yes - i think i'm old enough to pull one off....now all i need is a beard and sandals  :y

Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 11:34:40
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Should you wish to fund this one for me BJ, I will gladly drive it.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-840-Coupe-Ci-Sport-/270629527990?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f02c6e1b6

i love the 800's but you'd need that amount again to keep it on the road, probably  :(
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 22 November 2010, 11:35:39
Well after having one for a few days recently, what can I say?!! ::) ::) ::)

Whilst driving it though I made every effort not to be a typical BMW driver.  I always indicated, I gave way to others, I was totally considerate to other road users, I overtook only when it was completely safe to do so recognising their were other people using the road........................ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Sorry Del :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: tunnie on 22 November 2010, 11:40:54
i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 12:45:11
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i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...

if money was no object....you'd buy a diesel? petroleum fuelled M5 surely Tunnie?  ;)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: jonnycool on 22 November 2010, 12:49:45
Any experts' review of nearly every BMW will be a good one, and more often than not, will beat their closest rivals. Now that's not crap by any stretch of the imagination
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: smithpa7 on 22 November 2010, 12:52:45
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i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...

I would prefer the auto. My 530d auto was a fantastic car. I am saving up for one, how long that will take is unknown :'( :'(
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 22 November 2010, 12:56:35
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Any experts' review of nearly every BMW will be a good one, and more often than not, will beat their closest rivals. Now that's not crap by any stretch of the imagination

yep, I'd love to love them but I'm not BMW material.....i'm not in IT or accounts for one thing  ;D
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 22 November 2010, 13:13:34
In all seriousness I must admit in the absence of any suitable other replacement for the Omega, I will go for a Merc or BMW in the future  ;)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: tunnie on 22 November 2010, 13:38:03
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i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...

if money was no object....you'd buy a diesel? petroleum fuelled M5 surely Tunnie?  ;)

Money no object humm? Then it goes to silly cars! If i win the lottery then yes an M5 please!

But if i just have a few quid to spend, my ideal next car would be either 535d Sport, Monaro VXR if my millage is low or Audi A8 3.0d
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2010, 13:43:43
Some of the old models had a certain charm.......I'm thinking of the BMW 2002tii.....from the early seventies.

BMW make some excellent cars ....but the new models are too footballers/WAG's....for me...
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Omega_Dan on 22 November 2010, 13:46:08
I have had 2 E34 525ISE 95 and a 96 and for me it is my favourite of all the 90's BM's.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 November 2010, 14:17:54
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yep, I'd love to love them but I'm not BMW material.....i'm not in IT or accounts for one thing  ;D

I thought BMWs were more for Estate agents and assistant junior ("I'm such a mug I topped up my allowance out of my own pocket to drive this POS 1 series")  sales executives? ;D

Oh, no. Estate agents all drive Minis now, of course. A BMW that is more compatible with their feminine side. ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: bluey on 22 November 2010, 15:41:49
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Any experts' review of nearly every BMW will be a good one, and more often than not, will beat their closest rivals. Now that's not crap by any stretch of the imagination

BMW motors are far from being rubbish, just look at the investment they make in their R&D, but I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to reviews.  These days I think there is a bit of a sheep mentality, and you'll always end up disagreeing with their comments on some aspects when you come to try a car for yourself.  I remember reading about the Saab 9000 in a mag (this was long before the interweb)and the ABS was described as having a gentle pulse at the pedal.  The hack must have been wearing moon boots, it was like standing on a jack hammer! ;D

Ironically, I do remember one review with the Omega tested against the 5 series.  I think it was a facelift versus the E34, which back then was easily the best in its sector (still a damned good car now), and coming out very well in comparison. 
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 November 2010, 16:15:45
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Any experts' review of nearly every BMW will be a good one, and more often than not, will beat their closest rivals. Now that's not crap by any stretch of the imagination

BMW motors are far from being rubbish, just look at the investment they make in their R&D, but I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to reviews.  These days I think there is a bit of a sheep mentality, and you'll always end up disagreeing with their comments on some aspects when you come to try a car for yourself.  I remember reading about the Saab 9000 in a mag (this was long before the interweb)and the ABS was described as having a gentle pulse at the pedal.  The hack must have been wearing moon boots, it was like standing on a jack hammer! ;D

Ironically, I do remember one review with the Omega tested against the 5 series.  I think it was a facelift versus the E34, which back then was easily the best in its sector (still a damned good car now), and coming out very well in comparison. 

