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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 December 2010, 15:02:58
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Last December I paid 36.60p plus VAT.....for my heating oil.....roughly £400....for 1,000 litres . :'(
Four new quotes today.....have come out at 64.50p....69.20p.......70.00p and 73.2p....plus VAT...double (100% more) than I paid last year.. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Is someone taking the piss?... :'( :'( :'( :'(
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My dad is in a similar predicament. He's joined some local syndicate who wait until they can order a few tens of thousands of litres then go for the lowest bid. Makes it a lot cheaper but a bit more planning required.
Kevin
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They don't seem willing to price match this year . We have about 200 litres left........I can't/won't pay that price..... :'(
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a mate of mine had his tank topped up last week and he was flabbergasted at the price increase since his last fill in september
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Have you thought about converting your boiler to run on biodiesel?
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7407#pid66431
You might need one of these :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bio-Diesel-Processor-/160516832180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item255f8c7bb4
You could run your boiler for as little as 9p/litre if you used old veggie oil from restaurants/chippies etc. 8-)
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I`m always on the fiscal knife-edge, so I have to go and collect my Kerosene using jerry cans (100 litres at a time) at a filling station about 10 miles away.....up until the middle of the recent heavy snow-falls, the price was 53.7 ppl....then, he ran low and had to have a restocking delivery at which point the price went upto 78.9 ppl :o
'Somebody' is making MASSIVE profits and I know it`s not the garage chap as he makes just 1 ppl. :-/
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my parents use oil for heating, theres has gone up too.
I cannot understand why when times are hard the Government is just allowing energy prices to rocket. Couldn't they cap it to RPI minus half a percent? "You have never had it so good. "
Once again it will be the OAPs that suffer.
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I`m always on the fiscal knife-edge, so I have to go and collect my Kerosene using jerry cans (100 litres at a time) at a filling station about 10 miles away.....up until the middle of the recent heavy snow-falls, the price was 53.7 ppl....then, he ran low and had to have a restocking delivery at which point the price went upto 78.9 ppl :o
'Somebody' is making MASSIVE profits and I know it`s not the garage chap as he makes just 1 ppl. :-/
....and I'm sure we all know who that is - the oil companies and bloody government, oh and not forgetting the additional millions for the oil sheik's! >:(
As usual, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
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Have you thought about converting your boiler to run on biodiesel?
http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=7407#pid66431
You might need one of these :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bio-Diesel-Processor-/160516832180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item255f8c7bb4
You could run your boiler for as little as 9p/litre if you used old veggie oil from restaurants/chippies etc. 8-)
Very interesting.....thanks MF... :y
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I`m always on the fiscal knife-edge, so I have to go and collect my Kerosene using jerry cans (100 litres at a time) at a filling station about 10 miles away.....up until the middle of the recent heavy snow-falls, the price was 53.7 ppl....then, he ran low and had to have a restocking delivery at which point the price went upto 78.9 ppl :o
'Somebody' is making MASSIVE profits and I know it`s not the garage chap as he makes just 1 ppl. :-/
....... just crazy ....Debs... :'( :'(
I have told Mrs Opti to pull another jumper on...... ;) :-*
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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.
Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.
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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.
Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.
Why such a difference I wonder? ....Zulu...
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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.
Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.
Why such a difference I wonder? ....Zulu...
I couldn't begin to work it out O as, if I went to buy another 47Kg refill of propane, I'd be paying £71 for the honour against your much lower figure.
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my parents use oil for heating, theres has gone up too.
I cannot understand why when times are hard the Government is just allowing energy prices to rocket. Couldn't they cap it to RPI minus half a percent? "You have never had it so good. "
Once again it will be the OAPs that suffer.
Doubtful Varche - OAP,s in the UK get a very generous winter fuel allowance from the public purse. Those who will suffer the most imo will be the "squeezed middle" again.
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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.
Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.
Why such a difference I wonder? ....Zulu...
I couldn't begin to work it out O as, if I went to buy another 47Kg refill of propane, I'd be paying £71 for the honour against your much lower figure.
Let me have 1,000 litres at 51.5ppl........and I will let you have a couple of 47KG bottles for £40 each.....Whaddayasay?..... ;D ;D ;D :y
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I read an interesting article on this very subject in Saturdays Telegraph ( still read it over here I'm afraid )
It prompted me to ask a local who supplies the same heating oil what the price was here and he said 75 cents a litre ( 63 p ) and about to rise again. LPG went up today also .
The recent budget put 4 c on a litre of unleaded taking it up to 142 c (£1 19 p ) in our local station.
