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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 02 January 2011, 10:21:34
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I am surprised that there is no comment on the forum on this.
£2 million pounds worth of damage just because the prisoners weren't supposed to have alcohol. It is a prison and they are doing time. You don't get alcohol, takeaways, your own keys, mobiles and so on in a real prison.
It doesn't stop there. The overtime and costs with relocation of prisoners over the Festive period will no doubt be another £1 million. Then there will be the inevitable enquiry, that may well easily eclipse all the other costs put together knowing how we can milk an enquiry.
At least the five ring leaders may be prosecuted under the prisons act. If it was down to me I would have them and the other 35 assistants rebuilding (at their own cost) the prison for the rest of their lives if need be.
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The threat to the ringleaders is to serve their sentence at a more secure unit. Whoopy doo.
TheBoy for President! All prisoners are used by our armed forces, either to serve, or to be used as live target practice.
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There's not much outrage in the country either V.
It suggests to me that people are becoming inured to violence (and destruction) and are inclined to seek the peaceful sanctity of the celebrity magazines, soap operas and anything else in any other medium that provides a distraction to reality.
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2 prison officers + 4 support staff (whatever that is) and nearly 500 prisoners, and these were "normal" staffing levels - yes its an open prison, and theres an element of trust necessary to police it but it looks like one of those situations that theres no immediate back up if it all kicks off - could have been extremely dangerous for the staff :o
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2 prison officers + 4 support staff (whatever that is) and nearly 500 prisoners, and these were "normal" staffing levels - yes its an open prison, and theres an element of trust necessary to police it but it looks like one of those situations that theres no immediate back up if it all kicks off - could have been extremely dangerous for the staff :o
These are probably exploited 'agency-employed minimum-waged' people >:(
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I was watching "Death Race" (the remake, not the original) last night about the same time as I was reading this story .. doesn't seem like such a bad idea, to me..
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Tax payers will be footing bill as usual :'( :'( :'(
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i visited a mate who was in there last year he said it was a holiday camp he was half pissed when i visited him apparently the prison is full of drugs and alcahol so much for it being a punishment
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i visited a mate who was in there last year he said it was a holiday camp he was half pissed when i visited him apparently the prison is full of drugs and alcahol so much for it being a punishment
Its not just the open prisons that are holiday camps .... its all of em >:( >:( >:(
I would make the shites live in it while it was rebuilt by THEM while they were serving longer sentences for this mindless destruction >:( >:( >:(
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I've rethought this. Just let them put up tents and let them live in those for all time.
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I've rethought this. Just let them put up tents and let them live in those for all time.
Only if I can put holes in the canvas ;) :D
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i visited a mate who was in there last year he said it was a holiday camp he was half pissed when i visited him apparently the prison is full of drugs and alcahol so much for it being a punishment
Its not just the open prisons that are holiday camps .... its all of em >:( >:( >:(
I would make the shites live in it while it was rebuilt by THEM while they were serving longer sentences for this mindless destruction >:( >:( >:(
How may nicks have you done bird in ?
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Its quite simple really, get those involved to labour without pay on the clear up and rebuild and then give them some proper time in a proper
holiday campprison >:(
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Forcing them to rebuild the prison/actually face repercussions of their actions would probably entitle them to compensation for 'infringing their civil liberties' apfu.
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Its quite simple really, get those involved to labour without pay on the clear up and rebuild and then give them some proper time in a proper holiday campprison >:(
totally agree pete
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There's not much outrage in the country either V.
It suggests to me that people are becoming inured to violence (and destruction) and are inclined to seek the peaceful sanctity of the celebrity magazines, soap operas and anything else in any other medium that provides a distraction to reality.
Or is it a case of the majority of people in this country are fed up being up in arms at the Government for their lack of 'balls' to do something about things like this. The Government not listening to us at all anyway, doing their "we're alright, so F you lot", so leads to "What's the point they won't do sweet FA, so why bother".
Any other country and they would of probably let them live in the mess and got them to rebuild it. Here they won't because they (government) are probably too worried that the little diddums will hurt themselves and then sue.
I don't know, the more I hear news like this, I feel I'm getting more bitter & twisted about living in the country. And those that can change things for the better having the lack of balls to do something about as it's more about looking after their own interests. >:(
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Or is it a case of the majority of people in this country are fed up being up in arms at the Government for their lack of 'balls' to do something about things like this. The Government not listening to us at all anyway, doing their "we're alright, so F you lot", so leads to "What's the point they won't do sweet FA, so why bother".
Any other country and they would of probably let them live in the mess and got them to rebuild it. Here they won't because they (government) are probably too worried that the little diddums will hurt themselves and then sue.
I don't know, the more I hear news like this, I feel I'm getting more bitter & twisted about living in the country. And those that can change things for the better having the lack of balls to do something about as it's more about looking after their own interests. >:(
There are many ways of looking at this GM and your analysis is as valid as any other.
In my view if people really wanted to express their concern about the way this country was governed the polling figures would be much larger than they are.
There can never be any excuse to become apathetic when such serious issues are being examined.
In the practical sense (and paradoxically) there's little there can be done about it short of widespread street protest - which can run out of control in my experience - as there seems to be little choice to be had on the political front.
I think it will take time for a popular political party, whose core value is to put the people on this country first, to come to the fore - but this can only be achieved if people become interested in the political process from the local level up and less in the television and associated distractions.
In JFK's words;
"Ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country".
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Or is it a case of the majority of people in this country are fed up being up in arms at the Government for their lack of 'balls' to do something about things like this. The Government not listening to us at all anyway, doing their "we're alright, so F you lot", so leads to "What's the point they won't do sweet FA, so why bother".
Any other country and they would of probably let them live in the mess and got them to rebuild it. Here they won't because they (government) are probably too worried that the little diddums will hurt themselves and then sue.
I don't know, the more I hear news like this, I feel I'm getting more bitter & twisted about living in the country. And those that can change things for the better having the lack of balls to do something about as it's more about looking after their own interests. >:(
There are many ways of looking at this GM and your analysis is as valid as any other.
In my view if people really wanted to express their concern about the way this country was governed the polling figures would be much larger than they are.
There can never be any excuse to become apathetic when such serious issues are being examined.
In the practical sense (and paradoxically) there's little there can be done about it short of widespread street protest - which can run out of control in my experience - as there seems to be little choice to be had on the political front.
I think it will take time for a popular political party, whose core value is to put the people on this country first, to come to the fore - but this can only be achieved if people become interested in the political process from the local level up and less in the television and associated distractions.
In JFK's words;
"Ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country".
Interesting comment there Z, but think those days are far and long gone now. If you take society as a whole, unfortunately it does look as if the generation that is coming up behind us are very much a 'take care of myself 1st, worry about everything else later'.
I don't know, maybe I've become too cynical these last few days how my personal life has taken a turn.
Whilst the JFK's quote you stated was at the time a powerful sentence in which to strike up 'being together' as a country, you have to remember that in the 60's America was very much 'the president' is a good man, as this was the way his party did well in PR. But you only have to look at behind closed doors of what we've learnt later to see all wasn't a saint figure at the end of the day. And we come back to the same thing, damage limitation and we'll make sure we're okay.
It would certainly be wonderful if we could get a government in that really did understand what the public would like and to get this country right again. Trouble is, that'll only work in the environment of films !!!!.