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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: millwall on 03 February 2011, 23:01:10
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anyone got the 50 mb broadband on virgin im on the vip 20 package but getting vip 50 on the 16th will there be a lot of difference between 20 mb and 50 mb
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Depends what you're doing..
In terms of browsing the net? Nope, you probably won't notice any difference.
Downloading files? Half the time you're speed-limited by the source server anyway so .. that depends what and how you're downloading.
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i only really download music only took it as bizarely it makes my package 3 pound cheaper a month ;D
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I always get confused why the average/advanced home user pays a lot of money for an Uber fast Internet connection.
Even for streaming HD movies, a 20Mb/s connection is overkill.
Even massive corporations who use t'interweb to back up Gigabytes of data every hour/evening cant make use of a silly download speed.
What this country needs is a massive increase of Upload speed! That will make the Internet a proper network!
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theyve just upped the upload speed apparently not sure of the figures though
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theyve just upped the upload speed apparently not sure of the figures though
Just as an example, Romania has an AVERAGE upload speed 10x faster than the AVERAGE UK upload speed.
Their average download speed is less than 2.5x the average UK download speed.
I haven't chosen Romania as a comparison just because they are an exception, this is true for the majority of the world.
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Yep, 50Mbit now comes with 5Mbit upstream (although most speedtests tend to top out at about 3.8Mbit, it's hard to know if that's Virgin or the speedtest host). Though they monitor and rate shape/cap the upstream quite heavily and overuse will lead to your downstream being nobbled hard.
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just checked my upload speed will be 5mbps which means sod all to me
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just checked my upload speed will be 5mbps which means sod all to me
In all honesty, Fibre Optic is generally 'What you see is what you get', but I'll chew off my own left bollock if you get anywhere near 5Mb/s after 3 months of service!
Such a technologically advanced country the UK is, yet we reign 64th in the Internet Connection list. Premiership we are not!
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just checked my upload speed will be 5mbps which means sod all to me
In all honesty, Fibre Optic is generally 'What you see is what you get', but I'll chew off my own left bollock if you get anywhere near 5Mb/s after 3 months of service!
Such a technologically advanced country the UK is, yet we reign 64th in the Internet Connection list. Premiership we are not!
i will chew off both my 'dangle berries' if it lasts a month ;D ;D
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just checked my upload speed will be 5mbps which means sod all to me
Just did a speedtest on mine and my upload speed is 384kbps >:( >:(
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just checked my upload speed will be 5mbps which means sod all to me
In all honesty, Fibre Optic is generally 'What you see is what you get', but I'll chew off my own left bollock if you get anywhere near 5Mb/s after 3 months of service!
Such a technologically advanced country the UK is, yet we reign 64th in the Internet Connection list. Premiership we are not!
I forget when they upgraded the upstream - must be at least two or three months ago now;
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141682864.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Anyway, upstream is really not an issue for probably 90% of users - then again, neither is 50Mbit downstream. How many people do you know who upload more than a few emails? (And no, torrents don't count)
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141682931.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I get upto 8Mb connection free as part of the telephone package (I make a lot of international calls, so TalkTalk are the only company I will go with)
Not too bad seeing as I'm a million miles from the exchange. They are running my connection on what I told them to and not what they 'thought' was best though.
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just checked my upload speed will be 5mbps which means sod all to me
In all honesty, Fibre Optic is generally 'What you see is what you get', but I'll chew off my own left bollock if you get anywhere near 5Mb/s after 3 months of service!
Such a technologically advanced country the UK is, yet we reign 64th in the Internet Connection list. Premiership we are not!
I forget when they upgraded the upstream - must be at least two or three months ago now;
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141682864.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Anyway, upstream is really not an issue for probably 90% of users - then again, neither is 50Mbit downstream. How many people do you know who upload more than a few emails? (And no, torrents don't count)
A few years ago, I'd very much agree with you, but the Upstream Speed is now as important as Downstream Speed.
Take your Games Console as one example.
Video 'conferencing' to your relatives in the USA or Aus as another.
