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Title: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 13:40:03
Yep here we go.............today the price of crude oil on world markets hit a 30 month high....................warnings that supplies could be hit if the troubles escalate!! ::) ::) ::)

I hope this doesn't develop into a full 1973 type oil crisis.  If it does the price of a litre will almost be immaterial as we desparately queue up in the hope of a limited amount of fuel.............yes, that's what we did then............and the future of the Bahrain GP........sorry Banjax..........will be the least of our worries! :P :P :P :P :P

Let us all pray this all blows over quickly ;) ;)
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 13:58:36
Found this great site:

Just look at the price of Light Sweet Crude Oil graph and how the traders are predicting the cost for May 2011 onwards! :o :o

http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=commodities&adw=99012&gclid=CNvO3vztkacCFcgf4QodLDD4bw
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Banjax on 18 February 2011, 14:29:33
judging by the shedload of crowd control gear they've just bought off us (UK) I reckon the Bahrain "government" expect this to end quickly, one way or the other......and I think its a good thing that countries like Bahrain, feted by the west's big business, celebrities, sporting events, concerts etc should be held to account over its human rights - as Egypt showed, people in the West are waking up to the despots and tyrants we befriend and theres a growing and belated feeling of unease. the media circus of F1 can perhaps throw a spotlight on the injustice instead of showing us endless shots of the shiny, expensive facilities?  :o
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Varche on 18 February 2011, 14:37:42
Personally I feel it won't just blow over quickly.

Power of the Internet and mobile phone comms as well as good old fashioned TV make it easy for the drones to revolt quite rightly in my view. Many have seen little or none of the wealth from state resources in any form.

In years to come we will look back on this time as the era when despotic regimes supported by their oil hungry Western "allies" got their come uppance.

The time to really worry is when Libya and then Saudi Arabia fall. Then the price of oil will be high as opposed to just jacked up by a bunch of cowboys working as commodity dealers gamblers lining their own and their masters pockets at our expense. (crude fell in Jan but the price didn't go down 2.5p/l)

I wonder if another Grand Prix venue is gearing up for a pre season Bahrain cancellation "event"? Like it or not F1 is an enormous business.  :y
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Varche on 18 February 2011, 14:40:32
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judging by the shedload of crowd control gear they've just bought off us (UK) I reckon the Bahrain "government" expect this to end quickly, one way or the other......and I think its a good thing that countries like Bahrain, feted by the west's big business, celebrities, sporting events, concerts etc should be held to account over its human rights - as Egypt showed, people in the West are waking up to the despots and tyrants we befriend and theres a growing and belated feeling of unease. the media circus of F1 can perhaps throw a spotlight on the injustice instead of showing us endless shots of the shiny, expensive facilities?  :o

ROFL. Shhh we aren't supposed to talk about that sort of thing. Doesn't go with our image. What next mines?
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 14:41:42
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judging by the shedload of crowd control gear they've just bought off us (UK) I reckon the Bahrain "government" expect this to end quickly, one way or the other......and I think its a good thing that countries like Bahrain, feted by the west's big business, celebrities, sporting events, concerts etc should be held to account over its human rights - as Egypt showed, people in the West are waking up to the despots and tyrants we befriend and theres a growing and belated feeling of unease. the media circus of F1 can perhaps throw a spotlight on the injustice instead of showing us endless shots of the shiny, expensive facilities?  :o


I could not agree more BJ :y :y :y :y

The trouble is in international politics you often have to befriend those in other times you would not wish to, but for balance of power, and a guarantee to future business with trading in commodities, in the region we in the west do, as in the case of Egypt.  Only when the political relationship proves to be dangerous to the west's aspirations in the region as a whole do we change our allegiances.  It has been going on for centuries, and I cannot see a way of avoiding it. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Kevin Wood on 18 February 2011, 16:18:25
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Found this great site:

Just look at the price of Light Sweet Crude Oil graph and how the traders are predicting the cost for May 2011 onwards! :o :o

http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=commodities&adw=99012&gclid=CNvO3vztkacCFcgf4QodLDD4bw

Hmm. Time to start stockpiling Calor gas? :-X

 ;)

Kevin
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 18:13:24
Well after listening to the 1800 news, it is clear the spread of democratically charged demonstrations is spreading across the Middle East, and growing!

Tunisia, Kuwait, North Iraq, and Bahrain, are all in a state of unrest following the democratic revolution in Egypt. Apparently Saudi Arabia is now also showing signs of discontentment.

All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere. ;)
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 February 2011, 18:28:43
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Well after listening to the 1800 news, it is clear the spread of democratically charged demonstrations is spreading across the Middle East, and growing!

