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Title: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2010, 17:35:58
Was on shift today, walked in to work as I fancied the walk, but when my colleague got in at 12, it was dumping it with snow, and considerable amount fell very quickly. We decided to say bugger to it and work from home, he was going to give me a lift home, but we had some serious problems.

First off his car is a BMW 330 Ci, it is absolutely appalling! Never seen such bad car in the snow!

Took me good 40 mins of pushing to get it barley out of the space...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2016%2059%2041.jpg)

I then when back in the office and stole borrowed a bit of shelving, used it as a make shift spade, which worked well.

Bit embarrassing when some old dear turned up, got in her car and drove out no issues in her 15 year old Pug  :o  ;D  ::)

Going down the A4 which was full of slush, the BMW refused to go in a straight line, constantly stepping out back end, no other cars where having such issues, was just appalling!

Walking was quicker, by far, as it turned to grid lock, so i took to the pavement:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2017%2009%2053.jpg)

Got back to my flat, had a nice view from my kitchen....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0188.JPG)

All local roads were fubared though! Slightest incline and cars/vans/trucks were getting stuck....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0211.JPG)

A truck got stuck, notice the pillock in the 3 series going wrong side of the road  ::)

Everyone followed like sheep, which led to more problems:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0215.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0217.JPG)

Now that truck was stuck for a good 45 mins, a gritting lorry turned up (which was stuck in the queue) but the pillock of a driver decided not to grit this junction  :o :o :o

He drove straight past the Lexus which had been stuck for a good few minutes.

Noticed Lexus and BMW's RWD refused to work in the snow. Audi and Mercs had no issues...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0221.JPG)

Main problem is the slush everyware, roads not being cleared and not gritted.  >:(
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: geoffr70 on 18 December 2010, 17:43:21
Some good pics and an interesting story there Tunnie! I'm pleased to know that my 10 yo Elite gets everywhere (almost) whereas newer 'better' cars don't!
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: skyblue on 18 December 2010, 17:51:08
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Some good pics and an interesting story there Tunnie! I'm pleased to know that my 10 yo Elite gets everywhere (almost) whereas newer 'better' cars don't!

Snob  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: geoffr70 on 18 December 2010, 17:57:09
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Some good pics and an interesting story there Tunnie! I'm pleased to know that my 10 yo Elite gets everywhere (almost) whereas newer 'better' cars don't!

Snob  ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



I laugh in the face of anything less than a 2.5 or lower than CDX, pah!

But on a serious note, it gets everywhere and surprises any people, as they think it being rwd and automatic it should get stuck. I whack it in snow mode and it goes anywhere, i sometimes have to turn the TC off and carry the speed (15-20 ish) round a sharp turn by sliding it lightly to maintain the momentum so it doesn't get stuck, daft old cobbled streets!
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: skyblue on 18 December 2010, 18:09:51
Mine has been parked up and wont be moving  until I see an improvment in the road conditions as once again BFBC have left us too it ........ roads look terrible....someone told me that they were stuck for over an hour on the Bagshot road ( link to M3 ) as cars couldnt get up the hill due to getting stuck  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Andy B on 18 December 2010, 18:20:37
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Mine has been parked up and wont be moving  .. ....

Same as mine then  ;) I just dug my Astra out to take SWMBO to work at midday and will just use that till the thaw.  ;D
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: YZ250 on 18 December 2010, 18:42:14
As well as the Omega we have a new bmw 330d M Sport Coupe fitted with the 19" x 30 x 255 rear tyres and in response to your post Tunnie I totally agree. It is appalling in the snow, well it would be if you could get it moving. It doesn't need an incline to halt it as it is reluctant to move on the flat. We just don't even bother trying with it when it's snowing. Omega's not too bad if you can keep it moving.  :y





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First off his car is a BMW 330 Ci, it is absolutely appalling! Never seen such bad car in the snow!

Bit embarrassing when some old dear turned up, got in her car and drove out no issues in her 15 year old Pug  :o  ;D  ::)

Going down the A4 which was full of slush, the BMW refused to go in a straight line, constantly stepping out back end, no other cars where having such issues, was just appalling!

Walking was quicker, by far.......





Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: vauxfan2k on 18 December 2010, 18:43:35
my ST TDCI mondeo is proving to be a tad useless in this weather, but not due to the car, I got some continental sport contact's about 5 months ago, and while excelent on the dry/wet tar, they are useless in the snow.

