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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lizzie_Zoom on 09 December 2010, 19:25:58
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Well I decided to take up an offer with my Total Broadband provider, BT, to have a BT Vision box. I have reduced my quaterly bill by £60, I am to pay £6-99 a month for the box, and a one off payment of £15. The box they say is worth £199.
Anyway, I have conected this HD box up to my television with a good quality HDMI cable, with connections to my internet BT Hub, and reset my HD ready tele to the correct aspect. Then I thought how do I know I am getting HD? Does it automatically come through if the individual programme is in HD?
Decided to speak to the technical support department of BT. Explained that I was all connected, so what next?
He said at the moment you cannot receive HD through FREEVIEW, and that will not happen until the big switch off of the analogue signal. If I want to see a programme or film in HD with my BT Vision box I have to download it in advance.....................it can take up to 3 hours to download!! What the FS I shouted!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
So, I said, I have get ready for HD, with your BT Vision Box, and HD ready television, all connected, and with what you have told me it is all a load of rubbish!! He said, well, yes, I hear what you say and cannot disagree with you!!
What's is the f'ing point of the whole set up!! >:( >:( >:(
Right, as some of you will know much of this technology leaves me cold. So, the experts on this forum please tell me if what I have been told is a load of bull, or is true and we are all being conned with HD, my arse!!! >:( >:( >:(
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Freeview HD is generally only available after your area has switched over. Not sure when yours is happening. My area is one of the last due to the transmitter burning down earlier this year. Mine is next September.
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That said, I think they were doing trials on Crystal Palace - not sure if you can pick that up?
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Freeview HD is generally only available after your area has switched over. Not sure when yours is happening. My area is one of the last due to the transmitter burning down earlier this year. Mine is next September.
Right, thanks TB :y :y :y
Our switchover is planned for 2012 apparently ::) ::)
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That said, I think they were doing trials on Crystal Palace - not sure if you can pick that up?
Afraid not. We are on the Dover transmitter.
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That said, I think they were doing trials on Crystal Palace - not sure if you can pick that up?
Afraid not. We are on the Dover transmitter.
Ah - wasn't sure where in Kent you were :y
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA. Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!! ::) ::)
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
Freeview HD (and SKY and Freesat HD) won't be broadcast at 1080p anyway ;)
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA. Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!! ::) ::)
That would make it an HD tv then. HD Ready is not that advanced.
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I don't think the latest BTV boxes do HD broadcast but they play back HD downloaded films
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Well I decided to take up an offer with my Total Broadband provider, BT, to have a BT Vision box. I have reduced my quaterly bill by £60, I am to pay £6-99 a month for the box, and a one off payment of £15. The box they say is worth £199.
Anyway, I have conected this HD box up to my television with a good quality HDMI cable, with connections to my internet BT Hub, and reset my HD ready tele to the correct aspect. Then I thought how do I know I am getting HD? Does it automatically come through if the individual programme is in HD?
Decided to speak to the technical support department of BT. Explained that I was all connected, so what next?
He said at the moment you cannot receive HD through FREEVIEW, and that will not happen until the big switch off of the analogue signal. If I want to see a programme or film in HD with my BT Vision box I have to download it in advance.....................it can take up to 3 hours to download!! What the FS I shouted!! ::) ::) ::) ::)
So, I said, I have get ready for HD, with your BT Vision Box, and HD ready television, all connected, and with what you have told me it is all a load of rubbish!! He said, well, yes, I hear what you say and cannot disagree with you!!
What's is the f'ing point of the whole set up!! >:( >:( >:(
Right, as some of you will know much of this technology leaves me cold. So, the experts on this forum please tell me if what I have been told is a load of bull, or is true and we are all being conned with HD, my arse!!! >:( >:( >:(
Lizzie !!! such language from - a lady as well
don't blame you though - this vagueness has been used to sell a lot of HD type kit
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA. Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!! ::) ::)
1080p is full HD, 1080i isn't (its HD ready), Liz :y
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I think you've found out that BT wouldn't be the first port of call for broadcast 'HD' Lizzie.
