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Title: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 28 November 2010, 21:40:33
pratt    today whilst at my sons footie match  there was a group of 6 muslim parents from the opposing team standing next to us  and spouting off how they will take over this country and loads more  after 20 mins they were saying loudly how as a race the english people are weak pathetic and our wives and children will be their slaves   so i told them to give it a rest  he told me where to go and a few other bits and pieces   so i got the hump and headbutted him  and he was unconcious police were called  and i was questioned for 3 hours     and released on bail    i dont know why i reacted like that  do i regret doing it  well no to be honest   did it make me feel better   yes    would i do it again  yes    but now i think about it what sort of person does that make me  and no im not racist  :(
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: tidla on 28 November 2010, 21:46:52
posted about the antics of sunday football a few weeks ago.
hassle from anyone is not wanted regardless  who they are. :-?

edit. if it had been you chanting, im pretty sure you would have been arrested before the escalating altercation.
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 28 November 2010, 21:52:44
yep sunday football can be a nightmare   last week  our referee was beaten up after the game by opposing parents  unfortunately we had all left so he was on his own
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 November 2010, 09:05:55
You did nothing wrong

Spouting shit like that is stupid - he now has learnt a lesson
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Martin_1962 on 30 November 2010, 09:13:28
I come across quite a few people from the Indian sub continent via work, and none of them have been horrible or nasty, all have been decent likeable people.

I wish these MF types (think NF and change National to....) would FOAD.
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Xplicit 2.0 on 30 November 2010, 10:33:46
i would have done the same millwall.... its complete utter disrespect! makes me so angry its unreal!
and i agree that people like that should FOAD! Im not racist, never have been and never well be, i hate it just as much as violence towards women. But when idiots do that purposely to provoke a reaction they deserve everything they get back end of
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Richie London on 30 November 2010, 10:55:03
we had a few come in the pub last season, telling the manager to turn the tv over so they could watch the other match, who the break do these people think they are. if they never left they would of left through the windows. havent been back since. after whats happened to my kids in the last yr and the polices attitude towards it i am becoming more and more rascist. my youngest starts a new school wed after being out for 2 months due to a group of them threatening him with knives for his phone. police passed it under the table yet again.  >:( >:(
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: albitz on 30 November 2010, 11:24:56
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Millwall. Explain to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think people who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 November 2010, 11:30:08
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Millwall. Explaint to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think peole who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y


Agreed Albs! :y :y  Speak to the local Police Hate Crime Unit who should view the lead up to your misdemeanor as a hate crime, with hopefully this never going to court as you were sorely provoked.  Were there any independant witnesses to the abuse given out to you Millwall and others?  If so they may take action against this nasty group.
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: albitz on 30 November 2010, 11:33:34
That may be the problem. If there are no independent witnesses, I fear Millwall may be in deep s**t. :(
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 November 2010, 11:35:51
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That may be the problem. If there are no independent witnesses, I fear Millwall may be in deep s**t. :(


That is a real pity.  However, still speak to the local Hate Crime Unit Millwall, or contact this number: 0300 123 1212
This is the Met's Police hate crime reporting number and they may still be able to help you on the information and descriptions available. ;)
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 12:13:18
thanks for all the support and advice guys   well i went to the police station this morning  i have 11 witnesses one of which is a referee who was nearby  and there will be NO charges pursued and the police are investigating them for racial hatred  i must say the police were brilliant  i was very worried about today but it seems common sense has prevailed    i must also say 7 miles on my mountain bike each way was not much fun i became a target for every kid with a snowball ;D ;D   the policeman who was dealing with it did ring me this morning to say i could come another day due to the weather but wanted to get it over with  and he was quite impressed i cycled there        on the other side i dont reccomend any one else do what i did as it may not work out so well :y
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Richie London on 30 November 2010, 12:22:24
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thanks for all the support and advice guys   well i went to the police station this morning  i have 11 witnesses one of which is a referee who was nearby  and there will be NO charges pursued and the police are investigating them for racial hatred  i must say the police were brilliant  i was very worried about today but it seems common sense has prevailed    i must also say 7 miles on my mountain bike each way was not much fun i became a target for every kid with a snowball ;D ;D   the policeman who was dealing with it did ring me this morning to say i could come another day due to the weather but wanted to get it over with  and he was quite impressed i cycled there        on the other side i dont reccomend any one else do what i did as it may not work out so well :y


