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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: millwall on 29 November 2010, 13:33:23

Title: ian tomlinson
Post by: millwall on 29 November 2010, 13:33:23
At least there appears to be some sort of justice for Ian and his family. The copper is up on a misconduct hearing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11864361

Title: Re: ian tomlinson
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 29 November 2010, 14:00:21
Yes, I think a hearing into this sad incident is essential.

I know only too well that eye-witness/still and video evidence can only tell part of the story - especially in a widespread dynamic situation such as that which existed on the day - but having watched the video record of how this man was pushed to the ground I fail to see how the officer in question can possibly contest the following;

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He is also accused of using force that "was not necessary, proportionate or reasonable in the circumstances

To me, it was a totally unnecessary vindictive and excessive act and I have policed in full-on riots where one is obliged to use force of varying degrees.
Title: Re: ian tomlinson
Post by: geoffr70 on 29 November 2010, 14:39:30
Agreed millwall. Yes, we the public aren't privvy to the full facts. Are we ever? But certainly going on the short video clip that we all have seen in the media, it appears to be a disgraceful gratuitous use of unnecessary and excessive force, against someone who posed no threat.

I wonder what would've happened if it was the other way round?

Where will it end? These terrible things happen all the time, perpetrated by someone in public office, then nothing of any substance ever seems to happen after, apart from talking shops where nothing much is achieved.

The poor man.
Title: Re: ian tomlinson
Post by: millwall on 29 November 2010, 15:47:52
To me, it was a totally unnecessary vindictive and excessive act and I have policed in full-on riots where one is obliged to use force of varying degrees.


nice to hear that from someone who has been on the frontline :y     i admit it must be tough for the police in these circumstances  but  this was disgraceful :(
Title: Re: ian tomlinson
Post by: Elite Pete on 29 November 2010, 16:22:36
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

What would have happened if a member of the public had given a police officer a dig in the back hard enough to lift them off there feet and possibly contributed to their death, I bet that member of public wouldn't have seen the light of day for a very long time >:(
Title: Re: ian tomlinson
Post by: redelitev6 on 29 November 2010, 17:15:58
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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

What would have happened if a member of the public had given a police officer a dig in the back hard enough to lift them off there feet and possibly contributed to their death, I bet that member of public wouldn't have seen the light of day for a very long time >:(
:y very very true
Title: Re: ian tomlinson
Post by: CaptainZok on 29 November 2010, 17:44:09
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Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

What would have happened if a member of the public had given a police officer a dig in the back hard enough to lift them off there feet and possibly contributed to their death, I bet that member of public wouldn't have seen the light of day for a very long time >:(
They'd have met Timbuk and Big Winston by now no doubt. ;D