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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Xplicit 2.0 on 24 November 2010, 15:45:39
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why is it that people see all modified cars as being "boy racers" and think they all drive saxo's?
i know this may seem pathetic but, as a modified car enthusiast, its really starting to bug me. I've seen a few posts on here recently that refer to modified car owners as "chavs" and "yoofs" (or as i like to say "YOUTHS") and all of them driving saxo's!
Im 21, i love my modified cars. I drive an Omega and yes it is modified. no i DO NOT sit in a car park attempting to drift or do burn outs in attempt that the opposite sex my find me slightly "cool".
let me put it this way, a local car club here, Dorset Scoobys, mainly consist of members that are 30+ (from what i have seen, it may not be the case the people i hav seen hav their kids with them)
They have flamers on their exhausts and loud sound systems. I have seen more people in that age group act more of a T*** on the roads than i have young drivers. (i AM NOT refering to anyone from Dorset Scoobys)
Why is there a generalisation of "look a modified car, the owner must be a chav"?
Im not a "chav", i dont try to impress the opposite sex with how loud my car is, or how "cool" it looks.
My car does have a loud exhaust, but i like the sound of it. My car has a cold air feed a. to give my car a little bit more go and b. i like how it sounds. i have a fairly loud sound system because i like my music and love bass. At the moment i am currently doing a lighting install on my car to draw attention to other enthusiasts, mainly to do with my work but, its different.
MOST people modify their car to make them different to others. mines going to hav so many LED's on it, it will be hard to look at.
So basicly, i am fed up with people saying young people driving modified cars are "chavs" and instantly assume they will or have been in many crashes, will sit in car parks acting like T***s
Yes there are some that are the above, and its the very few minority that have given the rest of us this absolute utter bs image because they feel the need to be cool and try to impress the opposite sex.
rant over, feel better now :)
feel free to have your say on this :y :y
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Don't worry Xplicit us older folk certainly do not think all you youngsters drive and act like "boy / girl racer"!! :y :y
We, and certainly I, were once your age and of all the people I knew none modified their cars or raced them. It is no different now from what I can see, the young can just afford to run the car they have (just like we did), especially with insurance as it is!! :o :o :o Obviously you do see a minority who 'soup up' their cars a bit, but the vast majority just drive normal, everyday cars, and my generation think nothing more than that as far as I am concerned 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Once more, we were all young once!! Enjoy it whilst you can :D :D :D :D :y
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I have no problem with people modding cars to look individual as long as they're still safe, legal, taxed, MOT'd and insured :y
In my experience a beautifully modded car is more likely to be well looked after and carefully driven (and insured) than some ratty old banger on 4 bald tyres ;)
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I have no problem with people modding cars to look individual as long as they're still safe, legal, taxed, MOT'd and insured :y
In my experience a beautifully modded car is more likely to be well looked after and carefully driven (and insured) than some ratty old banger on 4 bald tyres ;)
That reminds me, did you get round to buying those tyres for your Subaru?
:) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;) The yoofs in Bala at night, do all drive Saxo`s and most (if not all) drive like boy racers....I can only 'take as I find'. :P
;)..... :-*
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I have no problem with people modding cars to look individual as long as they're still safe, legal, taxed, MOT'd and insured
agreed i couldnt give a monkeys what people do to their cars i have friends in their forties with modded cars there not chavs although i must admit i do like a laugh at some of the saxos out there especially on barryboys ;D
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The problem is, "modified" cars are a bit of a "Marmite" thing. Folk will either appreciate it or think it's sad and pointless.
It's probably not helped (in my opinion) by the fact that a lot of modified cars draw attention to themselves by having been rendered illegal in some respect or by being driven inconsiderately. :(
As with so many things in life, a few cretins can spoil it for the majority.
Kevin
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I have no problem with people modding cars to look individual as long as they're still safe, legal, taxed, MOT'd and insured :y
In my experience a beautifully modded car is more likely to be well looked after and carefully driven (and insured) than some ratty old banger on 4 bald tyres ;)
That reminds me, did you get round to buying those tyres for your Subaru?
