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Title: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 15 January 2011, 17:37:49

Hi all..
Any ideas on this one !!!!!!!!!

Computer starts to boot up...gets to Windows emblem...then cuts out. >:(
Next try goes to 'Last known config/Safe mode' page.
Have got it started in safe mode....I then shut it down, restarted and it ran perfect. Restarted a few more times ..no problems.
Leave a few hours and it does it again. Once it has booted up it runs fine and dandy. :y
What I have done to try to remedy, is as follows.....fitted new HD (changed from IDE to SATA)...fitted new PSU...removed RAM and swapped around (fitting singly then doubled)....removed PCI-E card and used onboard graphics.
Only thing I have not done is removed CPU and Heatsink....could it be this?
Have reloaded Windows and updated to SP3.
Personally, I think it may have to be a case of strip it all out and start again. :(

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Plomien on 15 January 2011, 17:39:43

sounds like a program on startup causing the issue or a driver

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 15 January 2011, 17:51:11

Thanks Plomien.. :y

I never really thought about the drivers..
I have only put Windows Office, AVG Virus Scanner, the MB drivers (usb hub and Ethernet and video) and Nvidia driver for PCI-E graphics in....so I suppose its a wipedown and start afresh, trying after windows initial install, then invidual drivers and programmes. :y
If the Heatsink fan was under load at startup, would that shut the system right down.
BTW, when I say it shuts down, it is a full shutdown (audible click then instant total power off)...not a restart shutdown........ :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Plomien on 15 January 2011, 18:10:52

to check the cpu heat strain download speedfan to monitor the temp :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: TheBoy on 15 January 2011, 18:21:19

Given the symptoms, I'd be more inclined to think about an update coming down...

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2011, 19:28:31

check the system , application events and also bootlogs

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 15 January 2011, 19:40:53

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check the system , application events and also bootlogs

Where is this info...in the Bios ?? :)

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: TheBoy on 15 January 2011, 19:41:53

Start > Run
eventvwr

will get logs

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 15 January 2011, 19:46:53

Thanks J  :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2011, 19:50:11

also

http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-enable-boot-logging-for-fixing-startup-problems-in-windows.html

http://www.windowsreference.com/general/how-to-create-a-bootlog-in-windows-2000xp-and-later/


http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb457123.aspx

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2011, 19:55:06

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-installation-setup/136823-where-vista-keeps-boot-log-if-any.html

http://www.computing.net/answers/windows-95/bootlogtxt/130772.html

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 15 January 2011, 19:59:08

Thanks Cem :y

Following all advice given :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2011, 20:00:27

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Thanks Cem :y

Following all advice given :y

 :y :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Mysteryman on 15 January 2011, 20:01:22

Also check here

www.buyanewcomputeryoutightbastard.com :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2011, 20:03:52

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Also check here

www.buyanewcomputeryoutightbastard.com :y

 ;D ;D STMO as usual ;D from where the hell you find that ;D :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 15 January 2011, 20:18:38

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Also check here

www.buyanewcomputeryoutightbastard.com :y

 ;D ;D STMO as usual ;D from where the hell you find that ;D :y

I have taken your advice STMO  :y
The company just need your address now to send the invoice before I click 'Buy'  :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 January 2011, 20:31:45

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Also check here

www.buyanewcomputeryoutightbastard.com :y

 ;D ;D STMO as usual ;D from where the hell you find that ;D :y

I have taken your advice STMO  :y
The company just need your address now to send the invoice before I click 'Buy'  :y

 ;D ;D STMO , prepare the money ;D :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 15 January 2011, 20:43:56

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Also check here

www.buyanewcomputeryoutightbastard.com :y

 ;D ;D ;D ;D Outstanding  ;D :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Andy H on 15 January 2011, 21:59:10

SWMBOs laptop suffered the 'black screen of death' about a year ago.

My plan was to recover her personal data and either fix windows or re-install it so I downloaded an Ubuntu recovery disk and left her to sift through the hard disk contents.

After a week of running from the live CD I shrank the windows partition to make space for an Ubuntu install (to allow it to run at a sensible speed).

A year on and Ubuntu is still in use. I never did find out how to fix the windows registry and Ubuntu 'just works'.

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 16 January 2011, 11:28:09

Latest update on the computer is that it now boots to the windows flag emblem....then goes no further, just sits there with the emblem and the blue moving line below it. Left it for ten minutes and it still shows the same screen >:(  I will try to get it to boot in safe mode,  and run the tests you have provided earlier :y
Really baffling me, this one >:(

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Shackeng on 16 January 2011, 11:47:56

Stupid I know, but you have tried system restore from Safe mode? eggs grandmas etc...........

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 16 January 2011, 11:56:26

Not a stupid question at all, Shackeng.... ;)
That was next in line...however, in safe mode it locks on the page that scrolls down all the drivers...you know the one...Multi (0)Disk(0)RD13K.....Partition(1)\Windows \Sys32\ Drivers\ WMILIB.sys......or very near to that :y Fills the screen then locks. :(

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Shackeng on 16 January 2011, 12:01:05

Ahh yes I know the page. Hmm sorry, that's now beyond my pay grade :-?  Good luck :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Shackeng on 16 January 2011, 12:04:18

Last time I had a failure I had to use a rescue disc to extract all my files and then reformat and re-install Windows. It only took about half a day. I can't remember the disc, I borrowed it from a friend, but it works from the pre-boot stage. HTH :y

Title: Re: Computer issue
Post by: Terbs on 16 January 2011, 12:08:09

Not a problem mate.... :y
I have decided to pull it apart, check all connections, in a full rebuild, then reload windows and see what happens :y
I shall then install and run each set of drivers for the motherboard (usb, on board video, ethernet) and see if it runs and do the same for each piece of software I install.
Can't see any other option as it won't boot at all :'(

Other option of purchase gone as STMO123 has gone quiet since I suggested he pays for it ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D