Yeah, look at the money and the fantastic concept cars that Peugot and Citroen build, they never end up on the road though.


As for BMW they dont invest in R+D like they used to.  Our 320 for example had a curved an twisted cover over the speedo/rev counter etx to stop glare from other lighting affecting the driver, cant see them doing that these days.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: geoffr70 on 22 November 2010, 16:20:21
the saloons are bloody ugly though

so are the x versions!

Q: Why would you buy an X3?
A: Because you can't afford an X5!! ;D :D
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 22 November 2010, 16:37:53
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Some of the old models had a certain charm.......I'm thinking of the BMW 2002tii.....from the early seventies.

BMW make some excellent cars ....but the new models are too footballers/WAG's....for me...

Nice motor.

My 2 favs were the odd ball M1 and the 72 3.0 CSi they went like stink

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&gl=uk&biw=880&bih=409&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=bmw+m1&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&gl=uk&biw=880&bih=409&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=bmw+3.0+csi&aq=2&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=bmw+3.0+cs&gs_rfai=

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&gl=uk&biw=880&bih=409&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=1972+bmw+3.0+csi&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=


Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2010, 16:46:17
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Some of the old models had a certain charm.......I'm thinking of the BMW 2002tii.....from the early seventies.

BMW make some excellent cars ....but the new models are too footballers/WAG's....for me...

Nice motor.

My 2 favs were the odd ball M1 and the 72 3.0 CSi they went like stink

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&gl=uk&biw=880&bih=409&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=bmw+m1&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&gl=uk&biw=880&bih=409&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=bmw+3.0+csi&aq=2&aqi=g5&aql=&oq=bmw+3.0+cs&gs_rfai=

http://www.google.co.uk/images?um=1&hl=en&gl=uk&biw=880&bih=409&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=1972+bmw+3.0+csi&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=




Yeah ...an elegant classic this one Skrunts.......not like the dog ugly....3...5...and 7 series we have today.. :y
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2010, 18:02:06
Current BMWs (and MINIs) are poorly made, with a very limited budget.  They are neither particularly reliable or cheap to run.  The last of the good BMWs are now 20yrs old.

BMW lost their prestige in there business plan to become mass market.

The X3 and X5 are utterly hopeless for anything more than the school run, and only get the 4.8 v8 -  everything else is underpowered. Even a 170,000m (admittedly chipped) 3.0l auto Omega shows a 4.8 X5 a clean set of heels. Apparently, as neither me nor my brother would try such a thing on public roads ::)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Del Boy on 22 November 2010, 18:35:45
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i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...

Only auto's young man  :y
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: tunnie on 22 November 2010, 18:46:39
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i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...

