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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: PhilRich on 10 February 2011, 18:05:00
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Around 16:00hrs I was travelling behind a Luton type van on a narrow single carriageway road into the Town Centre when the traffic in front of me stopped dead both ways & stayed that way for several minutes. Must be a jam up ahead, or the lights are staying on red a bit longer than usual I thought? Next thing is a young bloke walking down the middle of the road waving a sheaf of papers at me! :o What the F...lip is he upto I thought, & my 1st instinct was to not open my window, but he looked like he needed help so I rolled it down to have the papers shoved at me & a heavy European accent (possibly Polish?) asking me 'where was this place'? After telling him he was going the wrong way & giving directions how to get to his drop off place he disappeared without so much as a smile & the traffic began moving again. It turned out this guy was driving an Artic with a flatbed full of steel box sections & he'd just stopped it in the middle of the road blocking both lanes while he ran up & down the lines of stalled traffic trying to find someone who could tell him where his drop off was! >:( But wait!....it gets better ::) about 400 yards further on the traffic all stopped again only this time several of us got out of our cars to see what was going on, and bugger me if the same guy hadn't just swung his tractor across the junction @ the lights, forcing everyone to a halt while he did a THREE POINT TURN!! :o It was a bit comical seeing everyone stopped at all the sets of lights trying to back up out of his way, but Jees, you had to be there to half believe your own eyes! Best part was he was driving a British wagon! :-/
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effing idiot!!!!!!
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Not much worse than the delivery wagon needing all the road to reverse onto the forcourt of our local Tesco and so just swung across in front of me to use my side of the road. Arrogant tw@!!!
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He sounds puddled to me phil. Must admit i have had a similar experience with a foreign lorry who just stopped dead on a motorway island on a green light and got out his cab to ask for directions. Lights turned Red then green then red again before he finally finished messing about. :-X
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Not much worse than the delivery wagon needing all the road to reverse onto the forcourt of our local Tesco and so just swung across in front of me to use my side of the road. Arrogant tw@!!!
Yep, Same on my commute. Tescos with the same problem and a huge Morrisons where there is no loading bay to speak of so the HGVs have to sit blocking the road before some pond life in the store opens the gates. >:(
Huge site. They could have made provision for a proper facility without inconveniencing road users but no.. They probably went for another aisle of manky TV dinners instead. >:(
Kevin
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Im getting the impression you have your angry head on tonight Kevin ? :D ;D
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This is why i would'nt want to drive abroard. I only speak english so could'nt read the road signs or ask for directions, i don't use sat nav & i know how much foriegn drivers are hated & made to wait to get tipped over here.
I see it all the time. No thanks. :(
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
That's a point :) will foreign drivers be subject to this new CPC that is going to prevent the likes of H21 and Myself keeping our HGV / PSV licences.... >:( >:(
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
That's a point :) will foreign drivers be subject to this new CPC that is going to prevent the likes of H21 and Myself keeping our HGV / PSV licences.... >:( >:(
Whats this then Vamps??????????????????????????????????? :-[
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
That's a point :) will foreign drivers be subject to this new CPC that is going to prevent the likes of H21 and Myself keeping our HGV / PSV licences.... >:( >:(
Dont be silly Vamps, that would be racist/anti EU/ little Englander mentality blah blah....... ;) ::) :)
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
That's a point :) will foreign drivers be subject to this new CPC that is going to prevent the likes of H21 and Myself keeping our HGV / PSV licences.... >:( >:(
Whats this then Vamps??????????????????????????????????? :-[
We briefly chatted about this a week or so again, I understand that there is a new CPC course that is 40 of training, without this you will not be able to drive HGV and PSV, the latter I was told about by the Local Council Transport Manager; so those of us not employed, as drivers, will not be able to renew our licences...... :( >:( >:( >:(
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
That's a point :) will foreign drivers be subject to this new CPC that is going to prevent the likes of H21 and Myself keeping our HGV / PSV licences.... >:( >:(
And me ::) ::)
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Pure madness... Before you allow anybody to drive any sort of HGV on the UK roads they should have to undergo a competance test.. regardless of where they are from
That's a point :) will foreign drivers be subject to this new CPC that is going to prevent the likes of H21 and Myself keeping our HGV / PSV licences.... >:( >:(
And me ::) ::)
:-[ Sorry........................... and LD.... :D :D
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Further research .. which is still ongoing .. which is why I haven't printed it ... implies ....