I am exceptionally pleased that Virgin have taken the first step to a 'decent' connection. BT are supposedly spending billions on converting all copper to Fibre Optic in the next decade. A step which has taken far too long to implement.
It's a real boggle when far poorer, less technologically developed countries can trounce on our 'technological brilliance'.
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I was getting just under 7Mb until I changed my modem.
Now it's:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141694883.png)
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I have Virgin Media 20Mb with my XL package and just tested mine on Speedtest.net. Results were;
Download 19.42 Mb/s.
Upload 1.86 Mb/s.
Ping 56ms
Server was at Gloucester 100 miles away.
Funily enough tested again with a nearer server at Milton Keynes which is only 20 miles away and although ping was 45ms and upload 1.95 Mb/s, download was only 18.2 Mb/s. I have no probs with 20Mb at the moment and i`m quite satisfied with what i`ve got. :y
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141694883.png)
Good Darts Turk. I take it you live next door to your BT exchange? ;D
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this is what i get on 20mb
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141700977.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
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this is what i get on 20mb
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141700977.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Judging by those figures, when you switch to 50Mb, you'll have one of the best domestic internet connections in the UK! :y
You wont notice a difference though :P ;)
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this is what i get on 20mb
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141700977.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Judging by those figures, when you switch to 50Mb, you'll have one of the best domestic internet connections in the UK! :y
You wont notice a difference though :P ;)
i know ;D still i will be saving a few quid each month ;D ;D
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the funny thing is they are now doing 100mb maybe we will start to catch up with other countries
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141729688.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I take it my results aren't good then :'( :'(
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141729688.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I take it my results aren't good then :'( :'(
If I were you, I'd be on the phone to Sky asking why your connection is piss poor!
That's also considering that Sky PROMISE to never throttle their connections!
Of course, you could have a problem in your home telephone wiring..... how far is the Router from the Master Socket? Who wired it?
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You wont notice a difference though
As mentioned above, depends what you do. Standard browsing? nope...
But if your downloading OS updates, downloading loads of torrents, streaming music, and playing games online all at the same time, yes you do notice it ;)
My connection is not so bad:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1142114888.png)
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1142137887.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Better than I expected TBH. I live in the sticks and BT have no intentions of upgrading the exchange >:( >:(
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the funny thing is they are now doing 100mb maybe we will start to catch up with other countries
I think it's still only going to be 5Mb upstream - in fact I suspect the upstream was upgraded purely to support 100Mb down, because you need at least enough upstream bandwidth to support ACK packets being sent out fast enough to maintain your downstream connection speed (otherwise the connection will throttle back - at least TCP will, UDP doesn't care).. and now 50% of your eyes have glazed over.. moving swiftly on! ;D (Guess what I used to do for a living.. ;D)
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Depends what you're doing..
In terms of browsing the net? Nope, you probably won't notice any difference.
Downloading files? Half the time you're speed-limited by the source server anyway so .. that depends what and how you're downloading.
Funny you say that, I feel web sites have become slower to load over the years as speeds have increased.
When I first dot 512mb ADSL I cant remember the PC specs but maybe Pentuim 2 which meant 450 mhz at best with 15/32 Graphics and web pages loaded in the blink of an eye. Now I have quad/dual core PC's with 4GB ram and 1GB HDMI Graphics and most pages seem to take thier time loading.
Shame Video on Demand and other Downloading cant be run independentky to good old simple browsing.
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1141729688.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
I take it my results aren't good then :'( :'(
If I were you, I'd be on the phone to Sky asking why your connection is piss poor!
That's also considering that Sky PROMISE to never throttle their connections!
Of course, you could have a problem in your home telephone wiring..... how far is the Router from the Master Socket? Who wired it?
Router is on an extension so i don't suppose that will help(12ft), does the laptop need to be hardwired to the modem thing when running a speedteset or is it ok to do it wirelessly.
As you guessed i know F all about computers :-[ :-[
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"2 Meg" 3G service. Upload is crucial for me as Skype is rubbish with it being so poor.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1142361730.png
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1142361730.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
Sometimes the ping is as high as 700 !!!