Only auto's young man  :y

Bugger! :(
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Amigo on 22 November 2010, 19:28:05
Beemers have got a bad name as many of them today are driven by utter cocks who'se journey is more important than every one elses & have blown indicator fuses. I don't know much about the older 2002ti's suffice to say they're good. Most of the new ones are pig ugly...why is that? New designer? & yes X5's 3's are ridiculous. I've only owned two mid aged Bmw's. The first was a G reg. 318i touring auto which was great except for the autobox which kicked down too late & when it finally did changed up to early. They were all like that you just had to "manual it" if you needed to. The other one was the manual 328i coupe i took to one of the Chester meets. Better bottom end snap acceleration than a 3.0 Mig but less top end. Also a Mig will warn you when it's about to let go on a bend...the 328i won't it just goes & you can get it back but you gotta be quick about it as i found out in the dry.
   Still good cars though. Both had been round the clock & i went up & down the country in both of them without a hiccup.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2010, 20:03:13
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Beemers have got a bad name as many of them today are driven by utter cocks who'se journey is more important than every one elses & have blown indicator fuses. I don't know much about the older 2002ti's suffice to say they're good. Most of the new ones are pig ugly...why is that? New designer? & yes X5's 3's are ridiculous. I've only owned two mid aged Bmw's. The first was a G reg. 318i touring auto which was great except for the autobox which kicked down too late & when it finally did changed up to early. They were all like that you just had to "manual it" if you needed to. The other one was the manual 328i coupe i took to one of the Chester meets. Better bottom end snap acceleration than a 3.0 Mig but less top end. Also a Mig will warn you when it's about to let go on a bend...the 328i won't it just goes & you can get it back but you gotta be quick about it as i found out in the dry.
   Still good cars though. Both had been round the clock & i went up & down the country in both of them without a hiccup.
My brother had a G reg 525, superb car. That must have done 300k+.  Bit disappointing on performance, but true BMW qualities.  Last decent beemer he had (and he is like those gay prats who will only buy Sony TVs (he does that as well ;D), and only buys BMW or MINI).  He has had several beemers since, they have more toys now, and more performance (well, his Alpina and his 540 did have), but have lost something in the process, beyond just reliability and build.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: TheBoy on 22 November 2010, 20:05:38
My Mum still has her K reg 318iS, despite the BMW Dealer's attempts to break it several times.  Apart from the scumbag dealer's made up faults, its been a reliable little runner, despite failing its first every MOT miserably ;D.   This was the car were, imho, things all started to go wrong for BMW.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: millwall on 22 November 2010, 20:17:42
bmw drivers(http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/adam5172/34.gif)
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Vamps on 22 November 2010, 21:37:26
I educated Miss Vamps on the antics of BMW and Volvo drivers after a 4x4 Volvo came up behind me. >:(   I was overtaking a line of traffic in an line of traffic  on the A1 in poor weather he came up behind tailgating and flashing his lights, when we moved over he passed, Miss Vamps wanted me to chase after him flashing my lights..........some things change when you get older.... ::) ::) ::)

She reminded my that one of our friends has a BMW so I changed 'All' for 'Most'....... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: mrgreen on 22 November 2010, 21:48:59
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i'd have a 535d manual if i had the cash...

if money was no object....you'd buy a diesel? petroleum fuelled M5 surely Tunnie?  ;)

Money no object humm? Then it goes to silly cars! If i win the lottery then yes an M5 please!

But if i just have a few quid to spend, my ideal next car would be either 535d Sport, Monaro VXR if my millage is low or Audi A8 3.0d

I doubt you would have to worry too much about the mileage on that great beast! as long as it's well maintained.
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 23 November 2010, 08:55:37
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Some of the old models had a certain charm.......I'm thinking of the BMW 2002tii.....from the early seventies.

BMW make some excellent cars ....but the new models are too footballers/WAG's....for me...


I refer to this every now and again and do so once more for Opti.

This 2002Tii was my second car (first was a 1602) after passing my test.

It was a great little car.



(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/Catdracula/scan0001-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 November 2010, 09:36:57
Mate of mine has a nice 2002. And he told me last week that he's added a 635CSi to the collection. :-* Must pay him a visit.

.. any more modern BMW does nothing for me though.

Kevin
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 23 November 2010, 09:50:19
(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m411/bannjaxx/LAT2005101308824_PV.jpg)

BMW 3.0 CSL or "Batmobile" as it was dubbed due to its enormous rear wing (which doesn't seem to be working in this pic at the Nurburgring - epic race car  :y
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: bluey on 23 November 2010, 14:08:36
The 3.0CSL/CSi were very pretty, when I were a lad and it were all fields round here a friend's father had one in that light metallic blue which showed off all the chrome.  He absolutely pampered that car, parked it in the middle of a double garage as I recall so nothing else could get in!

But for me there was one big coupe that was just too beautiful for words. 

(http://www.jagweb.com/vicarage/lib_xjc_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it OK to drive a BMW yet....
Post by: Banjax on 23 November 2010, 14:35:59
yep bluey - still looks good  :y

i've posted this pic before, but you've given me a perfect excuse

(http://i334.photobucket.com/albums/m411/bannjaxx/jaguar_xj_bigcat_b3.jpg)

Steed's wide-arch Jag coupe from The Avengers  :P