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Title: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 27 May 2007, 09:50:46
Comments welcomed here please.
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Admin on 27 May 2007, 09:54:23
Aerosol spraying?

You become a grafitti artist AA?  ;D

Post up some pics of your work!
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: MikeDundee on 27 May 2007, 09:59:21
Is this Legal? ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 27 May 2007, 10:04:50
Just thought it looked useful :(
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: meegaveesix on 27 May 2007, 10:08:53
Thanks for adding that AA, I'll put it into practice on the rear wing and let you know how it goes  :y
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: MikeDundee on 27 May 2007, 10:38:03
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Just thought it looked useful :(

Only joking AA useful addition for folks like me anyway :y
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Markjay on 27 May 2007, 10:42:08
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Just thought it looked useful :(

It is... very.... I have a few minor dents and scratches and have been considering a DIY spray job (I already have the original Vx spray cans), the other option being Halfords' quick panel repair service. The only thing stopping me so far was that is seemed futile - central London is a jungle and the car keeps getting new scratches from time to time.  :(

OK, reading it back, the car does not actually look like its been in a demolition derby, but it is not what you might call 'unmarked'...  ;D

Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 27 May 2007, 12:18:32
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Just thought it looked useful :(

It is... very.... I have a few minor dents and scratches and have been considering a DIY spray job (I already have the original Vx spray cans), the other option being Halfords' quick panel repair service. The only thing stopping me so far was that is seemed futile - central London is a jungle and the car keeps getting new scratches from time to time.  :(

OK, reading it back, the car does not actually look like its been in a demolition derby, but it is not what you might call 'unmarked'...  ;D


Log onto this :- http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/how-articles/20047-dent-ding-repair-advice.html

and to this :- http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/how-articles/18808-paint-reconditioning-swirl-scratch-stonechip-repairs.html

and there's also this :- http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/how-articles/19387-upholstery-repairs-leather-cloth-vinyl.html

Not sure whether I should 'pinch' them and post them on here.
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Markjay on 27 May 2007, 16:10:55
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Just thought it looked useful :(

It is... very.... I have a few minor dents and scratches and have been considering a DIY spray job (I already have the original Vx spray cans), the other option being Halfords' quick panel repair service. The only thing stopping me so far was that is seemed futile - central London is a jungle and the car keeps getting new scratches from time to time.  :(

OK, reading it back, the car does not actually look like its been in a demolition derby, but it is not what you might call 'unmarked'...  ;D


Log onto this :- http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/how-articles/20047-dent-ding-repair-advice.html

and to this :- http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/how-articles/18808-paint-reconditioning-swirl-scratch-stonechip-repairs.html

and there's also this :- http://www.renaultforums.co.uk/how-articles/19387-upholstery-repairs-leather-cloth-vinyl.html

Not sure whether I should 'pinch' them and post them on here.

Thanks... very interesting reading.
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Omegatoy on 27 May 2007, 19:36:41
Just looked at eh guide and its prety good!! however the one bit i take issue with is the add a little fairy liquid!! ye gods its full of salt!!! >:(
when flatting with wet and dry, yes its a good idea to add a little lubricant but not fairy liquid!! in the workshop we use a bar of soap with no additives or pefumes!! dove is a good one but i very much woulddt use fairy liquid, this is just my personal preference and have been spraypainting for years
others may disagree but its what ive always used and had no problems!! :y
Omegatoy
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 27 May 2007, 19:47:10
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Just looked at eh guide and its prety good!! however the one bit i take issue with is the add a little fairy liquid!! ye gods its full of salt!!! >:(
when flatting with wet and dry, yes its a good idea to add a little lubricant but not fairy liquid!! in the workshop we use a bar of soap with no additives or pefumes!! dove is a good one but i very much woulddt use fairy liquid, this is just my personal preference and have been spraypainting for years
others may disagree but its what ive always used and had no problems!! :y
Omegatoy

I'll modify it to say dove :y
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 27 May 2007, 20:11:17
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Just looked at eh guide and its prety good!! however the one bit i take issue with is the add a little fairy liquid!! ye gods its full of salt!!! >:(
when flatting with wet and dry, yes its a good idea to add a little lubricant but not fairy liquid!! in the workshop we use a bar of soap with no additives or pefumes!! dove is a good one but i very much woulddt use fairy liquid, this is just my personal preference and have been spraypainting for years
others may disagree but its what ive always used and had no problems!! :y
Omegatoy

I thought it was good too.......but i wasnt sure about the 'orange peel' effect?  :-/

Do you need to do that if metallic paint and you have access to an oven for drying?
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Omegatoy on 27 May 2007, 20:25:07
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Just looked at eh guide and its prety good!! however the one bit i take issue with is the add a little fairy liquid!! ye gods its full of salt!!! >:(
when flatting with wet and dry, yes its a good idea to add a little lubricant but not fairy liquid!! in the workshop we use a bar of soap with no additives or pefumes!! dove is a good one but i very much woulddt use fairy liquid, this is just my personal preference and have been spraypainting for years
others may disagree but its what ive always used and had no problems!! :y
Omegatoy