great news millwall, the powers be are hopefully waking up to this now and are saying enoughs enough.this country is starting to unite and give it time and they will wish they lived somewhere else.
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 November 2010, 12:37:21
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thanks for all the support and advice guys   well i went to the police station this morning  i have 11 witnesses one of which is a referee who was nearby  and there will be NO charges pursued and the police are investigating them for racial hatred  i must say the police were brilliant  i was very worried about today but it seems common sense has prevailed    i must also say 7 miles on my mountain bike each way was not much fun i became a target for every kid with a snowball ;D ;D   the policeman who was dealing with it did ring me this morning to say i could come another day due to the weather but wanted to get it over with  and he was quite impressed i cycled there        on the other side i dont reccomend any one else do what i did as it may not work out so well :y


The police / CPS really had to  make that decision in the circumstances, and it is great news Millwall that common sense did prevail :y :y

Their Hate Crime unit will hopefully get fully involved now, as I know all those units are very keen to tackle this type of problem.  All too often individuals get away with the incident you describe and that gives a false picture in the stats, let alone fails to stop the problem.
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Banjax on 30 November 2010, 12:49:37
totally agree with you Millwall.



you have been a pratt  ;D





If you can't behave like a civilised person, don't leave the house until you're ready to not violently assault someone, thats my advice  ::)
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: albitz on 30 November 2010, 12:51:58
Get your teeth into the issue Millwall, insist that charges are brought. Any sign of the race hate crime being swept under the carpet, contact your MP and anyone else you can think of who may be able to help. :y
Very glad for your sake that there were plenty of witnesses, otherwise it could easily have been you being charged with hate crimes, GBH and god knows what else. ;)
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Richie London on 30 November 2010, 12:55:03
just hope you get a good result when you play SLady bitshorpe on saturday  ;)
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 12:59:18
no i think you are wrong in every way banjax...why should some one take that sort of abuse...same could be said for the scum that takes 52 people on the underground network and blows them to kingdom come
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: skyblue on 30 November 2010, 13:05:55
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just hope you get a good result when you play SLady bitshorpe on saturday  ;)


Why, whats poor SLady bitshorpe done to upset you then.... Im more that happy with our 3 points we took off them last sat :D ;D

Wall, fair play to u. These vile creatures needed teaching a lesson and by the sounds of it they got what was coming to them. lets hope the Police now throw the book at them for provoking the situation to the level it got too >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Banjax on 30 November 2010, 13:06:59
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no i think you are wrong in every way banjax...why should some one take that sort of abuse...same could be said for the scum that takes 52 people on the underground network and blows them to kingdom come


thats quite a leap there, sparky  :-?

how do you go from verbal abuse to mass murder so quickly? I'm not condoning the behaviour of the idiots chanting their hateful messages, but grow up and be a man - you left the playground years ago surely? as did millwall i presume :o
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: albitz on 30 November 2010, 13:25:58
The best course of action would have been to film them on a mobile and then report it to the Police. Its easy to say that in the cold light of day though. If I had been in the same situation - listening to them boasting that my wife and children would soon be thier slaves etc. I think tbh I would have paid a quick visit to the boot of my car and then introduced them to my little friend - Billy the bat.
We cant all be expected to behave like Zen Buddhists in the face of extreme provacation. ;)
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: the alarming man on 30 November 2010, 13:29:15
no leap there at all as i said in a previous post we are showing tolerence to a intolerent group and prehaps if there were more like millwill who stand up for his rights we would
'nt have this stupidness of idiots chanting racist rubbish
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Psychoca on 30 November 2010, 13:33:29
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Millwall. Explaint to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think peole who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y


Agreed Albs! :y :y  Speak to the local Police Hate Crime Unit who should view the lead up to your misdemeanor as a hate crime, with hopefully this never going to court as you were sorely provoked.  Were there any independant witnesses to the abuse given out to you Millwall and others?  If so they may take action against this nasty group.


Sadly, the racism laws are such that they are non-reversable...  So, they are able to say what they like, but, you cannot say or do anything that may be considered Racist...
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 November 2010, 13:40:31
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Millwall. Explaint to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think peole who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y


Agreed Albs! :y :y  Speak to the local Police Hate Crime Unit who should view the lead up to your misdemeanor as a hate crime, with hopefully this never going to court as you were sorely provoked.  Were there any independant witnesses to the abuse given out to you Millwall and others?  If so they may take action against this nasty group.