The tread pattern goes round the tyre rather than across it, so no grip in snow.

I think tyre choice on the omega has alot to do with the way some people have no problems in the snow.

Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: hotel21 on 18 December 2010, 18:47:52
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my ST TDCI mondeo is proving to be a tad useless in this weather, but not due to the car, I got some continental sport contact's about 5 months ago, and while excelent on the dry/wet tar, they are useless in the snow.

The tread pattern goes round the tyre rather than across it, so no grip in snow.

I think tyre choice on the omega has alot to do with the way some people have no problems in the snow.


Not wanting to divert the path of this thread but, would agree on the tyre pattern thing.  For some reason, my Goodyear F1 assymetrics are quite good in the snow whilst my Goodyear F1 GSD3's were absolutely cack....
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Debs. on 18 December 2010, 18:53:13
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The tread pattern goes round the tyre rather than across it, so no grip in snow.

 ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siping_%28rubber%29
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: vauxfan2k on 18 December 2010, 18:55:07
erm, thanks but iim not taking the grinder out on my £180 quid tyres  just cos Bill odball pressed the snow button ::) ::)

Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: aaronjb on 18 December 2010, 18:57:28
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my ST TDCI mondeo is proving to be a tad useless in this weather, but not due to the car, I got some continental sport contact's about 5 months ago, and while excelent on the dry/wet tar, they are useless in the snow.

The tread pattern goes round the tyre rather than across it, so no grip in snow.

I think tyre choice on the omega has alot to do with the way some people have no problems in the snow.


Not wanting to divert the path of this thread but, would agree on the tyre pattern thing.  For some reason, my Goodyear F1 assymetrics are quite good in the snow whilst my Goodyear F1 GSD3's were absolutely cack....

Indeed - I ran Toyo's on the MR2 one winter - which were brilliant - and Bridgestone RE040s the next, which were barely passable (then again, their only good characteristic as a tyre is their stiff sidewalls, other than that they're a godawful tyre)
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: YZ250 on 18 December 2010, 19:00:10
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I think tyre choice on the omega has alot to do with the way some people have no problems in the snow.


I seriously believe it's down to the profile of the tyre. I'm sure my old Omega Elite with 16" wheels was better at starting off in the snow than my current 17" wheels on my facelift.
We have a slope on our road and my son's Navara D40 flies up it in heavy snow or ice with his 17" standard wheels and General Grabbers fitted but if he leaves his bling 22" summer wheels fitted with low profiles on, it will spin all four wheels as it goes up the hill. Same vehicle with different wheels. Obviously the Grabbers help. ;D
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 December 2010, 19:01:17
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Was on shift today, walked in to work as I fancied the walk, but when my colleague got in at 12, it was dumping it with snow, and considerable amount fell very quickly. We decided to say bugger to it and work from home, he was going to give me a lift home, but we had some serious problems.

First off his car is a BMW 330 Ci, it is absolutely appalling! Never seen such bad car in the snow!

Took me good 40 mins of pushing to get it barley out of the space...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2016%2059%2041.jpg)

I then when back in the office and stole borrowed a bit of shelving, used it as a make shift spade, which worked well.

Bit embarrassing when some old dear turned up, got in her car and drove out no issues in her 15 year old Pug  :o  ;D  ::)

Going down the A4 which was full of slush, the BMW refused to go in a straight line, constantly stepping out back end, no other cars where having such issues, was just appalling!

Walking was quicker, by far, as it turned to grid lock, so i took to the pavement:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2017%2009%2053.jpg)

Got back to my flat, had a nice view from my kitchen....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0188.JPG)

All local roads were fubared though! Slightest incline and cars/vans/trucks were getting stuck....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0211.JPG)

A truck got stuck, notice the pillock in the 3 series going wrong side of the road  ::)

Everyone followed like sheep, which led to more problems:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0215.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0217.JPG)

Now that truck was stuck for a good 45 mins, a gritting lorry turned up (which was stuck in the queue) but the pillock of a driver decided not to grit this junction  :o :o :o

He drove straight past the Lexus which had been stuck for a good few minutes.

