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Title: android phones
Post by: Richie London on 09 January 2011, 17:13:12
i keep hearing how good they are,but are they, whats there main uses comapred to my windows 6.5 samsung omnia.
and what is this ping people are getting??

http://pingchat.com/

Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Del Boy on 09 January 2011, 17:18:15
My son keeps pestering me to get pingchat, basically it's a cross platform messenger that works on blackberrys, iPhones and android phones. I know get a load of me.

Anyway get an iPhone not android  :y
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Richie London on 09 January 2011, 17:22:25
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My son keeps pestering me to get pingchat, basically it's a cross platform messenger that works on blackberrys, iPhones and android phones. I know get a load of me.

Anyway get an iPhone not android  :y


i want an i phone 4 but refuse to get a contract from three. and 450 quid is far too much to buy one. may get one later in the year. cheers del
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 January 2011, 17:36:13
htc and samsung androids are ok.. but imo not far superior than your omnia.. keep it ..
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Del Boy on 09 January 2011, 17:37:46
I know 3 do the best deal, 2000 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited Internet and £65 for the phone that's £35 a month, but I found 3 awful when I had them albeit it was when they first came about.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 January 2011, 18:02:27
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I know 3 do the best deal, 2000 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited Internet and £65 for the phone that's £35 a month, but I found 3 awful when I had them albeit it was when they first came about.

Three do have the best deals about for iPhone now... Trouble is, they know it too! I had quite a discussion with them when it was time for upgrading but got what I wanted in the end :y :y

I find that they (generally) have very good coverage now days for most of the population. It's very patchy at my house, but all the networks are.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: TheBoy on 09 January 2011, 18:49:05
If you get a Galaxy, avoid the latest firmware for now, its utter shite (shame, as previous was OK).

About the cheapest Android is one call San Fransico - about £100 on PAYG.  Not the best implementation though (that has to go to the previous firmware'd Galaxy).


Or stick with you're old Windows phone ;)
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: btc on 09 January 2011, 18:55:09
been with 3 for a few years now never realy had any props with them i have a sony x10 think its a great phone loads of apps and good signal had a go with the iphone just didn't like it poor signal and reception
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 January 2011, 18:57:47
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been with 3 for a few years now never realy had any props with them i have a sony x10 think its a great phone loads of apps and good signal had a go with the iphone just didn't like it poor signal and reception

Interesting... I've found it as good, if not better, signal wise as any of my previous smartphones :y
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2011, 19:16:11
What are people's thoughts on the Galaxy Tab?  I am tempted :y
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: TheBoy on 09 January 2011, 19:19:09
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What are people's thoughts on the Galaxy Tab?  I am tempted :y
The Android fanboyz at work say it has issues, based around the fact that they have had to kludge Android on it (Android is not available for anything other than mobiles, and according to the head honcho in charge of development never will be).


...mind you, Google said there was never going to be a new Google phone...
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 January 2011, 19:23:42
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What are people's thoughts on the Galaxy Tab?  I am tempted :y

I'm also tempted but wont fit any of my pockets ;D

Title: Re: android phones
Post by: feeutfo on 09 January 2011, 19:52:43
Check the 02 business plans for iPhone4, got 16gb for 117 plus vat and 27 a month for 300 mins unlimited texts and 02 mobiles.

Best I could find on the must have network for signal.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Richie London on 09 January 2011, 20:05:13
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I know 3 do the best deal, 2000 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited Internet and £65 for the phone that's £35 a month, but I found 3 awful when I had them albeit it was when they first came about.


i have been with them since the begining, was crap then so i had 2 phones but ive stuck with them and i think it is excellent now. my internet speed from my phone to laptop by bluetooth is faster than the dongle for some reason.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 09 January 2011, 20:23:21
Samsung Galaxy's are shite end off, I was an Android user for well over a year after being on Windows Mobile (custom build)

iPhone is much more polished experience, handsets better built, nicer to use, app store is far superior. Android market is one its biggest problems, iTunes (although crap) allows for a much better experience to browse apps
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 January 2011, 21:13:53
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Samsung Galaxy's are shite end off, I was an Android user for well over a year after being on Windows Mobile (custom build)

iPhone is much more polished experience, handsets better built, nicer to use, app store is far superior. Android market is one its biggest problems, iTunes (although crap) allows for a much better experience to browse apps

Tunnie, dont judge a mobile with its software availability on market when its new.. they are running 1 ghz processor with amoled screens..

even I'm using wave 8500 with shite Bada ;D but I'm well pleased with it.. :y (same hardware with size and minor differences)
ps: even bada accepts software certificates, that I'm using to access job mails.. wifi works perfectly.. and I can test my newly written .net aspx  pages..
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 09 January 2011, 21:19:40
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Samsung Galaxy's are shite end off, I was an Android user for well over a year after being on Windows Mobile (custom build)

iPhone is much more polished experience, handsets better built, nicer to use, app store is far superior. Android market is one its biggest problems, iTunes (although crap) allows for a much better experience to browse apps

Tunnie, dont judge a mobile with its software availability on market when its new.. they are running 1 ghz processor with amoled screens..

even I'm using wave 8500 with shite Bada ;D but I'm well pleased with it.. :y

Not just new, got several Android phones here ranging from Galaxy to HTC Desire to the woeful Motorola Flip Blur. Can't help compare them to my works iPhone, none of them come close.