Sadly, the racism laws are such that they are non-reversable...  So, they are able to say what they like, but, you cannot say or do anything that may be considered Racist...


That is a myth.   The Police do not, and cannot, see it that way.  The Hate Crime Units operate on the basis of equality and taking action against offenders without prejudice. ;)
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 13:51:07
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Millwall. Explaint to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think peole who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y


Agreed Albs! :y :y  Speak to the local Police Hate Crime Unit who should view the lead up to your misdemeanor as a hate crime, with hopefully this never going to court as you were sorely provoked.  Were there any independant witnesses to the abuse given out to you Millwall and others?  If so they may take action against this nasty group.


Sadly, the racism laws are such that they are non-reversable...  So, they are able to say what they like, but, you cannot say or do anything that may be considered Racist...

times have changed  the officers from the race crime unit told me they now investigate more non white people for racism  and they are investigating the muslims in my case  im going back to the police in 2 weeks so hopefully they will be prosecuted  there were plenty of witnesses  so shouldnt be a problem
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 13:53:00
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just hope you get a good result when you play SLady bitshorpe on saturday  ;)


so do i :y  should be a good game and is live on sat from 5 on sky sports 2   shameless plug ;D   will be there with my son  looking forward to a good day out :y
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 13:55:17
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Millwall. Explaint to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think peole who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y


Agreed Albs! :y :y  Speak to the local Police Hate Crime Unit who should view the lead up to your misdemeanor as a hate crime, with hopefully this never going to court as you were sorely provoked.  Were there any independant witnesses to the abuse given out to you Millwall and others?  If so they may take action against this nasty group.


Sadly, the racism laws are such that they are non-reversable...  So, they are able to say what they like, but, you cannot say or do anything that may be considered Racist...


That is a myth.   The Police do not, and cannot, see it that way.  The Hate Crime Units operate on the basis of equality and taking action against offenders without prejudice. ;)

very true lizzie  the officers i spoke to  very good and to be honest i think they are at last seeing its not only whites that can make racist comments
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 November 2010, 13:56:12
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Millwall. Explaint to the police that you were suffering vile racial abuse, felt very threatened, were outnumbered, panicked and reacted out of character. It seems to work well enough when it is the other way round.
I think peole who speak like this should be deported, and I dont care wether or not they were born here.
Well done mate. :y


Agreed Albs! :y :y  Speak to the local Police Hate Crime Unit who should view the lead up to your misdemeanor as a hate crime, with hopefully this never going to court as you were sorely provoked.  Were there any independant witnesses to the abuse given out to you Millwall and others?  If so they may take action against this nasty group.


Sadly, the racism laws are such that they are non-reversable...  So, they are able to say what they like, but, you cannot say or do anything that may be considered Racist...

times have changed  the officers from the race crime unit told me they now investigate more non white people for racism  and they are investigating the muslims in my case  im going back to the police in 2 weeks so hopefully they will be prosecuted  there were plenty of witnesses  so shouldnt be a problem


Exactly Millwall :y :y

Our Hate Crime Unit with Kent Police makes this statement:

"Are you, or is someone you know, being bullied, harassed or verbally abused? Is this because of your sexual orientation, religion, disability or race?

If so, this is a hate incident and should be reported.

Glad to hear the Met Police are following that policy, which I know they do usually with all vigour! :y :y
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: skyblue on 30 November 2010, 13:56:29
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just hope you get a good result when you play SLady bitshorpe on saturday  ;)


so do i :y  should be a good game and is live on sat from 5 on sky sports 2   shameless plug ;D   will be there with my son  looking to give someone else a dig  to the head  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 14:00:47
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just hope you get a good result when you play SLady bitshorpe on saturday  ;)


so do i :y  should be a good game and is live on sat from 5 on sky sports 2   shameless plug ;D   will be there with my son  looking to give someone else a dig  to the head  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: millwall on 30 November 2010, 14:04:17
Glad to hear the Met Police are following that policy, which I know they do usually with all vigour!


yes lizzie they are    the officers were very nice in that they explained everything and took their time in dealing with the matter   and were happy to truthfully answer any questions i had  so a big :y to met police
Title: Re: ive been a
Post by: skyblue on 30 November 2010, 14:18:36
Its good to hear that kent and the Met are taking these situations  seriously now and I hope that every force applies the same rules while dealing with the same situation.