In the absence of Freesat you need to look at either Sky or Virgin.
Even so, the broadcast material won't be in 1080P - commonly referred to as full HD and many programmes will be nothing more that electronically up-scaled or 1080i.
That's not to say that the technology isn't worth the effort use. While there is quite a lot of dross on multi-channel television (where a lot of 'HD' content resides) when a programme suits the format - production values, subject matter and so on - the results are very pleasing indeed.
As far as your BT installation is concerned you'll just have to wait for a while to get broadcast 'HD' material. Unfortunately it also takes an age to download on most BB connections so it's not a particularly convenient way of watching this in my view.
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My Baird 405 line, monochrome tele-visual receiving set, only shows 'snow'......`blinking weather channel! ;D
I`m thinking of updating to a super-het. VHF `set.....when this new-fangled gubbins becomes available. :y
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My Baird 405 line, monochrome tele-visual receiving set, only shows 'snow'......`blinking weather channel! ;D
I`m thinking of updating to a super-het. VHF `set.....when this new-fangled gubbins becomes available. :y
I must admit that I do miss a knob (or two) to fiddle with - buttons simply aren't as rewarding an experience. :( :( :(
And as for the glowing allure of a warm inviting valve - Oh the humanity.
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Freesat and Sky use the same cluster
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA. Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!! ::) ::)
1080p is full HD, 1080i isn't (its HD ready), Liz :y
Thanks BJ :y :y
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I think you've found out that BT wouldn't be the first port of call for broadcast 'HD' Lizzie.
In the absence of Freesat you need to look at either Sky or Virgin.
Even so, the broadcast material won't be in 1080P - commonly referred to as full HD and many programmes will be nothing more that electronically up-scaled or 1080i.
That's not to say that the technology isn't worth the effort use. While there is quite a lot of dross on multi-channel television (where a lot of 'HD' content resides) when a programme suits the format - production values, subject matter and so on - the results are very pleasing indeed.
As far as your BT installation is concerned you'll just have to wait for a while to get broadcast 'HD' material. Unfortunately it also takes an age to download on most BB connections so it's not a particularly convenient way of watching this in my view.
Thanks for the info Zulu, but I do not want Virgin or Sky bills ::) ::) :y
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My Baird 405 line, monochrome tele-visual receiving set, only shows 'snow'......`blinking weather channel! ;D
I`m thinking of updating to a super-het. VHF `set.....when this new-fangled gubbins becomes available. :y
Yes Debs and only two channels! It was sooooo much easier ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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I believe Freeview HD channels are available in London, but you won't get 1080 on an HD Ready tv. Only down-converted to 760 by the tele.
Mine is 1080 - Panasonic VIERA. Or am I confused yet again with all this new tech rubbish??!! ::) ::)
1080p is full HD, 1080i isn't (its HD ready), Liz :y
Thanks BJ :y :y
Except 1080i ISN'T HD Ready. HD Ready was a brand created to lure people into buying tvs that were not up to displaying the HDTV resolution planned, of 1080 vertical lines. HD Ready can cope with 720 vertical lines which was an interim HD resolution.
There is no such thing as 'true' HD as 2k and 4k (strangely, horizontal resolution) are already used quite a bit in production circles and could easily migrate to the domestic market as and when suitable display panels become cheap enough.
[edit]On further investigation I see that there is an "HD Ready 1080p" brand that has been added more recently. I'm not at all sure that these labels help anyone except the marketters. :(
If people understand the principles they don't need the branding and if they don't understand the principles they won't understand the branding so it adds nothing.[/edit]
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If you cannot get Freeast you will not get Sky
BT Vision HD is not bad, better than their streaded SD stuff - I am cancelling now as Demand 5 has gone, BBC is better on PS3 IPlayer, ITV is useless