Early days they were not amazing, i'll admit, and it took Apple way to long to put copy and paste on a phone. But its sooo easy to use, compare that to andorid its a b!tch to use! Especially when trying to grab just one word on a huge page.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 January 2011, 21:22:54
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Samsung Galaxy's are shite end off, I was an Android user for well over a year after being on Windows Mobile (custom build)

iPhone is much more polished experience, handsets better built, nicer to use, app store is far superior. Android market is one its biggest problems, iTunes (although crap) allows for a much better experience to browse apps

Tunnie, dont judge a mobile with its software availability on market when its new.. they are running 1 ghz processor with amoled screens..

even I'm using wave 8500 with shite Bada ;D but I'm well pleased with it.. :y

Not just new, got several Android phones here ranging from Galaxy to HTC Desire to the woeful Motorola Flip Blur. Can't help compare them to my works iPhone, none of them come close.

Early days they were not amazing, i'll admit, and it took Apple way to long to put copy and paste on a phone. But its sooo easy to use, compare that to andorid its a b!tch to use! Especially when trying to grab just one word on a huge page.

iphone usage may be easier.. but not worth that price difference imo.. here is twice my phone..
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 09 January 2011, 21:26:56
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Samsung Galaxy's are shite end off, I was an Android user for well over a year after being on Windows Mobile (custom build)

iPhone is much more polished experience, handsets better built, nicer to use, app store is far superior. Android market is one its biggest problems, iTunes (although crap) allows for a much better experience to browse apps

Tunnie, dont judge a mobile with its software availability on market when its new.. they are running 1 ghz processor with amoled screens..

even I'm using wave 8500 with shite Bada ;D but I'm well pleased with it.. :y

Not just new, got several Android phones here ranging from Galaxy to HTC Desire to the woeful Motorola Flip Blur. Can't help compare them to my works iPhone, none of them come close.

Early days they were not amazing, i'll admit, and it took Apple way to long to put copy and paste on a phone. But its sooo easy to use, compare that to andorid its a b!tch to use! Especially when trying to grab just one word on a huge page.

iphone usage may be easier.. but not worth that price difference imo.. here is twice my phone..

That is a huge factor, its also the original reason I went for Android over iPhone as Apple policy means no free handsets! Which was bread and butter of contracts for ages, free phone!

But now I get free iPhone and no bills  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 January 2011, 21:29:42
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Samsung Galaxy's are shite end off, I was an Android user for well over a year after being on Windows Mobile (custom build)

iPhone is much more polished experience, handsets better built, nicer to use, app store is far superior. Android market is one its biggest problems, iTunes (although crap) allows for a much better experience to browse apps

Tunnie, dont judge a mobile with its software availability on market when its new.. they are running 1 ghz processor with amoled screens..

even I'm using wave 8500 with shite Bada ;D but I'm well pleased with it.. :y

Not just new, got several Android phones here ranging from Galaxy to HTC Desire to the woeful Motorola Flip Blur. Can't help compare them to my works iPhone, none of them come close.

Early days they were not amazing, i'll admit, and it took Apple way to long to put copy and paste on a phone. But its sooo easy to use, compare that to andorid its a b!tch to use! Especially when trying to grab just one word on a huge page.

iphone usage may be easier.. but not worth that price difference imo.. here is twice my phone..

That is a huge factor, its also the original reason I went for Android over iPhone as Apple policy means no free handsets! Which was bread and butter of contracts for ages, free phone!

But now I get free iPhone and no bills  ::)  ;D

I would also like an iphone for free but not for 1000 euros.. :-/

Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 09 January 2011, 21:30:43
1,000 Euros  :o :o :o :o :o :o

With the cr@py exchange range thats about £1,000  :o

Must be lot cheaper to buy one here, get it unlocked and ship it to spain?  :-/
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 January 2011, 21:33:14
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1,000 Euros  :o :o :o :o :o :o

With the cr@py exchange range thats about £1,000  :o

Must be lot cheaper to buy one here, get it unlocked and ship it to spain?  :-/

Or even Turkey :-X :P ::) :D
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 January 2011, 21:34:53
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1,000 Euros  :o :o :o :o :o :o

With the cr@py exchange range thats about £1,000  :o

Must be lot cheaper to buy one here, get it unlocked and ship it to spain?  :-/

yep.. my country is expensive and they got enormous profits.. :-/
http://www.akakce.com/cep-telefonu/en-ucuz-apple-iphone-4-16gb-fiyati,362665.html
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 09 January 2011, 21:38:27
bl00dy hell thats expensive  :o
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Gaffers on 09 January 2011, 22:01:48
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Check the 02 business plans for iPhone4, got 16gb for 117 plus vat and 27 a month for 300 mins unlimited texts and 02 mobiles.