Tunisia, Kuwait, North Iraq, and Bahrain, are all in a state of unrest following the democratic revolution in Egypt. Apparently Saudi Arabia is now also showing signs of discontentment.

All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere. ;)

 ;D Lizzie, do you really think thats possible  ? ;D :y
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Varche on 18 February 2011, 18:30:03
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Well after listening to the 1800 news, it is clear the spread of democratically charged demonstrations is spreading across the Middle East, and growing!

Tunisia, Kuwait, North Iraq, and Bahrain, are all in a state of unrest following the democratic revolution in Egypt. Apparently Saudi Arabia is now also showing signs of discontentment.

All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere. ;)

Some hope. As we speak hundreds and hundreds of US foreign spies agents are doing their stuff. Reporting back on the situation, manipulating info where they can, pushing for certain outcomes. No doubt our guys will be doing the same too. Back rooms will be filled with what if excercises e.g. How can we keep the Suez canal open? I bet the Americans are already mobilising their fleet for the Gulf under a thinly disguised "been planned for ages joint ops" exercise with an unlikely partner.
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 18:32:27
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Well after listening to the 1800 news, it is clear the spread of democratically charged demonstrations is spreading across the Middle East, and growing!

Tunisia, Kuwait, North Iraq, and Bahrain, are all in a state of unrest following the democratic revolution in Egypt. Apparently Saudi Arabia is now also showing signs of discontentment.

All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere. ;)

 ;D Lizzie, do you really think thats possible  ? ;D :y


Honestly Cem?  NO!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

The West (USA, Britain) will want to 'mould' events to their advantage, which historically means we will make things worse!! :o :o :o ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 February 2011, 18:32:37
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Well after listening to the 1800 news, it is clear the spread of democratically charged demonstrations is spreading across the Middle East, and growing!

Tunisia, Kuwait, North Iraq, and Bahrain, are all in a state of unrest following the democratic revolution in Egypt. Apparently Saudi Arabia is now also showing signs of discontentment.

All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere. ;)

Some hope. As we speak hundreds and hundreds of US foreign spies agents are doing their stuff. Reporting back on the situation, manipulating info where they can, pushing for certain outcomes. No doubt our guys will be doing the same too. Back rooms will be filled with what if excercises e.g. How can we keep the Suez canal open? I bet the Americans are already mobilising their fleet for the Gulf under a thinly disguised "been planned for ages joint ops" exercise with an unlikely partner.

imo you are very close to truth..
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 18:36:24
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Well after listening to the 1800 news, it is clear the spread of democratically charged demonstrations is spreading across the Middle East, and growing!

Tunisia, Kuwait, North Iraq, and Bahrain, are all in a state of unrest following the democratic revolution in Egypt. Apparently Saudi Arabia is now also showing signs of discontentment.

All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere. ;)

Some hope. As we speak hundreds and hundreds of US foreign spies agents are doing their stuff. Reporting back on the situation, manipulating info where they can, pushing for certain outcomes. No doubt our guys will be doing the same too. Back rooms will be filled with what if excercises e.g. How can we keep the Suez canal open? I bet the Americans are already mobilising their fleet for the Gulf under a thinly disguised "been planned for ages joint ops" exercise with an unlikely partner.

The USA Gulf Battle Fleet has been hovering for ages and will be added to without doubt!

Yes Varche I said "All the West can do, hopefully, and watch, listen, but never interfere", but I know in my educated heart that is not possible.  Balance of power dictates in the interests of Western needs will rule unfortunately, and can only make a bad situation worse! ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 18:45:20
.................and of course the USA Navy Fifth Fleet has a large base in Bahrain!! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 18 February 2011, 18:53:20
humanity,  one day will understand that on a world with limited resources we cant solve problems by "eating" others .. there are very different civilised ways .. but for now , it seems , will continue.. :-/
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Banjax on 18 February 2011, 18:55:19
add Libya to that list Liz - its kicking off there too  :o
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 18 February 2011, 19:11:46
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add Libya to that list Liz - its kicking off there too  :o


Thanks BJ, yes it is! :y :y
Title: Re: Bahrain and general Middle East troubles
Post by: omegabsw on 18 February 2011, 22:08:05
I think the West, The USA in particular is not going to come out of all this unrest very well at all.

Take Egypt, any new goverment that gets bought in is not going to be pro America at all.
Therefore the USA grooming Hosni Mubarak for the last god knows how many years and supplying Egypt with tanks, weapons and military vehicles will have been a waste of time in their eyes.