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Title: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Lioned on 14 January 2011, 22:15:12
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pI6oV_70_P0/TTCISxitZ2I/AAAAAAAAAFA/X6rfcwNb6mI/s800/USS%20JFK.jpg)
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Lioned on 14 January 2011, 22:18:59
For those that are interested it is the USS JFK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_%28CV-67%29
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Andy B on 14 January 2011, 22:19:31
do we know what it is?
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Lioned on 14 January 2011, 22:20:30
sorry see above.Thought it might interest some here.

I think it is pictured in the docks in Malta.
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Andy B on 14 January 2011, 22:26:48
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sorry see above.Thought it might interest some here.

Thanks! I was in Mombasa in ..... er 1985 :-/ and USS Kitty Hawk dropped anchor outside of the harbour. There were something like 5000 crew on it,  & even when were miles apart it looked huge! They (US crew) reckoned that fwd & aft of the ship were separate drafts!  :o
I'm sure that Nige will correct me if needed, but I believe that these types of US carrier carry more fighter aircraft than the RAF own.
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Amigo on 14 January 2011, 22:52:54
You have to look twice to realize the scale of the vessel to it's surroundings & how hard the tugs are working to dock it. :y
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Post by: Shimmy on 14 January 2011, 22:58:43
Imagine playing battleship with that, can't miss!

Then again, would take a while to sink it  :P
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Post by: zirax on 14 January 2011, 23:03:49
I think I know what the boat is and we have some smaller ones. As for the funny flying things, we don't use them on our boats..... well not for 10+ years anyway.  :D
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Post by: Vamps on 14 January 2011, 23:04:31
Miss Vamps says that she has bigger ducks in the bath... :D :D  Yes, she should be in bed... :-X
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: tunnie on 15 January 2011, 10:20:15
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For those that are interested it is the USS JFK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_%28CV-67%29

Just read through that, very interesting!

Does dwarf anything we have, I wonder if that was going through the minds of the morons who run MOD?

USA have loads of ships and planes, let them deal with it?  :-/
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Post by: Debs. on 15 January 2011, 10:32:27
Wow! :o

......and look at all the crew `ranged in dress uniform around the flight-deck; what a wonderful sight! 8-)
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 January 2011, 11:28:02
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sorry see above.Thought it might interest some here.

I think it is pictured in the docks in Malta.



Yes it is, just along from what was known as the Customers House landing, and opposite the ex-site of "number 8 buoy" were the great ships (usually RN in the great days!) moored.   Crucifix Hill, the road that goes up from dock level to Florina is visible on the right hand side.  "Harper House" where I lived as a kid is on that road and overlooked the Grand Harbour, and number 8 buoy in particular. The Customs House area and along were the carrier is docking has been redeveloped since my time, and now big ships, like passenger liners and naval craft dock directly alongside the shore, with No 8 buoy now removed.

Even the USA are feeling the financial pressures, and are now down to 11 carriers.  This particular one was decommissioned in 2007, and is now a potential museum piece. ;) ;)
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Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 January 2011, 12:13:20
....................and this is a reverse picture, viewed from the battlements above the road into Valletta, of ships of the Royal Navy's Mediterranean Fleet in 1935, moored at number 8 and, if I remember correctly, number 9 buoys firing a salute on King George V Silver Jubilee:

(http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk247/lizziefreeman/All%20Things%20Interesting/RNMalta1935-1.jpg)

 ;) ;)
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: aaronjb on 15 January 2011, 13:19:36
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For those that are interested it is the USS JFK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_%28CV-67%29

Just read through that, very interesting!

Does dwarf anything we have, I wonder if that was going through the minds of the morons who run MOD?

USA have loads of ships and planes, let them deal with it?  :-/

Possibly that we have a lot less money and a lot less people than they do?
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: sotmh on 15 January 2011, 14:04:01
Does dwarf anything we have, I wonder if that was going through the minds of the morons who run MOD?