Best I could find on the must have network for signal.

was that a 24 month contract?
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 January 2011, 22:09:39
The Three deals are pretty good to be fair...

http://www.three.co.uk/Phones/iPhone/Plans
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: feeutfo on 09 January 2011, 22:54:07
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Check the 02 business plans for iPhone4, got 16gb for 117 plus vat and 27 a month for 300 mins unlimited texts and 02 mobiles.

Best I could find on the must have network for signal.

was that a 24 month contract?
Yes, but qualify for upgrade after 12 months
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 January 2011, 08:19:39
Love my Android.

Its compact and rugged.

Does email, facebook, a bit of web browsing and the apps side is more than good enough (and easy to use).

Phone reception is very good, battery life acceptable and the call quality is good to.

Its also VERY stable (its now on 2.1)

So it ticks all the boxes for me
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Richie London on 10 January 2011, 09:03:13
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Love my Android.

Its compact and rugged.

Does email, facebook, a bit of web browsing and the apps side is more than good enough (and easy to use).

Phone reception is very good, battery life acceptable and the call quality is good to.

Its also VERY stable (its now on 2.1)

So it ticks all the boxes for me


are you on facebook then mark?? i really dont know half of whos who on here and there.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: bigboykarl on 10 January 2011, 10:08:21
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Love my Android.

Its compact and rugged.

Does email, facebook, a bit of web browsing and the apps side is more than good enough (and easy to use).

Phone reception is very good, battery life acceptable and the call quality is good to.

Its also VERY stable (its now on 2.1)

So it ticks all the boxes for me
snap...except running 2.2
battery life of my desire could be better
only fault really
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: jtypecav on 10 January 2011, 16:22:13
Android is a fantastic platform and people forget it's in it's fledgling open days. Clients at work have them doing all sorts of fantastic things with robotics and home automation and they love the phone over the iphone. I've ordered thousands of samsung screens but never really got on with their phone hardware over hte long term. HTC have been in the business of mobile devices for a long time, I do trust the hardware, just not the battery life if you are a HEAVY user!  Dreading supporting the dual core ones and the gaming side of things is only just starting to be a contender.

Personally, I love my android. It does more, more effectively than any other phone I've owned, and I'm a heavy user on O2. From remote controlling servers and NAS while I'm out to syncing all my calendars and google accounts in one easy place. Of course all smart phones are much of a much, but if you want decent OTA updates an unlocked HTC you won't be far wrong. Open platforms, open software, less drm = win.

*edit* This site is quite good for up and coming android bits and pieces: http://androidandme.com/
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: TheBoy on 10 January 2011, 18:29:11
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Love my Android.

Its compact and rugged.

Does email, facebook, a bit of web browsing and the apps side is more than good enough (and easy to use).

Phone reception is very good, battery life acceptable and the call quality is good to.

Its also VERY stable (its now on 2.1)

So it ticks all the boxes for me
Thats the key :y

I'm sure the useless student's gayPhone ticks all his boxes, but it would appear that he and many others struggle to understand others have different needs.


I (reluctantly) had to go gay to get the best compromises for my needs....
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: TheBoy on 10 January 2011, 18:35:38
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Android is a fantastic platform and people forget it's in it's fledgling open days. Clients at work have them doing all sorts of fantastic things with robotics and home automation and they love the phone over the iphone. I've ordered thousands of samsung screens but never really got on with their phone hardware over hte long term. HTC have been in the business of mobile devices for a long time, I do trust the hardware, just not the battery life if you are a HEAVY user!  Dreading supporting the dual core ones and the gaming side of things is only just starting to be a contender.

Personally, I love my android. It does more, more effectively than any other phone I've owned, and I'm a heavy user on O2. From remote controlling servers and NAS while I'm out to syncing all my calendars and google accounts in one easy place. Of course all smart phones are much of a much, but if you want decent OTA updates an unlocked HTC you won't be far wrong. Open platforms, open software, less drm = win.

