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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 30 January 2011, 18:37:13
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British scientists are refining the recipe for a hydrogen-based fuel that will run in existing cars and engines at the fraction of the cost of conventional petrol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1351341/Relief-pumps-Revolutionary-hydrogen-fuel-cost-just-90p-GALLON-run-existing-cars.html
Well, 90p until the government intervenes, then it'll go up to £6 per gallon.
Nevertheless, another great British invention perchance? :y :y
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top points go to those scientists :y :y :y :y
I hope will be abundant so this middle east fight will come to an end.. :) And I can use my miggy more ;D
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British scientists are refining the recipe for a hydrogen-based fuel that will run in existing cars and engines at the fraction of the cost of conventional petrol.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1351341/Relief-pumps-Revolutionary-hydrogen-fuel-cost-just-90p-GALLON-run-existing-cars.html
Well, 90p until the government intervenes, then it'll go up to £6 per gallon.
Nevertheless, another great British invention perchance? :y :y
Exactly, or in the case of veg oil, when Tesco realised why thier sales had suddenly shot up then so did thier prices. :-/
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Lets say petrol is £1.35 /l
I can just imagine the gov't rubbing their hands with glee when they can make the alternative cheaply for say 19p /L and then taxing it to £1.35 /L.
"Look everyone, we've solved the deficit ..... don't forget we are in the together....... Huh? Feeding time at the trough? *gobble gobble*"
Cynical... moi? ;D :y
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one old economist say "petrol is the tool to tax masses but the actual reason is govts cant tax rich" :(
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if you deduct the taxes currently on our fuel, how much is it currently per gallon??
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if you deduct the taxes currently on our fuel, how much is it currently per gallon??
http://www.petrolprices.com/price-of-petrol.html
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so about 70p is pure tax??
the news would be interesting if someone drove a tank through the gates of downing street and into number 10 through the wall wouldnt it
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so about 70p is pure tax??
the news would be interesting if someone drove a tank through the gates of downing street and into number 10 through the wall wouldnt it
who could afford to run a tank
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it would be a one-off journey
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i've always thought this would be possible, petrol just a liquid that is vaporised and ignited, the bang moves the cylinder, we can make loads of things go bang without need for oil!
Guess its just a case of refining production methods, so we can get vast amounts for minimal costs.
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Hmm, dont know if they could put a heavy tax on it? because they say tax is heavy on petrol because of the greenhouse gases it produces? they keep saying because of green issues and carbon footprints we tax it heavily to stop people using it?
on that basis if its completley zero emissions how can they mjustify heavy taxes?
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Hmm, dont know if they could put a heavy tax on it? because they say tax is heavy on petrol because of the greenhouse gases it produces? they keep saying because of green issues and carbon footprints we tax it heavily to stop people using it?
on that basis if its completley zero emissions how can they mjustify heavy taxes?
we have a local saying here "no law ? make law" ;D
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my understanding was that hydrogen would have a detremental effect on metal/the car itself... hence why its not used in current road going cars?
presumably cars that take hydrogen would have a special petrol tank???
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thats going to be problem, storing the fuel, maybe its a next-gen LPG? :-/
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my understanding was that hydrogen would have a detremental effect on metal/the car itself... hence why its not used in current road going cars?
presumably cars that take hydrogen would have a special petrol tank???
The same problem exists with alcohol fuels such as e85 but almost 100% of the fuel system in a car is plastic these days so I don't see a problem.
Kevin
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my understanding was that hydrogen would have a detremental effect on metal/the car itself... hence why its not used in current road going cars?
presumably cars that take hydrogen would have a special petrol tank???
The same problem exists with alcohol fuels such as e85 but almost 100% of the fuel system in a car is plastic these days so I don't see a problem.
Kevin
In addition, I think the following are the qualifying factors for the anticipated use of the fuel in existing technologies;
A new technology that allows hydrogen to be stored in a cheap and practical way
The company has found a low-cost way to trap the hydride compound inside a nano-porous polymer micro bead
The way I read this is that the process gets round the need to have special storage vessels (such as a fuel tank) in order to prevent evaporation and problems with volatility in the event of damage resulting from a collision.
The issue of taxation is another matter as it’s always difficult for governments to resist the temptation to maintain high prices when so many people seem resigned to paying them.
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so about 70p is pure tax??
the news would be interesting if someone drove a tank through the gates of downing street and into number 10 through the wall wouldnt it
who could afford to run a tank
And what happens to the fish afterwards? :D