:) ;D ;D ;D ;D
as the wife uses it mostly - its more a skip on wheels than a car to be honest :(
;D ;D :y
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I've modified my car, I've put the 'go faster' stripes on back to front, so that everyone can see I now go slower......
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...........chavs and chav nots. :D ;D
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Well you said feel free to have my say. So I will.
There's a reason why cars like the Saxo/Corsa/206 etc are labelled as chav chariots. Their relative cheapness puts them in reach of spotty, tone-deaf oxygen thieving streaks of piss, while their cringeingly bad so-called modifying antics merely mirror their low intelligence and continuing waste of the planet's natural resources. Slapping tint on glass & lights, shoving a drainpipe on the end of the exhaust and gaffer taping lights onto the floorpan ain't modifying, it's just conspicuous consumption of tat made by people working ridiculous hours in the Far East. Cutting three inches off the spings ain't modifying, it's a demonstration of utter ignorance of suspension dynamics. Throwing in wire-melting amplifiers ain't modifying, it's a complete lack of appreciation of ICE and how to really appreciate music irrespective of your tastes.
Modifying just ain't what it was........ ;)
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Well you said feel free to have my say. So I will.
There's a reason why cars like the Saxo/Corsa/206 etc are labelled as chav chariots. Their relative cheapness puts them in reach of spotty, tone-deaf oxygen thieving streaks of piss, while their cringeingly bad so-called modifying antics merely mirror their low intelligence and continuing waste of the plant's natural resources. Slapping tint on glass & lights, shoving a drainpipe on the end of the exhaust and gaffer taping lights onto the floorpan ain't modifying, it's just conspicuous consumption of tat made by people working ridiculous hours in the Far East. Cutting three inches off the spings ain't modifying, it's a demonstration of utter ignorance of suspension dynamics. Throwing in wire-melting amplifiers ain't modifying, it's a complete lack of appreciation of ICE and how to really appreciate music irrespective of your tastes.
Modifying just ain't what it was........ ;)
Stop beating about the bush and give us your frank viewpoint. ;) ;D ;D
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The problem is, "modified" cars are a bit of a "Marmite" thing. Folk will either appreciate it or think it's sad and pointless.
It's probably not helped (in my opinion) by the fact that a lot of modified cars draw attention to themselves by having been rendered illegal in some respect or by being driven inconsiderately. :(
As with so many things in life, a few cretins can spoil it for the majority.
Kevin
Will a Traktor run on Marmite? :o
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i'm looking for a small car for my boy, and he will probably put a chrome tailpipe on it and tinted windows and whatever else he thinks will make it look a bit cool. hes 17 and thats what they do. i was a boy racer, wrote off about 6 cars before i was 21. even rammed a car off the rd once. young and wreckless and happy. who cares what others think. todays youngsters are not a lot different from anyone i know my age who were young once. :)
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Dunno how not to sound like a hypocrite on this one. I'm not into over body kitted Puntos with a baked bean tin hanging off the exhaust, i killed one off the lights with my caravan in tow!!! That said we were all young once. I remember covering most of the interior of my old fords with fur & a chain link steering wheel in my teens so understand bad taste.
At 21 it's fine, enjoy it even if the "music" is pants. Still doing it at 31??? Oh dear! :o ::)
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Dunno how not to sound like a hypocrite on this one. I'm not into over body kitted Puntos with a baked bean tin hanging off the exhaust, i killed one off the lights with my caravan in tow!!! That said we were all young once. I remember covering most of the interior of my old fords with fur & a chain link steering wheel in my teens so understand bad taste.
