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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Banjax on 25 December 2010, 09:20:05
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Why do all these religious types insist on hijacking Xmas with their carols and prayers, it's ruining the magic for everyone else ;D
Get your own festival and leave the rest of us alone :y
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:o :o :o :o :-X :-X
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hmmmmm...seems there really is peace and goodwill across the OOF today :y :y
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I hope we can expect an equally "witty" comment during Ramadam and other religious festivals BJ - gotta have balance y,know. ;) ::)
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I hope we can expect an equally "witty" comment during Ramadam and other religious festivals BJ - gotta have balance y,know. ;) ::)
I think Ramadan is actually a religious festival Albs, Xmas ain't :y
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I'm afraid both are from religious origin.. ;D
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here are some info
"Simply put, Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. "
Additional input:
"•Traditionally, it's supposed to be a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Historically, it's "winter festival". Christmas is just a couple days following the "shortest day" for the northern hemisphere. That means that the north poll of the earth's axis is pointing AWAY from the Sun. As the earth continues it's trip around the Sun, the days start to get longer. According to older European celebrations, when the Sun started back north, there was reason to celebrate and that was the beginning of the Winter Festival. When Constantine united Europe under the "Universal Religion", he incorporated several of the more familiar holidays into the religion he needed to unite Europe. Winter festival is about the rebirth of the land so it was generally felt that Christmas would fit in. While Constantine's efforts to unite Europe eventually failed, his Catholic (universal) religion continues today"
"The historic record of the birth of Christ can be found in Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 2:1-20.
Unlike any other baby, the one born that night in Bethlehem was unique in all of history. He was not created by a human father and mother. He had a heavenly pre-existence (John 1:1-3, 14). He is God, the Son—Creator of the universe (Philippians 2:5-11). This is why Christmas is called the incarnation, a word which means “in the flesh.” In the birth of Jesus, the eternal, all-powerful and all-knowing Creator came to earth in the flesh. "
"Father Christmas is based on a real person, St. Nicholas, which explains his other name 'Santa Claus' which comes from the Dutch 'Sinterklaas'. Nicholas was a Christian leader from Myra (in modern-day Turkey) in the 4th century AD. He was very shy, and wanted to give money to poor people without them knowing about it. It is said that one day, he climbed the roof of a house and dropped a purse of money down the chimney. It landed in the stocking which a girl had put to dry by the fire! This may explain the belief that Father Christmas comes down the chimney and places gifts in children's stockings.
Boxing Day
In English-speaking countries, the day following Christmas Day is called 'Boxing Day'. This word comes from the custom which started in the Middle Ages around 800 years ago: churches would open their 'alms boxe' (boxes in which people had placed gifts of money) and distribute the contents to poor people in the neighbourhood on the day after Christmas. The tradition continues today - small gifts are often given to delivery workers such as postal staff and children who deliver newspapers. "
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sorry cem, humans have celebrated a mid-winter festival long long before Christianity stuck its oar in and nabbed it for itself because religion, in its pursuit to control the weaker minded humans realised it would be grossly unpopular to ban the winter festival popular in cultures across the northern hemisphere (banning things being the default position of most religions) so instead they "allowed" it by making up some tosh that fit in (actually most of the story was nicked from the Romans winter solstice worship of Saturn in any case) and centuries later they're still trying to pretend it has anything to do with religion :y :y
oh and Merry Xmas Cem :y
next week "why only Scotland is allowed to celebrate New Year" ;)
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Whatever position people take on the subject the excuse for celebration did produce some fine music I must say;
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3vpAWW2Zc[/media]
(Not as good as the 1966 Charles Mackerras version)
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sorry cem, humans have celebrated a mid-winter festival long long before Christianity stuck its oar in and nabbed it for itself because religion, in its pursuit to control the weaker minded humans realised it would be grossly unpopular to ban the winter festival popular in cultures across the northern hemisphere (banning things being the default position of most religions
yep..