USA have loads of ships and planes let them deal with it?   

Possibly that we have a lot less money and a lot less people than they do?


Posted by: Lizzie 



That's definitely the case.  If anyone has ever seen how the americans treat their soldiers, there can be no doubt, regardless of their financial difficulties.  They have always done things biggerand been more brasher.

I have no qualms in this as, if the money is there then why not use it for your fighting men, just as it should be used to help those in need.
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Post by: Lioned on 15 January 2011, 14:22:46
We are in the process of building two of our own 'super carriers'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-470710/Navys-20bn-super-carriers-ahead-years.html

(this from an article in july 08)
The Royal Navy was promoted into the maritime superleague yesterday when ministers signed the long-awaited contract for two 65,000-tonne aircraft carriers.

They will be the second biggest of their kind in the world, each the size of the QE2. Only the American Nimitz Class aircraft carriers, at 90,000 tonnes, have a more impressive tonnage.

The Ministry of Defence went ahead despite a stretched defence budget and murmurings about the near £4 billion price tag and the wisdom of building such huge warships.


managed to find a bit of spare cash then
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 January 2011, 14:31:21
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Does dwarf anything we have, I wonder if that was going through the minds of the morons who run MOD?

USA have loads of ships and planes let them deal with it?   

Possibly that we have a lot less money and a lot less people than they do?


Posted by: Lizzie 



That's definitely the case.  If anyone has ever seen how the americans treat their soldiers, there can be no doubt, regardless of their financial difficulties.  They have always done things biggerand been more brasher.

I have no qualms in this as, if the money is there then why not use it for your fighting men, just as it should be used to help those in need.


No, that quote was posted by Tunnie ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: tunnie on 15 January 2011, 14:33:07
these the ones that are not due until approx 2020? I thought they would use Euro fighters, but in caption it says: £10billion for a fleet of 150 American-built Joint Strike Fighters.

Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 January 2011, 14:33:13
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We are in the process of building two of our own 'super carriers'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-470710/Navys-20bn-super-carriers-ahead-years.html

(this from an article in july 08)
The Royal Navy was promoted into the maritime superleague yesterday when ministers signed the long-awaited contract for two 65,000-tonne aircraft carriers.

They will be the second biggest of their kind in the world, each the size of the QE2. Only the American Nimitz Class aircraft carriers, at 90,000 tonnes, have a more impressive tonnage.

The Ministry of Defence went ahead despite a stretched defence budget and murmurings about the near £4 billion price tag and the wisdom of building such huge warships.


managed to find a bit of spare cash then


This is an old news story now, and although the government has decided to carry on building these carriers, it seems certain one will be sold / lent to France! ::) ::)
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Post by: tunnie on 15 January 2011, 14:35:09
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We are in the process of building two of our own 'super carriers'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-470710/Navys-20bn-super-carriers-ahead-years.html

(this from an article in july 08)
The Royal Navy was promoted into the maritime superleague yesterday when ministers signed the long-awaited contract for two 65,000-tonne aircraft carriers.

They will be the second biggest of their kind in the world, each the size of the QE2. Only the American Nimitz Class aircraft carriers, at 90,000 tonnes, have a more impressive tonnage.

The Ministry of Defence went ahead despite a stretched defence budget and murmurings about the near £4 billion price tag and the wisdom of building such huge warships.


managed to find a bit of spare cash then


This is an old news story now, and although the government has decided to carry on building these carriers, it seems certain one will be sold / lent to France! ::) ::)

By the time they are built, hopefully i will be better times!
Title: Re: This Is Quite A Big Boat.........
Post by: sotmh on 15 January 2011, 14:35:13
I'm not one to rain  on anyones parade but when these are finally built and undergone sea trials before being commisioned, it will be a while yet and I wonder if they will still hold that position.

Also, we must not forget to ask the question whether they will be still looked upon as something other nations, eg. France, can use as they wish, regardless of the concord drawn up. ::)