At 21 it's fine, enjoy it even if the "music" is pants. Still doing it at 31??? Oh dear! :o ::)
You were a pimp? :o ;D
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
Master Vamps is no chav but has a Saxo, I bought it and paid the insurance, he owes me big time...... ::) ::)
OK;
We were all young once........ :-X
I Agree with what Lizzire said...... :o
I agree with what Amigo said...... :y
And why are you not using you car as a babe (or boy, your choice) magnet, that is what you do when you are young......If I remember correctly.... :y :y
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
Master Vamps is no chav but has a Saxo, I bought it and paid the insurance, he owes me big time...... ::) ::)
OK;
We were all young once........ :-X
I Agree with what Lizzire said...... :o
I agree with what Amigo said...... :y
And why are you not using you car as a babe (or boy, your choice) magnet, that is what you do when you are young......If I remember correctly.... :y :y
That never worked for me when I was young, no matter what car I drove :(
I must have been hanging out at the wrong MaccyD's.. ;D
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
Master Vamps is no chav but has a Saxo, I bought it and paid the insurance, he owes me big time...... ::) ::)
OK;
We were all young once........ :-X
I Agree with what Lizzire said...... :o
I agree with what Amigo said...... :y
And why are you not using you car as a babe (or boy, your choice) magnet, that is what you do when you are young......If I remember correctly.... :y :y
That never worked for me when I was young, no matter what car I drove :(
I must have been hanging out at the wrong MaccyD's.. ;D
When I was young it was 'Wimpy Bars' I am pre MaccyD's........ ::) ::) ::)
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
Master Vamps is no chav but has a Saxo, I bought it and paid the insurance, he owes me big time...... ::) ::)
OK;
We were all young once........ :-X
I Agree with what Lizzire said...... :o
I agree with what Amigo said...... :y
And why are you not using you car as a babe (or boy, your choice) magnet, that is what you do when you are young......If I remember correctly.... :y :y
That never worked for me when I was young, no matter what car I drove :(
I must have been hanging out at the wrong MaccyD's.. ;D
When I was young it was 'Wimpy Bars' I am pre MaccyD's........ ::) ::) ::)
bloomin heck, thats going back a bit. had forgot all about them. :o
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When I was young it was 'Wimpy Bars' I am pre MaccyD's........ ::) ::) ::)
According to this pic of you even wimpy wasn't about.....
(http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/1/13839/26_2007/flintstones_ribs2.preview.jpg)
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Only ever seen one Wimpy and that was in central London (Leicester Sq maybe?) 15 years ago or more..
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Only ever seen one Wimpy and that was in central London (Leicester Sq maybe?) 15 years ago or more..
Hartlepool 1972, close to the Royal Navy Recruiting Office..... ::) ::) ::)
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Only ever seen one Wimpy and that was in central London (Leicester Sq maybe?) 15 years ago or more..
Hartlepool 1972, close to the Royal Navy Recruiting Office..... ::) ::) ::)
You got me looking, now.. apparently they are still around: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wimpy_(restaurant)
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I've modified my car, I've put the 'go faster' stripes on back to front, so that everyone can see I now go slower......
What about your rubber crankshaft?
OOPS! Your insurance company might be listening. :-X
Kevin
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
Right there, nail on head, every body starts somewhere to one level or another, and usually first lesson is don't spend money on appearance like spoilers and wheels, then find you have no money left for tyres and oil. Then an engine rebuild because there's no water in it....init! ;)or forgot the cam belt life and it fails, if it doesn't get written off first.
First car, it will get pranged and messed about with, and neglected in all the wrong areas. In short.... learning. We all did it. Even if it's fluffy dice under the mirror, yet how righteous we are.
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My take on this is that some groups have fun with stereotyping and the "Saxo Brigade" is an obvious candidate. If you don't think you fit into that category then stay cool; you're not in it. But you must remember that you are running adjacent to that line of humour and may get some spray off it.
When I think back to the "mods" we all used to do at one point, I cringe. There were the stick-on stripes, the exhaust trim (one Philips screw to attach! ;D), that "chrome" strip you ran down the seams on Minis after soaking it in warm water, wheel spacers, and of course the Peco silencer. Oh Yes, and STP stickers?
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Well you said feel free to have my say. So I will.