I thought it was good too.......but i wasnt sure about the 'orange peel' effect?  :-/

Do you need to do that if metallic paint and you have access to an oven for drying?

lo TD orange peel is usually caused by putting to much paint or to high a pressure or trying to force dry it, nowadays it shouldnt really happen but sadly owing to the rush rush world, we now live in it does!!
the orange peel effect will be only in the laquer which is easily flatted out usin fine grade wet and dry and soap the  a good compound cut and polish
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 27 May 2007, 20:48:09
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Just looked at eh guide and its prety good!! however the one bit i take issue with is the add a little fairy liquid!! ye gods its full of salt!!! >:(
when flatting with wet and dry, yes its a good idea to add a little lubricant but not fairy liquid!! in the workshop we use a bar of soap with no additives or pefumes!! dove is a good one but i very much woulddt use fairy liquid, this is just my personal preference and have been spraypainting for years
others may disagree but its what ive always used and had no problems!! :y
Omegatoy

I thought it was good too.......but i wasnt sure about the 'orange peel' effect?  :-/

Do you need to do that if metallic paint and you have access to an oven for drying?

lo TD orange peel is usually caused by putting to much paint or to high a pressure or trying to force dry it, nowadays it shouldnt really happen but sadly owing to the rush rush world, we now live in it does!!
the orange peel effect will be only in the laquer which is easily flatted out usin fine grade wet and dry and soap the  a good compound cut and polish

Ah rite cheers  :y

My local paintshop didnt cut too many corners then  ;)

Coz they didnt do that bit..and the reason i want sure about it...on my veccyB they took a crease outa the rear bumper....by heating and reforming it....and took a crease outa the rear door (estate) ....they may have filled that....not sure  :-/

I asked them to 'bodge' it.....as no point in an A1 paint job on a taxi.....you carnt see the repair unless you look at the right place....and no 'orange peel' effect......they had the veccy a day.....when i went to pick it up it was a tad warm  ;D Think it had been in the oven at gas mark6 trying to dry it...... ;D

Did get told dont go putting yer fingers on the paintwork for the next few hours coz the fingerprints will stay there.....but that was my choice in taking the car back...

£150 i reckon was a bargain  ;) For the numpty driver (not me) reversing into a post quite hard!
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 28 May 2007, 08:11:49
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Just looked at eh guide and its prety good!! however the one bit i take issue with is the add a little fairy liquid!! ye gods its full of salt!!! >:(Omegatoy

What about Stardrops?

STARDROPS contains the following ingredients:-
Water (Aqua)
Sodium dodecylbenzene sulphonate
Alkyl ether sulphate
Alcohols C9-11 ethoxylated
Bitrex (Denatonium benzoate) solution
Perfume
Limonene (Dipentene)
Bronopol (2-bromo-2-nitropropane-1,3-diol)
Colour
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 28 May 2007, 08:33:55
Sodium dodecylbenzene sulphonate

Silly me, that's salt :-?
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 28 May 2007, 12:35:00
Mind you, virtually everything has got salt in it, Stardrops contains far less salt than Fairy Liquid!
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 28 May 2007, 16:33:02
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Sodium dodecylbenzene sulphonate Silly me, that's salt :-?

I wouldnt go putting that on your fish and chips tho AA  ;)

It might melt them  ;D
Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Auto Addict on 28 May 2007, 16:53:01
Just looked up Dove soap, that contains salt as well.

Seems like every soap contains salt, and I would guess that every car shampoo also contains salt.

Diluted, I can't really see that it matters.

Some products used neat, if they contain a high degree of salt could, I suppose, have a harmfull effect on paintwork.

I have washed my car with Stardrops, with no harmfull effects, but I wouldn't wash it with Fairy Liquid.

Stardrops, on the label, says use for car washing, and I must admit, because I don't like Wash & Wax products, it gives me a streak/smear free finish.

......and it's cheap, I buy it from the Pound Shop, although someone said you can get it for 50p from Wilkinsons.

My Dad, bless him, always used Stardrops, and never had a problem with his cars.

I think Stardrops should advertise more in the car mags.

Title: Re: New Maintenance Guide - Aerosol Spraying
Post by: Omegatoy on 28 May 2007, 19:44:55
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Just looked up Dove soap, that contains salt as well.

Seems like every soap contains salt, and I would guess that every car shampoo also contains salt.

Diluted, I can't really see that it matters.

Some products used neat, if they contain a high degree of salt could, I suppose, have a harmfull effect on paintwork.

I have washed my car with Stardrops, with no harmfull effects, but I wouldn't wash it with Fairy Liquid.

Stardrops, on the label, says use for car washing, and I must admit, because I don't like Wash & Wax products, it gives me a streak/smear free finish.

......and it's cheap, I buy it from the Pound Shop, although someone said you can get it for 50p from Wilkinsons.

My Dad, bless him, always used Stardrops, and never had a problem with his cars.

I think Stardrops should advertise more in the car mags.


never heard of it mate but the least salt the better!!! :y