That the CPC is ONLY needed if driving "PROFESSIONALLY" .. ie .. being paid , or "for reward".
You do NOT need the CPC to renew your licence (it would appear)... but you can then only drive if not being rewarded. So folks with their own horses/horse boxes; folks with their own fire engines .. etc etc etc will still be able to drive them, and if you have renewed your licence so can you .. as long as it is for "free". It would also seem that if you are a "volunteer" driver eg. for a charity, you don't neeed the CPC.
It only applies to those who are "driving for reward" ie .. paid.
As said .. still not 100% on any of that .. but I believe it is fairly near the truth.
I won't be renewing either my LGV or PSV ... just not worth it..... no company will pay for a 60+ to do the CPC for a part time drivers job .. and theres no way I'm working full time !!!
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Further research .. which is still ongoing .. which is why I haven't printed it ... implies ....
That the CPC is ONLY needed if driving "PROFESSIONALLY" .. ie .. being paid , or "for reward".
You do NOT need the CPC to renew your licence (it would appear)... but you can then only drive if not being rewarded. So folks with their own horses/horse boxes; folks with their own fire engines .. etc etc etc will still be able to drive them, and if you have renewed your licence so can you .. as long as it is for "free". It would also seem that if you are a "volunteer" driver eg. for a charity, you don't neeed the CPC.
It only applies to those who are "driving for reward" ie .. paid.
As said .. still not 100% on any of that .. but I believe it is fairly near the truth.
I won't be renewing either my LGV or PSV ... just not worth it..... no company will pay for a 60+ to do the CPC for a part time drivers job .. and theres no way I'm working full time !!!
That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
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That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
That was my intention too .. but without the CPC you can't do agency work , and the CPC takes about 35 hours I believe .. so you either pay for the CPC and possibly never use it ... or you don't have one and can't get work until you take it..... which way to go ??
The CPC will cost around £300 ... by the time VAT etc are added...
5 days of 7 hours ...
http://www.driverscpc.org/portal/alias__driverscpc/lang__en/tabid__2281/default.aspx
and you have to do it every 5 years ....
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That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
That was my intention too .. but without the CPC you can't do agency work , and the CPC takes about 35 hours I believe .. so you either pay for the CPC and possibly never use it ... or you don't have one and can't get work until you take it..... which way to go ??
My thinking... Been employed by the current employer more than 2 years so would get a redundancy package so use that to fund the CPC if it comes to it :y
Thankfully I've got a few years grace to make the decision ;) ;)
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That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
That was my intention too .. but without the CPC you can't do agency work , and the CPC takes about 35 hours I believe .. so you either pay for the CPC and possibly never use it ... or you don't have one and can't get work until you take it..... which way to go ??
The CPC will cost around £300 ... by the time VAT etc are added...
5 days of 7 hours ...
http://www.driverscpc.org/portal/alias__driverscpc/lang__en/tabid__2281/default.aspx
and you have to do it every 5 years ....
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They've got a site just down the road from me :y
At least those of us with the entitlement already only have to do the Periodical Training :y
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That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
That was my intention too .. but without the CPC you can't do agency work , and the CPC takes about 35 hours I believe .. so you either pay for the CPC and possibly never use it ... or you don't have one and can't get work until you take it..... which way to go ??
The CPC will cost around £300 ... by the time VAT etc are added...
5 days of 7 hours ...
http://www.driverscpc.org/portal/alias__driverscpc/lang__en/tabid__2281/default.aspx
and you have to do it every 5 years ....