Isn't it interesting that the price of these items always rises just before the demand increases .
We're certainly being shafted by the oil companies and government of the day.
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My dad is in a similar predicament. He's joined some local syndicate who wait until they can order a few tens of thousands of litres then go for the lowest bid. Makes it a lot cheaper but a bit more planning required.
Kevin
Very similar approach to what a mate of mine does. He lives in a small village where theres no mains gas.
I believe theres an agreement with an oil supplier.....who drives thro the village every couple of months and checks everyones tanks.....if he can get 500L or more in them then he tops them up....and gives discount for supplying a lot more than an individual tank :)
Maybe you, Opti, could get neighbours interested in doing this if a supplier would give discount for bulk :y
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I`m always on the fiscal knife-edge, so I have to go and collect my Kerosene using jerry cans (100 litres at a time) at a filling station about 10 miles away.....up until the middle of the recent heavy snow-falls, the price was 53.7 ppl....then, he ran low and had to have a restocking delivery at which point the price went upto 78.9 ppl :o
'Somebody' is making MASSIVE profits and I know it`s not the garage chap as he makes just 1 ppl. :-/
....and I'm sure we all know who that is - the oil companies and bloody government, oh and not forgetting the additional millions for the oil sheik's! >:(
As usual, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
:y :y
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Opti, Heating oil is one of the biggest daily movers on the stock markets. You would be better to find some accurate charts and follow the priceing offer a 12 month period and also check the last 5 years.
Then armed with the charts buy your fuel when the prices are low rather than wait till you run low. I say this hoping that the fuel standing unused for months on end wont have any issues.
Prices will have risen due the the snow over the last 2 weeks. Allways going to lose out to the sharks taking advantage of the supply and demand situation. You want it now in bulk you have to pay thier prices, when no one want to refill they are forced to start competing again.
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"The Office of Fair Trading announced that it was monitoring allegations of price fixing among suppliers, as the average cost of a litre of oil leapt to more than 70p from just over 40p a month ago."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8199110/Millions-facing-fuel-rationing-over-Christmas-as-heating-oil-runs-low.html
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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.
Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.
Why such a difference I wonder? ....Zulu...
I couldn't begin to work it out O as, if I went to buy another 47Kg refill of propane, I'd be paying £71 for the honour against your much lower figure.
How much :o :o I paid £39 in November for a Calor one, and that was from the caravan site ::) and there is a company, flo gas? is even cheaper.....
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
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Sad news indeed Opti. [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
I brimmed by 2.5k tank with 1200 litres at 45ppl back in October.
Price now stands (15 minutes ago) at 51.5ppl.
Why such a difference I wonder? ....Zulu...
I couldn't begin to work it out O as, if I went to buy another 47Kg refill of propane, I'd be paying £71 for the honour against your much lower figure.
How much :o :o I paid £39 in November for a Calor one, and that was from the caravan site ::) and there is a company, flo gas? is even cheaper.....
my mums just paid £74 for 2 bottles of calor gas.
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
It's the price fixing that is the problem, not the free market. Any form of cartel is anti-enterprise. Besides which, in some remote areas, there is very little competition as there are so few suppliers, so it's not representative of a free market.
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
..............and property ownership is theft Karl Marx :P :P
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
It's the price fixing that is the problem, not the free market. Any form of cartel is anti-enterprise. Besides which, in some remote areas, there is very little competition as there are so few suppliers, so it's not representative of a free market.
true Nick, good point :y
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
..............and property ownership is theft Karl Marx :P :P
"The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. " Groucho Marx :y
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china seems to be getting it cheap enough.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_wikileaks_venezuela_oil
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
..............and property ownership is theft Karl Marx :P :P
I could never work this one out - theft from whom?
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
..............and property ownership is theft Karl Marx :P :P
I could never work this one out - theft from whom?
everyone :y
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the price is unbelievably volatile, and it is profiteering by oil companies (rather than the suppliers) but thats what happens in a free market controlled utterly by greed :y
"greed is good" Gordon the Gekko :o
"Gordon is a moron" Jilted John ;D
..............and property ownership is theft Karl Marx :P :P
I could never work this one out - theft from whom?
everyone :y
Aah, that presupposes that everyone has the wherewithal, gumption or carries the responsibility necessary to own property beyond what would be considered to be the the basic necessities.
Of those who have no wish to own property - capital or otherwise - what of their plight, was it to be foisted upon them to satisfy this criterion of Marxism.
I suppose it's ironic that Marx’s teachings, rather like those of religious scholars, gained much in the telling after his death when they were picked up by disciples who fancied the message was the one to justify and bolster their cause.