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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 09 December 2010, 21:04:52
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I have little interest in the antics of said person, or her former husband, or her current partner. However, it is difficult to escape some knowledge of her and her clan. She has a severely disabled son, Harvey. One would be entirely heartless, if not sick, to poke fun at an 8-year old who suffers from septo-optic dysplasia which has left him blind. He also has a condition that makes him gain weight easily meaning he finds walking difficult. Furthermore, he also suffers from autism which leads to behavioural problems.
his disabilities.
But, if you're someone called Frankie Boyle, who is apparently a comedian, it's fine to say things like "Jordan and Peter Andre are still fighting each other over custody of Harvey - eventually one of them will lose and have to keep him."
and, "I have a theory about the reason Jordan married a cage fighter - she needed a man strong enough to stop Harvey from f****** her..."
Channel 4 have refused to apologise, saying "Frankie Boyle is one of the highest profile comedians in the UK; he’s well known for his controversial humour and the programme carried appropriate warnings as to the nature of the material." ::)
No, CH4, he's not a comedian. A real comedian would NEVER make jokes about a disabled 8-year old. What has happened to real comedy in this country? So-called contemporary "comedians" always play the "freedom of expression" trump card when it suits them, yet are the first to poke fun at those they deem to be prejudiced.
I find jokes about disabled kids sick, but I suppose I'm in a minority in this anything-goes new media world. :(
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1337095/Katie-Price-refuse-apology-Frankie-Boyles-sexual-slur-disabled-son-Harvey.html
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the blokes an arse disabled kids is a no end of jokes are one of those things that you cant please everyone but hes gone a bit far >:(
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I have little interest in the antics of said person, or her former husband, or her current partner. However, it is difficult to escape some knowledge of her and her clan. She has a severely disabled son, Harvey. One would be entirely heartless, if not sick, to poke fun at an 8-year old who suffers from septo-optic dysplasia which has left him blind. He also has a condition that makes him gain weight easily meaning he finds walking difficult. Furthermore, he also suffers from autism which leads to behavioural problems.
his disabilities.
But, if you're someone called Frankie Boyle, who is apparently a comedian, it's fine to say things like "Jordan and Peter Andre are still fighting each other over custody of Harvey - eventually one of them will lose and have to keep him."
and, "I have a theory about the reason Jordan married a cage fighter - she needed a man strong enough to stop Harvey from f****** her..."
Channel 4 have refused to apologise, saying "Frankie Boyle is one of the highest profile comedians in the UK; he’s well known for his controversial humour and the programme carried appropriate warnings as to the nature of the material." ::)
No, CH4, he's not a comedian. A real comedian would NEVER make jokes about a disabled 8-year old. What has happened to real comedy in this country? So-called contemporary "comedians" always play the "freedom of expression" trump card when it suits them, yet are the first to poke fun at those they deem to be prejudiced.
thing-goes new media world. :(
I find jokes about disabled kids sick, but I suppose I'm in a minority in this any
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1337095/Katie-Price-refuse-apology-Frankie-Boyles-sexual-slur-disabled-son-Harvey.html
Me too Nickbat as I got a disable daughter and don't think it's at all funny, It's make me mad to hear them telling jokes about them who are disable :( >:(
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You're certainly not in a minority Nick, I think every right minded person finds anything like that totally abhorent, it's just that they/we/me! :-[ don't do anything other than tut & sigh at 'how things have gone to the dogs' when we should be screaming blue bloody murder at every opportunity to get things changed for the better! :(
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He has made a career of this type of thing. He was in trouble about a year ago for something similar, I cant remember the details. I suppose it keeps his name in the papers, but I think he goes way beyond human decency and well into the territory of vile.
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I am a human being. I think it is funny.
It's comedy. It's intended to shock.
F Sakes, someone will soon get upset about watching a Horror Movie and shitting their pants.
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I am a human being. I think it is funny.
It's comedy. It's intended to shock.
F Sakes, someone will soon get upset about watching a Horror Movie and shitting their pants.
Since when has comedy meant to shock? Am I missing something here? ::) ::)
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There are (or should be imo) limits of decency, and he seems to deliberately cross the limits at every opportunity, as a means of making a name for himself. Its not even an original joke, its been around for years, it has just had the kids father ( cant remember his name atm) substituted with Peter Andre
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I'm all for comedy. I generally don't care how offensive it gets. I don't offend easily, but there are limits. >:(
Kevin
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I am a human being. I think it is funny.