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Sorry E, i may have been misleading :-[...agency work would be in my current profession, very high demand for workers, HGV/PSV is as has always been a fall back plan and also part of my retirement plan..... :(
I might make some enquiries on the CPC, I believe my employers may be running some ongoing training, not sure how I would justify getting on the training course though given my role, might have to get creative... :D :D Need a chat with the Transport Manager, see what she says..... :y
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That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
That was my intention too .. but without the CPC you can't do agency work , and the CPC takes about 35 hours I believe .. so you either pay for the CPC and possibly never use it ... or you don't have one and can't get work until you take it..... which way to go ??
The CPC will cost around £300 ... by the time VAT etc are added...
5 days of 7 hours ...
http://www.driverscpc.org/portal/alias__driverscpc/lang__en/tabid__2281/default.aspx
and you have to do it every 5 years ....
:(
They've got a site just down the road from me :y
At least those of us with the entitlement already only have to do the Periodical Training :y
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Where is that? sounds interesting..... :)
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Luckily my "training" is ongoing through work.
Those of you who hav'nt driven for a while but may need to one day don't forget your digi card. Guy.
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Luckily my "training" is ongoing through work.
Those of you who hav'nt driven for a while but may need to one day don't forget your digi card. Guy.
Guy, other than your comments I have never heard of this.... ::)
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Not much worse than the delivery wagon needing all the road to reverse onto the forcourt of our local Tesco and so just swung across in front of me to use my side of the road. Arrogant tw@!!!
Obviously i can,t comment on your experience there Andy there are good and bad in every walks of life and as you say this driver may well have been arrogant,but in my experience which is over 20yrs of driving all over the UK and Western Europe there is a distinct lack of knowledge in the UK as to how much room a manouvering HGV requires,trouble is nowadays everyone is in such a rush and must get past the slow lorry at any cost,i drive a maximum length and weight artic and have delivered into central Paris and the Portugese countryside which couldn,t be more different from each other but have always been given more consideration when in mainland Europe,i try my best not to cause an inconvenience to other road users,after all i drive a car as well,i know if you listen to some HGV drivers you would think they drove their trucks all the time and didn,t own cars,Happy Motoring :y
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Not much worse than the delivery wagon needing all the road to reverse onto the forcourt of our local Tesco and so just swung across in front of me to use my side of the road. Arrogant tw@!!!
Obviously i can,t comment on your experience there Andy there are good and bad in every walks of life and as you say this driver may well have been arrogant,but in my experience which is over 20yrs of driving all over the UK and Western Europe there is a distinct lack of knowledge in the UK as to how much room a manouvering HGV requires,trouble is nowadays everyone is in such a rush and must get past the slow lorry at any cost,i drive a maximum length and weight artic and have delivered into central Paris and the Portugese countryside which couldn,t be more different from each other but have always been given more consideration when in mainland Europe,i try my best not to cause an inconvenience to other road users,after all i drive a car as well,i know if you listen to some HGV drivers you would think they drove their trucks all the time and didn,t own cars,Happy Motoring :y
I agree they need more room, (not quite the same I know, but there are times when I need more room to manouver whne I'm towing) and & there are various places where I know they need all the road to pull out & I give them loads of room to do so. But this Rob Wiseman driver wanted to reverse back to the shops on his left so pulled over to his right to give himself room ..... right infront of me driving the opposite direction. No indication, just f*** you I'm bigger than you, so you can stop hard for me!
R Wiseman recieved an email that day ...... >:(
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That's very interesting, thanks E.... :y :y
I will renew next time, in these troubled times, even my Job is not 100% safe, though I would expect to be able to gain agency work instantly, HGV/PSV, in particular, have always been an emergency fall back plan...... :)
That was my intention too .. but without the CPC you can't do agency work , and the CPC takes about 35 hours I believe .. so you either pay for the CPC and possibly never use it ... or you don't have one and can't get work until you take it..... which way to go ??
The CPC will cost around £300 ... by the time VAT etc are added...
5 days of 7 hours ...
http://www.driverscpc.org/portal/alias__driverscpc/lang__en/tabid__2281/default.aspx
and you have to do it every 5 years ....
:(
They've got a site just down the road from me :y
At least those of us with the entitlement already only have to do the Periodical Training :y
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Where is that? sounds interesting..... :)
In Entwood's Link... Existing entitlement holders only need to do the "Periodical" Training ;)