Noticed Lexus and BMW's RWD refused to work in the snow. Audi and Mercs had no issues...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0221.JPG)

Main problem is the slush everyware, roads not being cleared and not gritted.  >:(

Tunnie, you are really good at telling an event with piccies :y
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 December 2010, 19:02:59
and the owner of bimmer 330ci..

tell him to buy some proper winter tyres.. or he has no luck in snow ;D
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: tunnie on 18 December 2010, 19:12:13
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Was on shift today, walked in to work as I fancied the walk, but when my colleague got in at 12, it was dumping it with snow, and considerable amount fell very quickly. We decided to say bugger to it and work from home, he was going to give me a lift home, but we had some serious problems.

First off his car is a BMW 330 Ci, it is absolutely appalling! Never seen such bad car in the snow!

Took me good 40 mins of pushing to get it barley out of the space...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2016%2059%2041.jpg)

I then when back in the office and stole borrowed a bit of shelving, used it as a make shift spade, which worked well.

Bit embarrassing when some old dear turned up, got in her car and drove out no issues in her 15 year old Pug  :o  ;D  ::)

Going down the A4 which was full of slush, the BMW refused to go in a straight line, constantly stepping out back end, no other cars where having such issues, was just appalling!

Walking was quicker, by far, as it turned to grid lock, so i took to the pavement:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2017%2009%2053.jpg)

Got back to my flat, had a nice view from my kitchen....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0188.JPG)

All local roads were fubared though! Slightest incline and cars/vans/trucks were getting stuck....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0211.JPG)

A truck got stuck, notice the pillock in the 3 series going wrong side of the road  ::)

Everyone followed like sheep, which led to more problems:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0215.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0217.JPG)

Now that truck was stuck for a good 45 mins, a gritting lorry turned up (which was stuck in the queue) but the pillock of a driver decided not to grit this junction  :o :o :o

He drove straight past the Lexus which had been stuck for a good few minutes.

Noticed Lexus and BMW's RWD refused to work in the snow. Audi and Mercs had no issues...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0221.JPG)

Main problem is the slush everyware, roads not being cleared and not gritted.  >:(

Tunnie, you are really good at telling an event with piccies :y

Thanks Cem  :y
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Vamps on 18 December 2010, 19:15:30
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Was on shift today, walked in to work as I fancied the walk, but when my colleague got in at 12, it was dumping it with snow, and considerable amount fell very quickly. We decided to say bugger to it and work from home, he was going to give me a lift home, but we had some serious problems.

First off his car is a BMW 330 Ci, it is absolutely appalling! Never seen such bad car in the snow!

Took me good 40 mins of pushing to get it barley out of the space...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2016%2059%2041.jpg)

I then when back in the office and stole borrowed a bit of shelving, used it as a make shift spade, which worked well.

Bit embarrassing when some old dear turned up, got in her car and drove out no issues in her 15 year old Pug  :o  ;D  ::)

Going down the A4 which was full of slush, the BMW refused to go in a straight line, constantly stepping out back end, no other cars where having such issues, was just appalling!

Walking was quicker, by far, as it turned to grid lock, so i took to the pavement:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/Photo%20Dec%2018%2C%2017%2009%2053.jpg)

Got back to my flat, had a nice view from my kitchen....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0188.JPG)

All local roads were fubared though! Slightest incline and cars/vans/trucks were getting stuck....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0211.JPG)

A truck got stuck, notice the pillock in the 3 series going wrong side of the road  ::)

Everyone followed like sheep, which led to more problems:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0215.JPG)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0217.JPG)

Now that truck was stuck for a good 45 mins, a gritting lorry turned up (which was stuck in the queue) but the pillock of a driver decided not to grit this junction  :o :o :o

He drove straight past the Lexus which had been stuck for a good few minutes.

Noticed Lexus and BMW's RWD refused to work in the snow. Audi and Mercs had no issues...

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/803897/Snow/2010/DSC_0221.JPG)

Main problem is the slush everyware, roads not being cleared and not gritted.  >:(

Showed swmbo the pictures, she laughed and said that is not snow, such a little covering...such chaos.... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: jonnycool on 18 December 2010, 21:26:00
Am I the only one whose Omega is complete shite in the snow??  :-?
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Andy B on 18 December 2010, 21:30:56
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Am I the only one whose Omega is complete shite in the snow??  :-?

No  ;) but I'm fortunate that I have an alternative car to use.  :)
I live at the top of a slight hill & when it's compacted snow the Omega just won't look at it, well it does but just stops moving forwards halfway up  ;D ;D Maybe I should buy a couple of bags of sand for the boot if I really need to use it.
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Vamps on 18 December 2010, 21:35:13
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Am I the only one whose Omega is complete shite in the snow??  :-?