I can only dream of "50 Meg". You lucky blighters.
How does Spain rate in this world list of Internet quality then?. It must be down there near the bottom surely? ;D ;D
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1142631537.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
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what is the ping number what does it mean ????
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With Virgin, its really dependent on what other local users are doing. You could argue similar for some ADSL connections, but to a lesser extent.
For normal web surfing and email, maybe a bit of iPlayer etc, a standard 8Mb connection is enough for most families to be honest.
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what is the ping number what does it mean ????
Ping is usedto test the reachability of a host, it measures the round-trip time for messages sent from the originating host to a destination.
Same term used in submarines, used to measure distance
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what is the ping number what does it mean ????
It's the time it took for a particular kind of message (actually a single packet of data) to reach the target server and be replied to.
Just like the 'ping' you hear in a sumbarine from sonar sweeps in films.. Hence the name.
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is there an echo in here? :D ;D
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is there an echo in here? :D ;D
Would that be an ICMP Echo Request or Echo Response? ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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And ping is generally as much use as a used johnny smeared in dogshit when it comes to any form of performance testing.
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We currently get 5.42MB/s down and 0.97MB/s up, Ping 40mS, our ISP is BE.
It does seem quite fast downloading stuff, but as others have mentioned quite often pages take a while to download, in some cases don't finish downloading. SOmetimes stoping the transfer and reloading the page produces quick results, strange :-?
Ken
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We currently get 5.42MB/s down and 0.97MB/s up, Ping 40mS, our ISP is BE.
It does seem quite fast downloading stuff, but as others have mentioned quite often pages take a while to download, in some cases don't finish downloading. SOmetimes stoping the transfer and reloading the page produces quick results, strange :-?
Ken
What do you think of BE ?? I was looking at their "packages" combined broadband and landline ... prices seem quite competetive ... :)
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We currently get 5.42MB/s down and 0.97MB/s up, Ping 40mS, our ISP is BE.
It does seem quite fast downloading stuff, but as others have mentioned quite often pages take a while to download, in some cases don't finish downloading. SOmetimes stoping the transfer and reloading the page produces quick results, strange :-?
Ken
What do you think of BE ?? I was looking at their "packages" combined broadband and landline ... prices seem quite competetive ... :)
O2 use BeThere's infrastructure, and most people seem happy with that (DNS issues aside, and a suspect mail service). And only around £7 for ADSL2 stuff, if you have an O2 mobile phone.
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Don't have O2 .. but BE broadband + anytime landline works out at £32 a month ... I'm presently paying out £51 by the time you take calls/line rental/BB from 3 different suppliers into account.
Looking for a decent "all in one" package.
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(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1142911338.png) (http://www.speedtest.net)
im happy with mine
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they've just upped the upload speed apparently not sure of the figures though
Just as an example, Romania has an AVERAGE upload speed 10x faster than the AVERAGE UK upload speed.
Their average download speed is less than 2.5x the average UK download speed.
I haven't chosen Romania as a comparison just because they are an exception, this is true for the majority of the world.
And here I am, on the outskirts of one of the biggest citys in the UK, paying £18 per month for something that is usually around the 350-600 K/bs. And that's the best that I can get!
Pathetic really. >:(
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they've just upped the upload speed apparently not sure of the figures though
Just as an example, Romania has an AVERAGE upload speed 10x faster than the AVERAGE UK upload speed.
Their average download speed is less than 2.5x the average UK download speed.
I haven't chosen Romania as a comparison just because they are an exception, this is true for the majority of the world.
And here I am, on the outskirts of one of the biggest citys in the UK, paying £18 per month for something that is usually around the 350-600 K/bs. And that's the best that I can get!
Pathetic really. >:(
Free market economy. If companies think they can make money, they will put the infrastructure in. If nobody thinks money can be made, just be greatful that BT are prepared (not legislated ;)) to... ...then allow other ISPs to use it virtually at cost.
What solution would you suggest?