There's a reason why cars like the Saxo/Corsa/206 etc are labelled as chav chariots. Their relative cheapness puts them in reach of spotty, tone-deaf oxygen thieving streaks of piss, while their cringeingly bad so-called modifying antics merely mirror their low intelligence and continuing waste of the planet's natural resources. Slapping tint on glass & lights, shoving a drainpipe on the end of the exhaust and gaffer taping lights onto the floorpan ain't modifying, it's just conspicuous consumption of tat made by people working ridiculous hours in the Far East. Cutting three inches off the spings ain't modifying, it's a demonstration of utter ignorance of suspension dynamics. Throwing in wire-melting amplifiers ain't modifying, it's a complete lack of appreciation of ICE and how to really appreciate music irrespective of your tastes.
Modifying just ain't what it was........ ;)
see this is what im getting at. yes you have your opinion and im not arguing with that.... however near enough said that any small car that has been modified (i.e saxo's, 106's etc etc) are all owned by chavs......
And modifiying is what it is to be honest.... everyone has their own tastes on it... even if it is gaffer taping lights to the floor pan. And in my opinion, if i car has been lowered... unless they are doing proper track days and have purposly built their car for fast road/track then a lowered car is simply for the look it gives, they wont care about the dynamics of the suspension.
See thats another thing that really gets on my T**s, people seem to think to have a decent modified car means it has to be really fast........ WRONG! people go into modified cars for various things: Styling, ICE, Performance but most of all, individualism! a modified clapped out old car is more than likely been further made to look like it, the "rat" look. Cars with rolled arches, deep dish rims and over stretched tyres have been made to the "Euro" look. and "Jap" is near enough what it is... jap cars usually done to a performance spec (Drag, Drift, Track)
Rant part 2 over :y :y
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lets face it there ARE a lot a stereotypical chavs about who can only afford a saxo or similar and havent the nouse to know that all the money they have spent on their K&N filters and mongoose exhausts will add virtually nothing to their cars bhp. Nor have they much incling regarding "proper" mods that would enhance their cars performance and handling-let alone much in the way of any aesthetic appreciation ;DThat said they are, literally ,still kids and like all kids have much to learn and much growing up to do. Never forget we were all kids once ourselves! More importantly however, quite a few of these kids, if they continue this interest DO learn, they join clubs and as they get a bit older and earn a bit more they then move on to more expensive cars and they learn the value of money and really look after their pride and joys. We used to have a lot of problems with the "chavs" and their motors on our works carpark at night, pulling donuts, music blasting out, crashing into things and the local residents up in arms because of the noise. These days we get the odd meets from people like the local integra club and they are totally different-well behaved, polite, very knowledgeable about their cars and some of their modded cars are lovely.So, yeh, wouldnt taint all modders with the same brush by any means :y
Master Vamps is no chav but has a Saxo, I bought it and paid the insurance, he owes me big time...... ::) ::)
OK;
We were all young once........ :-X
I Agree with what Lizzire said...... :o
I agree with what Amigo said...... :y
And why are you not using you car as a babe (or boy, your choice) magnet, that is what you do when you are young......If I remember correctly.... :y :y
some females like to think that not all blokes are full of them selves and feel the need to show off.... i like to see myself as proof of that.... plus im spoken for so i have no real need ::) ::) ;D ;D :y :y
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Don't see anything wrong with youngsters modifying their cars for a bit of individualism and think it's probably more of a a hobby to most of them. Let's face it, as young boys nearly all of us had a keen interest in cars and the better looking or faster, the better. I can remember my first car in the 70's - a Ford Anglia that I spent a lot of time "souping up" and modifying. I remember saving up and eventually getting a set of 5.5J Rostyle wheels (a must have in those days) and had slightly larger tyres fitted. Found out I couldn't turn the wheels full lock without hitting the wheel arches. Out came the hacksaw and problem solved! ;D Even in those days, had a large bore noisy exhaust fitted and thought the car sounded the mutts nuts although my parents weren't in agreement!! ::)
So in essence, things haven't really changed that much. ;)
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Ahhhhh Rostyle wheels - the memories. Give me a set of them over those irmscher things any day of the week. :y :D ;D ;D