It's comedy. It's intended to shock.
F Sakes, someone will soon get upset about watching a Horror Movie and shitting their pants.
Since when has comedy meant to shock? Am I missing something here? ::) ::)
It has to shock to get an audience when it's not actually funny. ;)
Kevin
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Exactly. :y My limits of offensiveness are pretty high (Derek & Clive, Kevin Wilson etc) but gratuitous cruelty aimed at a severly disabled individual child (just because his mum happens to be an infamous slapper) is beyond the pale.
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has anyone actually watched the show ?
Thought not - i have, the audience get vile abuse as well, but they expect it as do the viewers- harvey will nevet be exposed to this humour
From start to finish is highly offensive - i love it
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BigAls right - if you find that kind of thing offensive then heres a tip dont pay to go and watch Frankie Boyle. besides, I've heard worse stuff in the playground when i was a kid so lets put away the vapours, pick up the monocles that have popped out (again) and carry on shall we :y
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I think drugs usage while pregnant has something to do with it.
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For the most part I don't find stand-up routines particularly engaging but it seems that quite a few people do.
It's a reflection of the changing face of society I suppose that such subject matter is considered to be fair game - rightly or wrongly many 'comedians' exploit this 'tolerance' for purposes of self-aggrandisement or topicality or 'edge' - it's not to my taste but if others consider it to be acceptable, then good luck to them.
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BigAls right - if you find that kind of thing offensive then heres a tip dont pay to go and watch Frankie Boyle. besides, I've heard worse stuff in the playground when i was a kid so lets put away the vapours, pick up the monocles that have popped out (again) and carry on shall we :y
Er, it was broadcast on CH4, which is a free-to-air station if you hadn't noticed. ::)
What have monocles got to do with it?
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BigAls right - if you find that kind of thing offensive then heres a tip dont pay to go and watch Frankie Boyle. besides, I've heard worse stuff in the playground when i was a kid so lets put away the vapours, pick up the monocles that have popped out (again) and carry on shall we :y
Er, it was broadcast on CH4, which is a free-to-air station if you hadn't noticed. ::)
What have monocles got to do with it?
yours popped out again, here.
yep it was on ch4, now if someone i find offensive and unfunny....like Cilla Black for example is on tv - i dont watch it, i turn off or turn over :y
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Boyle's show simply isn't funny. Not necessarily because it might offend some people, but because it's a load of largely regurgitated material fronted by a second-rate Jerry Sadowitz.
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Never even heard of this Boyle fella!
Comedy in my opinion has lost its way. . The like of Tommy Cooper, Ronnie Barker were just for me side splitting. I have watched Billy Connolly he isnt to bad but Peter Kay & Lee Evans are the most up to date funnymen for me.
Morales and self respect have been lost to stoop too such levels that picking on Jordan's child be classed as comedy. Same as that other clown Brand phoning Manwell to tell him his grand daughter was a tart or whatever. . How is that funny?
Perhaps I have lost my sense of humour. .
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Never even heard of this Boyle fella!
Comedy in my opinion has lost its way. . The like of Tommy Cooper, Ronnie Barker were just for me side splitting. I have watched Billy Connolly he isnt to bad but Peter Kay & Lee Evans are the most up to date funnymen for me.
Morales and self respect have been lost to stoop too such levels that picking on Jordan's child be classed as comedy. Same as that other clown Brand phoning Manwell to tell him his grand daughter was a tart or whatever. . How is that funny?
Perhaps I have lost my sense of humour. .
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I believe this would come under the banner of alternative comedy Daz. I agree with a lot of what you say about the older comedians, but then their type of comedy would no longer termed as "classic" if it never changed. Personally I like some of the new alternative comedy, but if I don't I change channel or switch off - simple! :y
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I'm all for comedy. I generally don't care how offensive it gets. I don't offend easily, but there are limits. >:(
Kevin
Yes there are kevin and taking the piss out of disable children is not one of them and I have a downs sister and if any one was to take the piss out of her then they would have me to deal with as she can't do nothing for her self but that don't give them the right to tell jokes about people who are disable >:( >:( >:(
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the blokes an arse disabled kids is a no end of jokes are one of those things that you cant please everyone but hes gone a bit far >:(
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Yes I agree with you and yes hes has gone to far >:(
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I am a human being. I think it is funny.
It's comedy. It's intended to shock.