I have 3 bags of sand in the back of mine at the moment...that helped... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: jonnycool on 18 December 2010, 21:36:45
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Am I the only one whose Omega is complete shite in the snow??  :-?

I have 3 bags of sand in the back of mine at the moment...that helped... :D :D :D
Yeah, I need something heavy to try in the boot, can't find anything lying around at the moment  :)
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Simon72 on 18 December 2010, 21:44:13
Been out today in the Miggy and only had to abandon a hill climb to fetch SWMBO from hair dressers, decided to park up at the pub at the bottom of hill and have a swift Shandy until SWMBO walked down the hill and met up with me. :-)

Drove home with no issues but did see quite a few abandoned BMW and Mercs on the road who couldn't make minor slopes.

A trick I have been taught when driving a RWD with NO LSD or TC is when a wheel starts to spin is to slightly apply hand-brake on and off quickly to put a little resistance on the spinning wheel this then tricks the DIFF to transfer power over to the un-driven wheel making it act a little like LSD ;-) (AND IT WORKS)
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: cube on 18 December 2010, 21:46:48

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Yeah, I need something heavy to try in the boot, can't find anything lying around at the moment  :)[/quote]

You can have my missus if you want ??? She'll weigh it down !
lol lol lol
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: jonnycool on 18 December 2010, 21:48:50
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Yeah, I need something heavy to try in the boot, can't find anything lying around at the moment  :)

You can have my missus if you want ??? She'll weigh it down !
lol lol lol
Another one whose missus doesn't look over their shoulder  ;D
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 December 2010, 21:52:23
Just remember, hardly any Audi's are rear wheel drive  :y
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Simon72 on 18 December 2010, 21:55:57
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Just remember, hardly any Audi's are rear wheel drive  :y


Funniest I have seen today is my neighbours Audi TT 3.2 4x4 stuck in the street, we had to give him a push.
Oh the joy of power and stupidly LOW PROFILE TYRES  8-)
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: PhilRich on 18 December 2010, 22:27:19
No snow here yet this time around, but bloody FREEZING! It's showing -9 on the MID & I live right on the coast! The main thing I worry about isn't that the Mig will let me down, the old girl has done amazingly well so far, it's the fact that hardly anyone has a clue how to drive in bad weather!! My heart is in my mouth every time I take the car out in case some dipstick writes it off, which as we all know doesn't take much doing at all these days with modern cars & bloody daft labour rates at autobody repair shops! >:(
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Vamps on 19 December 2010, 00:38:34
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No snow here yet this time around, but bloody FREEZING! It's showing -9 on the MID & I live right on the coast! The main thing I worry about isn't that the Mig will let me down, the old girl has done amazingly well so far, it's the fact that hardly anyone has a clue how to drive in bad weather!! My heart is in my mouth every time I take the car out in case some dipstick writes it off, which as we all know doesn't take much doing at all these days with modern cars & bloody daft labour rates at autobody repair shops! >:(

Coming over your way when I get the car back and it snows, ;) ;)
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: Lazydocker on 19 December 2010, 01:59:29
We've not had a massive amount of snow (about 3" at most) but very slippery under tyre ::) that said, been to SWMBO's Christmas do and I was driving... No problems, even on the untreated roads with sheet ice ;) I don't understand why everyone is having problems  :-? Although I did drop the tyre pressures to about 28psi on the way out and have plenty of weight in the boot :y
Title: Re: Saturday Fun in the snow...
Post by: PhilRich on 19 December 2010, 10:18:47
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No snow here yet this time around, but bloody FREEZING! It's showing -9 on the MID & I live right on the coast! The main thing I worry about isn't that the Mig will let me down, the old girl has done amazingly well so far, it's the fact that hardly anyone has a clue how to drive in bad weather!! My heart is in my mouth every time I take the car out in case some dipstick writes it off, which as we all know doesn't take much doing at all these days with modern cars & bloody daft labour rates at autobody repair shops! >:(

Coming over your way when I get the car back and it snows, ;) ;)







Spoke too bloody soon! ::)
As I was locking up before bed last night it had started to snow tiny dry little flakes that laid immediately. Got up this morning at 7:30 (well it is Sunday!) & we now have 5" of the stuff! :'( My grandkids say it makes the best snowballs 'ever'! ::) Still coming down in a light, steady drizzle (is that the right word for snow?) & the sky is Battleship Grey so plenty more to come yet methinks! :(