) so instead they "allowed" it by making up some tosh that fit in (actually most of the story was nicked from the Romans winter solstice worship of Saturn in any case) and centuries later they're still trying to pretend it has anything to do with religion :y :y
ok you beat me !! ;D :P :y :y
oh and Merry Xmas Cem :y
Merry Christmas Banjax [smiley=beer.gif] :y
next week "why only Scotland is allowed to celebrate New Year" ;)
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sorry cem, humans have celebrated a mid-winter festival long long before Christianity stuck its oar in and nabbed it for itself because religion, in its pursuit to control the weaker minded humans realised it would be grossly unpopular to ban the winter festival popular in cultures across the northern hemisphere (banning things being the default position of most religions
yep..
) so instead they "allowed" it by making up some tosh that fit in (actually most of the story was nicked from the Romans winter solstice worship of Saturn in any case) and centuries later they're still trying to pretend it has anything to do with religion :y :y
ok you beat me !! ;D :P :y :y
oh and Merry Xmas Cem :y
Merry Christmas Banjax [smiley=beer.gif] :y
next week "why only Scotland is allowed to celebrate New Year" ;)
Cem, most people would agree with you, and its certainly my favourite time of the year thanks in no small part to christianity building on it and adding to it - i just like to dig deep and see why we do what we do - i suppose all traditions are a bit of this and a bit of that :y
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Whatever position people take on the subject the excuse for celebration did produce some fine music I must say;
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS3vpAWW2Zc[/media]
(Not as good as the 1966 Charles Mackerras version)
an oasis of class in a sea of tinsel Z :y
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sorry cem, humans have celebrated a mid-winter festival long long before Christianity stuck its oar in and nabbed it for itself because religion, in its pursuit to control the weaker minded humans realised it would be grossly unpopular to ban the winter festival popular in cultures across the northern hemisphere (banning things being the default position of most religions
yep..
) so instead they "allowed" it by making up some tosh that fit in (actually most of the story was nicked from the Romans winter solstice worship of Saturn in any case) and centuries later they're still trying to pretend it has anything to do with religion :y :y
ok you beat me !! ;D :P :y :y
oh and Merry Xmas Cem :y
Merry Christmas Banjax [smiley=beer.gif] :y
next week "why only Scotland is allowed to celebrate New Year" ;)
Cem, Father Christmas started with a chap called St Nick and the story began in Turkey, where his remains lay for many years before being stolen by the French, not sure if Turkey got them back again and there was some question at the time if they had been outwitted by the Monks and stolen the wrong remains anyway..... ::) ::) ::)
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I thought it had been hijacked by the shopping centers to lever even more money out of us all. And who is this Mary Christmas I keep hearing about?
Season's Greetings to you all whatever your faith, deity or religious sect.
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sorry cem, humans have celebrated a mid-winter festival long long before Christianity stuck its oar in and nabbed it for itself because religion, in its pursuit to control the weaker minded humans realised it would be grossly unpopular to ban the winter festival popular in cultures across the northern hemisphere (banning things being the default position of most religions
yep..
) so instead they "allowed" it by making up some tosh that fit in (actually most of the story was nicked from the Romans winter solstice worship of Saturn in any case) and centuries later they're still trying to pretend it has anything to do with religion :y :y
ok you beat me !! ;D :P :y :y
oh and Merry Xmas Cem :y
Merry Christmas Banjax [smiley=beer.gif] :y
next week "why only Scotland is allowed to celebrate New Year" ;)
Cem, Father Christmas started with a chap called St Nick and the story began in Turkey, where his remains lay for many years before being stolen by the French, not sure if Turkey got them back again and there was some question at the time if they had been outwitted by the Monks and stolen the wrong remains anyway..... ::) ::) ::)
from the time they are stolen numerous number of govts changed and probably nobody is aware of that in the current govt.. and another probability is that the current overdose muslim workers dont care about that subject .. who knows..