F Sakes, someone will soon get upset about watching a Horror Movie and shitting their pants.
It may be comedy and yes you are human and it don't give him the right to joke about disable children NOT when they can't defend for theres selfs and it's not at all funny , you are sick to think it's funny >:( >:( >:(
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I'm all for comedy. I generally don't care how offensive it gets. I don't offend easily, but there are limits. >:(
Kevin
Nail on the head :y
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Frankie Boyle is mild compared to some of the disabled people i come into contact through work,especially when they rip into each other about each others disability,he is offensive BUT they do put it on late at night and give a warning that it may offend,relax,they are only words.
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no joke is too crude or offensive to me but thats me, everyone differs. its the father who should be getting all the abuse, he is the one who has turned his back on his own son. probably ashamed and embaressed of the way the boy is. any decent parent would not turn his/her back on there own child and see them as nothing but a burden like that frigging assole dwight yorke does. i know i wouldnt. and i know i wouldnt allow anyone to make fun of my child in any way.
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comedy over a disabled person.. and you eat your food with that money.. bloody b*st*rd , I hope next time he will come to earth as a disabled and people make jokes of him >:( >:(
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comedy over a disabled person.. and you eat your food with that money.. bloody b*st*rd , I hope next time he will come to earth as a disabled and people make jokes of him >:( >:(
Yes cem I do hope so and he won't see the funny side and if he does then he is one sad person
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personally i dont like jokes about disabled kids but it was funny i saw the show,i didnt like the part when he was on about paedos but it was funny...everyone has and is aloud to have different tastes and if thats not to your taste then dont watch you can turn over.i find watching peter barlow acting on corrie horrendous its an insult to the fans(and no i dont watch corrie the wife does,but if she didnt i would exorcise my right of free reomote access and turn the untalented ba@t@rd off)
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I'd be curious as to how many people on here actually watched it and were offended, or how many are just being offended days later? :y
I watched the first show, there was a very funny "Knightrider" sketch, with a mentally ill guy on drugs who "thought" his car was telling him to do stuff and there was a lot of unfunny stuff, bit of a curates egg but just cos I didnt find something particularly funny or tasteful then so what? If everything was designed to be inoffensive we'd be stuck with endless repeats of dross like "Last of the Summer Wine" or" My Family" or about a thousand other lame, safe, dull s*itcoms.
so deal with it people, get over it, dont watch it if you're easily offended, dont read about it if you're easily offended and certainly dont ban it because you're easily offended :y
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I'd be curious as to how many people on here actually watched it and were offended, or how many are just being offended days later? :y
I watched the first show, there was a very funny "Knightrider" sketch, with a mentally ill guy on drugs who "thought" his car was telling him to do stuff and there was a lot of unfunny stuff, bit of a curates egg but just cos I didnt find something particularly funny or tasteful then so what? If everything was designed to be inoffensive we'd be stuck with endless repeats of dross like "Last of the Summer Wine" or" My Family" or about a thousand other lame, safe, dull s*itcoms.
so deal with it people, get over it, dont watch it if you're easily offended, dont read about it if you're easily offended and certainly dont ban it because you're easily offended :y
I read about it and was offended...and I am not that easily offended, but I draw the line at poking fun at specifically-named defenceless children. I find it sick, not comedic. >:(
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I am close to unoffendable on grounds of taste and decency,but a cruel "joke" about an individual severly disabled child offended me the first time I heard it a couple of years ago, and it has offended me again. ;)
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I'd be curious as to how many people on here actually watched it and were offended, or how many are just being offended days later? :y
I watched the first show, there was a very funny "Knightrider" sketch, with a mentally ill guy on drugs who "thought" his car was telling him to do stuff and there was a lot of unfunny stuff, bit of a curates egg but just cos I didnt find something particularly funny or tasteful then so what? If everything was designed to be inoffensive we'd be stuck with endless repeats of dross like "Last of the Summer Wine" or" My Family" or about a thousand other lame, safe, dull s*itcoms.
so deal with it people, get over it, dont watch it if you're easily offended, dont read about it if you're easily offended and certainly dont ban it because you're easily offended :y
I'm sort of with you BJ but would that attitude not encourage an 'anything goes' mentality.
The more lax and unconcerned people become about potentially distasteful material (in whatever field) is it not possible that some of those will lose touch with propriety and fail to recognise a situation when they should be?