*edit* This site is quite good for up and coming android bits and pieces: http://androidandme.com/
IMHO, HTC started smoking some bad stuff about 3yrs ago, and never recovered. Hence, the crap such as Touch Pro and Xperia X1 -2 of the worse phones ever made.  It would take an awful lot before I bought another - certainly none of their current junk tempts me

We have a large Android fanboys club at our place - I too work in that kind of environment.  It would appear the Galaxy is probably the most stable and usable (not on 2.2 though, thats poor!).  Does seem my Android friends are regularly rebooting though - but they are fellow geeks, and thus 'overuse' them.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: wakeyomega on 10 January 2011, 18:48:09
Just to add in my personal experience to the debate. I've had the HTC desire since it came out, and on 2.2 for the last few months. I'm a fairly heavy user and it hasn't missed a beat so far. Virtually never reboot it. I do charge it every day because it is, in effect, a PDA with telephony, (and it last longer than my IPAQ ever did!).
I'm sure there is no 'right' answer to 'which phone', as TB says, it depends on user requirements. If anyone is seriously considering the htc desire and have any questions before deciding, feel free to pm me.

Pat
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Entwood on 10 January 2011, 20:28:35
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Love my Android.

Its compact and rugged.

Does email, facebook, a bit of web browsing and the apps side is more than good enough (and easy to use).

Phone reception is very good, battery life acceptable and the call quality is good to.

Its also VERY stable (its now on 2.1)

So it ticks all the boxes for me
snap...except running 2.2
battery life of my desire could be better
only fault really


These two "tips" seem to make a large difference to any HTC battery life .. no idea why ... but  they seem to work

Post #33 on page 2 of this thread  :

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2523297

and

post #29 of

http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Desire/HTC-Desire-Hints-and-Tips/td-p/382490/page/2

HTH  :)
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2011, 20:38:31
key battery saving for any modern phone, is to bring down the brightness, turn off 3G and make sure background app data useage is kept to a minimum
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 January 2011, 20:42:52
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key battery saving for any modern phone, is to bring down the brightness, turn off 3G and make sure background app data useage is kept to a minimum

Turn off 3G, no chance, why would you want to do that!

It will save some battery power but its the key data channel for a mobile smart phone.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2011, 20:49:27
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key battery saving for any modern phone, is to bring down the brightness, turn off 3G and make sure background app data useage is kept to a minimum

Turn off 3G, no chance, why would you want to do that!

It will save some battery power but its the key data channel for a mobile smart phone.

As pointed out some people have other needs! Not everyone web browses, or if they do its not very regular.

It takes just 5 seconds to tap settings > general > network, and flip 3G on/off.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: tunnie on 10 January 2011, 20:50:44
Ohh and add to that the feking useless Vodafone has shyte 3G coverage! Despite what their advertising says
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Turk on 10 January 2011, 20:51:59
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Just to add in my personal experience to the debate. I've had the HTC desire since it came out, and on 2.2 for the last few months. I'm a fairly heavy user and it hasn't missed a beat so far. Virtually never reboot it. I do charge it every day because it is, in effect, a PDA with telephony, (and it last longer than my IPAQ ever did!).
I'm sure there is no 'right' answer to 'which phone', as TB says, it depends on user requirements. If anyone is seriously considering the htc desire and have any questions before deciding, feel free to pm me.

Pat

:y Yep, happy with my HTC Desire too.
I've had a fiddle with my friends gayPhone and I have to agree on the general build quality and finish, but that's about it for me.
Only issue with the HTC Desire is the 'rather average' speakerphone, but I have a Bluetooth system in the car, so it's not that big an issue.
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 January 2011, 21:31:30
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key battery saving for any modern phone, is to bring down the brightness, turn off 3G and make sure background app data useage is kept to a minimum

not only 3G , also navigation services.. (and wifi also)

I active them only when they are necessary..
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: jtypecav on 11 January 2011, 01:08:26
It might not be as pretty as some of the more recent HTC's but the Desire is still a fantastic handset. My gran (in her 80's) has a Wildfire and loves that too. It was bizarre, I was trying to make her get a more basic one. I almost fell of my chair when she said she wanted it for getting her laptop online!
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: blackviper90210 on 11 January 2011, 07:57:46
At the end of the day, its personal choice. What is great for one person is not so good for another.
A friend of mine swears by her iPhone, but personally I'm not keen on them.
I got the HTC Desire when it came out last year and was well happy with it, then they brought out the Desire HD.
Absolutely amazing. Large screen, fast web browsing, good apps etc, can't fault it!!    ;)
Title: Re: android phones
Post by: Gaffers on 11 January 2011, 11:19:00
I am stuck really.  I am looking for a new phone/pda/tablet and I am torn between Galaxy Tab, iPhone and the Xoom thats coming out in Feb.

I need it to be able to use some sailing apps which are available on Android and iPhone, play music and films, is stable and can last more than a day running a couple of apps.