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'Offence'....it`s a funny thing but I seldom feel personally offended by comedy.......I can easily separate a comedic observation, from a personal attack, even when the comedy is deliberately provocative and distasteful. ;)
Manning, Vasey and now Boyle (and many others) have made a career and a darned-good living, pandering the simple tastes of their loyal audience of giggling buffoons. ::)
I freely use the change-channel and turn-off sanctions as and when necessary......`leave the kids to their fun. ;D
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take it noone on here has heard of any jokes off sickipedia then......
personally I dont find what little ive heard from him as funny-oh, and i know of a FAR funnier joke about katie and harvey( but best not share it with you :-X)but ,as with a lot of "jokes" I can sort of divorce the real people from their characters in the "joke". Lets face it, when you get down to it, a lot of "comedy" is about having a "butt" for the joke, someone or something to take the mickey out of and whilst you can add all sorts of wordplay/puns etc to dress it up and make the joke smarter that essence is still there. And can that only be funny if the "butt" is a person whose behaviour or beliefs has "opened them up " for a bit of mickey taking? A kind of socially acceptable "legitimate" target? Anyone find Mr Bean funny for example? Mainly visual I know and not to my knowledge based on a particular real person, but should we all be offended on behalf of any real people who are probably on the ASD spectrum that act like him?
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there is No place for jokes about disabled kids, just goes to show how shallow this person is.
But Jordon herself is a talentless waste of space ... the sooner she buggers off the better ;)
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certainly agree with the latter ! Never understood her popularity and all these young girls who apparantly see her as some sort of role model to look up to. Whats that all about?
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certainly agree with the latter ! Never understood her popularity and all these young girls who apparantly see her as some sort of role model to look up to. Whats that all about?
Her jugs and even those are full of plastic... while she was in the jungle all she seemed to do was keep pushing them up so they nearly popped out of her top
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katie price used to drink in the hillingdon arms years ago which is just up the rd, and from what i've been told from various people it didnt take much even then to get her on her back.
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katie price used to drink in the hillingdon arms years ago which is just up the rd, and from what i've been told from various people it didnt take much even then to get her on her back.
of course nowadays she's far more likely to fall forward ;D
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katie price used to drink in the hillingdon arms years ago which is just up the rd, and from what i've been told from various people it didnt take much even then to get her on her back.
of course nowadays she's far more likely to fall forward ;D
rear entry is inevitable then ;D ;D
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I'd be curious as to how many people on here actually watched it and were offended, or how many are just being offended days later? :y
I watched the first show, there was a very funny "Knightrider" sketch, with a mentally ill guy on drugs who "thought" his car was telling him to do stuff and there was a lot of unfunny stuff, bit of a curates egg but just cos I didnt find something particularly funny or tasteful then so what? If everything was designed to be inoffensive we'd be stuck with endless repeats of dross like "Last of the Summer Wine" or" My Family" or about a thousand other lame, safe, dull s*itcoms.
so deal with it people, get over it, dont watch it if you're easily offended, dont read about it if you're easily offended and certainly dont ban it because you're easily offended :y
I read about it and was offended...and I am not that easily offended, but I draw the line at poking fun at specifically-named defenceless children. I find it sick, not comedic. >:(
i really don't think he's actually telling you the truth Nickbat, I watched it last night....I think it was a joke, not a particularly funny one, but a fictional tale none the less. at the end of the show he also told me personally to f-off, needless to say I restrained myself from phoning in to complain :y
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certainly agree with the latter ! Never understood her popularity and all these young girls who apparantly see her as some sort of role model to look up to. Whats that all about?
all these young girls who apparantly see her as some sort of role model to look up to. Whats that all about?
You may very well ask Jerry.
Many people - not just in that category - are running around with heads full of mad dog's shite
thanks to 'quality' broadcasting, great tomes of knowledge and understanding such as Heat magazine, Hello, OK and so on, content (considered to be of great importance) derived from the internet and cellular networks, breakless parents and above all the inability to tell the make-believe world from the real one they inhabit.
INHO.
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there is No place for jokes about disabled kids, just goes to show how shallow this person is.
But Jordon herself is a talentless waste of space ... the sooner she buggers off the better ;)
you forget wheres she has come from. many a page 3 girl loose the looks and disappear into obscurity.
not a great fan of the ms price, saying that thou she can use the media to provide for herself and those who depend upon her.
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Finally saw something about this on the News tonight, Katie has put in an official complaint to the Broadcasting Authority.
Doubt much will come from it anyhow :-?